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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 03:36 AM
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i have a 94 prelude si and when i got my car (around a year ago) the sunroof was fine but as time went on rust started to come through. It start to bubble up around the corners, i have my car redone (body work and paint job) and it was fine for a few months then the rust started to come back, but worse.

so i figure that its just going to come back again if i fix it...so instead of getting a new sunroof and having it repainted, i was wondering if they made the glass sunroof/moon roof for the bb4's or are they all solid?

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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 03:48 AM
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i dont think they ever made a glass one for bb4's. However i have seen some people retrofit a glass sunroof/moonroof from a 5th gen into a 4th gen and i think it looks really good.

edit: here ya go http://superhonda.com/forum/sh...13452
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 03:56 AM
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thanx man...but that seems like more fo a hassel then just getting a regular sunrrof and having it repainted.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 08:08 AM
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i did the glass sunroof conversion a couple of months ago and i got to say that i would never go back to the stock metal panel sunroof. The conversion isn't too difficult, plus it looks alot cleaner and you won't have to worry about it rusting later on.
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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 10:16 AM
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Yeah my rust is getting out of control on my sunroof too so I am planning on swapping in a glass roof. I know the 5th gen roof fits, but does anyone know if any Integra roofs are the same size and will fit?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 02:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jos3ph &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i did the glass sunroof conversion a couple of months ago and i got to say that i would never go back to the stock metal panel sunroof. The conversion isn't too difficult, plus it looks alot cleaner and you won't have to worry about it rusting later on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah i know, it looks so much better. when you did it did you follow that forum syntax posted or did u you find another or did you figure it out your self?
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 03:52 AM
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does anyone know where i can get the just the glass part for pretty cheap?!

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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 03:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i_heart_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone know where i can get the just the glass part for pretty cheap?!

bump.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you can post in the WTB thread and maybe someone is parting out a totaled 5th gen. or call around to local junkyards.
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by syntax420 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you can post in the WTB thread and maybe someone is parting out a totaled 5th gen. or call around to local junkyards.</TD></TR></TABLE>

true...
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Old Mar 30, 2006 | 06:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i_heart_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yeah i know, it looks so much better. when you did it did you follow that forum syntax posted or did u you find another or did you figure it out your self?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I followed most of the directions from the forum syntax posted but i also shimmed the sunroof assembly as well.

If you have already taken the 4G metal panel out, you will know that the sunroof/panel/rail assembly is bolted to the interior of the roof from the inside. When you open the sunroof, the metal panel protrudes up and outward (out of the hole) and back.

When you replace the metal panel with the glass one, you will notice that the glass is thicker than the metal. Therefore, when the sunroof is in the closed position, it will protrude up out of the sunroof hole.

Because of the thicker plug, you will need to make it so that the whole sunroof assembly sits in effect lower than normal. To do this, you will need to use washers, etc, BETWEEN the inner roof and the assembly itself.

Here is a picture to show what i'm talking about.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 03:33 AM
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thanks...what size/how many washers did you use?
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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i'm not sure what size washers i used but i know i put about 4 washers in each location. I first started with 2 and then checked how much the sunroof still petruded and then i estimated about 2 more washers to make the sunroof flush with the roof. the amount of washers needed may very for everyone but just add more or less to your liking.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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http://www.lighterfaster.com/index2.html

This website has a carbon fiber sunroof plug for the 97-01 Prelude, which is the same size as the 92-96 sunroof I believe. I have seen a similar kit for the 4th gen on ebay, but that was a while back.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 01:56 PM
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yeah thats ugly...i want the glass.
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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i_heart_EG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah thats ugly...i want the glass. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 31, 2006 | 08:40 PM
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Isn't the 5th gen sunroof considerably smaller than the 4th gen?
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 02:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dreams190 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Isn't the 5th gen sunroof considerably smaller than the 4th gen?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no, as the earlier posts say its a perfect fit...you just have to do a little adjusting: grinding, sanding, washers, etc...
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 03:56 AM
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thanks for the help.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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couldnt you put the washers on the bolts to shim the assembly instead of just putting them in between the assembly and the roof? I would think over time they would work themselves loose and rattle around. If you put them on the bolts you may have to get longer ones but I was under the impression that you did that to shim it down.
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Old Apr 7, 2006 | 08:46 PM
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Of course the washers are going to be on the bolts; the washers have to be installed between the assembly and the roof (and the bolts are going to go through the washers, if that's what you're talking about). That is why "mounting bolts" is highlighted in the picture; to show that the washers still go around the mounting bolts, but just in between the assembly and the roof.
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Old Apr 8, 2006 | 12:57 PM
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Hey Jos3ph, thanks a lot for that shim idea. I was resigned to having my moonroof sticking up and causing wind noise permanently.

FYI, the Integra roof won't fit. It's too small.

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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 05:31 AM
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i think this topic is funny cuz my 4th gen yet to rust yet my 5th gen glass one is rusting on the tray that holds the glass
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 03:30 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fastlude69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think this topic is funny cuz my 4th gen yet to rust yet my 5th gen glass one is rusting on the tray that holds the glass</TD></TR></TABLE>

hmm...that sucks. ive heard of alot of 4th gen rusting but not 5th.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 03:59 AM
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im affraid of shimmin the whole assembly down
think about autocrossing in the rain
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SnlpeR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im affraid of shimmin the whole assembly down
think about autocrossing in the rain</TD></TR></TABLE>
I can see what you're saying, but if it works and doesn't leak in the stock configuration, I don't think shimming it down 1/4" would make it slosh over the sides. The drain tubes will still work.
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