the life span on these tires is about 20,000k right? Would I have been better off getting the s03s?

 

Not really. My S02's rears lasted 8k, My S03's actually about the same. Got to sacrifice tread wear for traction.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by revhi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not really. My S02's rears lasted 8k, My S03's actually about the same. Got to sacrifice tread wear for traction.</TD></TR></TABLE>

glad i bought a lifetime mounting and balancing program at my tire installer

oh **** ur from jersey and also have a Spa s2k

 

About 12-15k if you're easy on them.

 

But when you get up to 12 to 15k even though your easy on them, they are dangerously worn down. Everyone knows how tail happy the car is.

 

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i have a bit of a camber problem. two inches of my SO2s are bald. they still grip decent tho :D

 

get an alignment so you don't get that camber wear

 

I think some guy on s2ki got 30k out of his S02's by flipping the tires. I'd hate to go through that hassle, but if that's worth it for you--just another option.

 

the car is very tail happy...the most i got on some s02's was about 12 months with some easy and hard driving...the grip is great but the tread wear sux!!! i guess u gotta pay to play

 

Do what nisant said and replace them. It makes a big difference handling with that type of wear; especially at high speed turns!

 

If it's too tail happy, go from toe-out in the rear to something more neutral, or go more toe-in.

If it's really tail happy, play with toe and camber. Alignments can make for a very different experience while driving.

 

pssst ... no toe in the rear

 

Yes there is. From the factory (at least for the '00 and '01), the rear came with toe out....some of them more serious than others.

One of the first "mods" I did to my car was to bring toe back to neutral.

 

....taking a quote from the King site regarding Mugen's technical documentation of toe:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Front and rear toe alignment.
The front and rear toe alignment, along with the ground clearance adjustment, is a very effective method to change the car’s handling characteristic. For an example, the standard toe-in angle of a base car is 6mm. However, if the angle were adjusted to 6mm, 8mm and 10mm, the rear end behavior will become more stable by taking foot off the accelerator as the car enters a turning corner. As a general tendency, when the toe-in is increased, it tends to become under steer and when decreased, it tends to become over steer. For those having a hard time with under steer on the mini-circuit or gymkhana, downward adjustment from 6mm to 4mm and to 2mm may be very effective</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Mugen's right, always right . Factory specs for AP1 says 6mm +/- 2mm. AP2 says 3.7mm +/- 2mm, which means I could run 2mm of toe and get away with it.

 

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You seemed to notice that, huh? :D

The 2000 model year S2000's came with some real effed up toe-out. Everyone that was on the original S2000online.com site was tuned into it, and had their rear toe redone to their liking.

I originally went to 0 toe, then off to toe in, then to a Mugen rear sway bar with some toe-out. It's been ever so slightly toe-out, with 0 camber ever since.

BTW, on one set of S02's, I got close to 35k miles out of them. There was a left to right and right to left swap about halfway, but I did get 35k miles out of them.


Modified by Luder94 at 3:54 PM 3/30/2006

 

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i have a bit of a camber problem. two inches of my SO2s are bald. they still grip decent tho :D</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats not a camber problem. its an alignment/toe problem.

 

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thats not a camber problem. its an alignment/toe problem.
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That's just semantics. If a car is lowered, both toe and camber have to be adjusted.

 

not semantics.

toe wears tires unevenly.

camber doesnt.

(unless youre burning out or braking hard constantly)


Modified by Tyson at 12:15 AM 4/2/2006

 

my stocks have 19k miles and I plan to get another 4-5k out of them. But the only time I allow my rears to spin is shifting to 2nd

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not semantics.

toe wears tires unevenly.

camber doesnt.

(unless youre burning out or braking hard constantly)


Modified by Tyson at 12:15 AM 4/2/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

camber can cause uneven wear, all depends on how much camber. i was running -3.0 in the rear for awhile with 0 toe. It was track set up. After street driving like that for month or so, I saw uneven wear and immediately went to my normal street camber (-1.5)