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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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Default Engine ran dry of oil - exhaust cam won't turn.

The seal on the oil filter of my Laser blew out & the engine ran dry of oil. I began to prepare for an engine swap thinking that I had seized a piston or two along with who-knows-what-other damage, but when I removed the timing belt, the crank turns freely as if there is nothing wrong. The intake cam also turns without a problem, but the exhaust cam doesn't move. I figure this means that I bent an exhaust valve or two. I also figure that I didn't seize any pistons being that the crank spins, but I'm new to ruining engines, so let me know if I'm wrong on either case. If I'm on-point here, then I should just need a few new exhaust valves & seals correct? Experienced input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!


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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Engine ran dry of oil - exhaust cam won't turn. (94gsr)

sounds like the echaust cam might have seized in the head?

even if you can free it up there is probably lots of wear/damage inside the engine that you cant see........your best bet would be to change the engine.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 06:19 PM
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Default Re: Engine ran dry of oil - exhaust cam won't turn. (non-VTEC)

your best bet would be to change the engine.
Perhaps a new head, but I can't see replacing the whole engine if the crank still spins & there's no visible damage to the pistons or cylinders when I pull the head. Are you saying that there may be some bottom-end damage even though the crank still spins freely? If so, what exactly are you referring to?
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 06:23 PM
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Default Re: Engine ran dry of oil - exhaust cam won't turn. (94gsr)

the bearings ran dry from oil so they might be scored. it might start up and run for a bit but might eventually begin to knock........

you might get lucky and just need a new head and it might run fine. but is the car worth that much to you?
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 06:45 PM
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Default Re: Engine ran dry of oil - exhaust cam won't turn. (non-VTEC)

I was afraid you might say that.

The only thing that I think is working in my favor is that I didn't drive it for more than a block after the seal blew. By the oil on the street, the seal blew at the begining of the street block, right when I pulled away from the stop sign. The car died at the end of that block. When I drained the remaining oil, there was almost 2 quarts left, so hopefully, whatever happened to the exhaust stopped everything before any other damage occured... guess I'll find out tomorrow!

Thanks for the info.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 06:54 PM
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Default Re: Engine ran dry of oil - exhaust cam won't turn. (94gsr)

the bottom end would have run dry last, after the head was dry, i guess,

hence the bad camshaft, if it was only a short time, i reckon you will be OK, provided you have keep it clean and good upto this unfortunate point...

good luck,

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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 09:58 AM
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The cam was seized to the one cam holder. I grinded all the excess aluminum away, smoothed everything out & redrilled the oil hole. I oiled everything up & temporarily reinstalled the cam to see if it'll turn with a ratchet. It does spin, but not quite as easily as the intake cam does. Is this normal, or do I have a slightly bent valve or two?
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 01:50 PM
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hmmm, a valve may have been damaged if the camshaft stoped moving...

see if all the valve stems are resting on the cam lobes/can move freely...look/feel for restriction of movement of the valves...

sorry to say, your next move should probably be to remove the head

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