I'm going to be throwing a new set of tires on the bike soon, so I might as well put a new chain and sprockets on it while i'm taking stuff apart - and a change in gearing would be nice as well, the stock gearing (15/43) is really way too tall, and some more grunt for around town would be nice.

Anyways - http://www.mawonline.com/rk.htm - you can get the 520 chains in varying lengths, so it seems to me that you could order a 'kit' that would be a simple R&R of the stock bits without the hassle of breaking the chain, $100 in tools to get it to the right length, etc -

Right/wrong? If so, where do I buy this stuff?

http://www.ronayers.com/catalo...e=295 - that it?

 

I bought my stuff from Terra Powersports. I also bought an RK chain tool, so I can break my chain and put it back together. I've heard that the chain tool only lasts 10 or 12 times - I've done three so far and I haven't noticed any undue wear.

If you make a big change to your gearing, you'll need to manually check how many links your chain needs (by running it around both sprockets). If you go up only two tickets in the rear, you could use the stock # of links for your chain.

There's no real reason to change sprockets unless the teeth are worn down, but changing both front and rear is always a good idea.

 

If you're doing a 520 conversion, just go -1 in the front for a bit more grunt but wont make your freeway cruising unbearable

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you make a big change to your gearing, you'll need to manually check how many links your chain needs (by running it around both sprockets). If you go up only two tickets in the rear, you could use the stock # of links for your chain.

There's no real reason to change sprockets unless the teeth are worn down, but changing both front and rear is always a good idea.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, I figure its not that expensive and it'll be a nice change -

What I was thinking is that someone smarter than me has already figured out that xx bike needs xx links in the chain with xx/xx sprockets, and just sells a box, with the parts, that i install

 

I see.

It's not very hard to push out the rivet and install a new one. If you're creative, then you could probably do it with just about any tools. Me, I'm not so creative, so I bought the chain tool.

The F3 benefits well from a +2 rear sprocket change.

 

I put that Rk kit on my F3 it made quite a difference in the acceleration and its not too bad on the freeway. Its definitely worth the money. I had to chage the chain and sprocket on mine anyway since the previous owner had left them wear down to toothpicks!!!!!! (no joke)

its slightly cheaper here http://www.indysuperbike.com/c...age=1

 

I can tell you an f2 with -1 and +2 has a chain with links 108 I believe.

And its really not that big a deal to have a shop break the chain for you. they might charge you 10-15 bucks to break it and put in the rivited link if you want one.

 

I have an 03 600RR, if I go -1 on the front can I use the stock chain and not remove any links?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whatVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have an 03 600RR, if I go -1 on the front can I use the stock chain and not remove any links?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes. But you'll have to pull the chain adjuster out, close to the max limit.

 

how much will it change my top speed if I do 15ft 45rear on my 600RR?

 

No offense, but what do you care about top speed?

 

i found a great package on ebay, which they said they had for other bike as well.... -1 front, +2 in the back (all vortex) and a r&k x chain. easily this could cost 200+++, but they are selling it all for 130. search ebay, 520 conversion.

i read it gets you to your peak hp .7 tenths faster if your doing the conversion. dont know how much faith i put in that

 

I got it all figured out, I think

I went by the local dealer yesterday and ordered 2 (steel) sprockets, -1/+2, an RK stock length o-ring chain and a press tool. I just put it on the bike, press on the side plate and mushroom the rivet ends and we're done $190 for everything

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adamRC51 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i read it gets you to your peak hp .7 tenths faster if your doing the conversion. dont know how much faith i put in that</TD></TR></TABLE>

i dont know if it makes that much difference but it does have an effect since there is less mass since 5.20 chains are smaller than the stock ones. The trade off is that they dont last as long.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No offense, but what do you care about top speed?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't track my bike at all, I'm just looking to be able to keep up with everyone else. My bike seems gutless compared to others.

 

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Has nothing to do with top speed unless everyone else is doing triple digit speeds.

What does everyone else have that an RR can't keep up?

 

well these guys that I ride with are doing 140+ at points, and they have
ZX6R's and a couple gsxrs

 

if they go 140 off a bridge do you follow...

 

My bad for all the dumb questions, but I don't know much about bikes as you can tell. I know it seems gutless compared to my previous bike which was a R1, but I didn't think there was that much of a difference between the different 600's

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whatVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well these guys that I ride with are doing 140+ at points, and they have
ZX6R's and a couple gsxrs</TD></TR></TABLE>

your bike should not have any problem keeping up, but i wouldn't. It might not be the bike, it might just that you are not shifting enough to keep the bike in its power-band and thus getting left behind. Further proving that maybe you shouldn't be going that fast.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whatVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well these guys that I ride with are doing 140+ at pointss</TD></TR></TABLE>

wowzers...

 

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your bike should not have any problem keeping up, but i wouldn't. It might not be the bike, it might just that you are not shifting enough to keep the bike in its power-band and thus getting left behind. Further proving that maybe you shouldn't be going that fast. </TD></TR></TABLE>

true, so what is the benefit of changing sprockets? It improves acceleration?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whatVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">true, so what is the benefit of changing sprockets? It improves acceleration?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It puts engine RPM at different levels for a given speed. It can improve acceleration or simply put the bike in its powerband at a different time without necessarily changing the overall speed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whatVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">true, so what is the benefit of changing sprockets? It improves acceleration?</TD></TR></TABLE>

just noticed your local to me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by whatVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

true, so what is the benefit of changing sprockets? It improves acceleration?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Improved accelearation at the expense of top speed. Like a shorter final drive gear in your transmission or rear end.

But, 140 on any public road is ******* retarded.