who has had one. What model engine was it and what broke ? (mileage ?)

 

92 Si. H23A1. Rod Bearings. 80K.

 

I took my car in a few weeks ago to check out the fairly loud knockin noise my engine makes when its cold. Mechanic told me my rod bearings were wearing out. Was your engine making knocking noises before it went? If it were how loud was it, and how long was it making the noise before it went?

 

My engine is fine.... was curious if these motors had a weak point.
(ie. like the transmissions do... 5th gear synchro)


[Modified by Mover, 9:37 AM 4/3/2002]

 

Cant tell you, it was a friends engine awhile ago.

 

hmm, rod bearings going out on a stock 2.2 cl. wow, that's weird. have you been getting oil changes regularly and checking your oil level.

most all honda motors if taken care of last plenty when fairly stock. of course that changes with mods and such and the type of driving.

but no reason why an h22a even with bolt-ons shouldn't last easily until 200,000 miles. i know of people who have about 150k on their h22a1's and compression tests are solid.

 

I change my oil regularly every 3000-3500 miles or so. But the car was used with 39k miles when i bought it...

 

Oh and I dont have an h22a, I have the accord 4 cyl. engine f22.

 

94 H23a1. Spun bearings as well. 110k miles. Hmmmmmmm....

Drving fine one day, then oil light flashed up, then came the noises. It later seized while on a test drive, trying to find out what's wrong. Stupid move, I know. Solution?...going H22.

 

jiggamein, i think your problem is because the car was used. no way of knowing the history. can't always believe the people.

reason being, i used to drive a hybrid accord. my old f22 in my 96 accord went 150,000 miles strong in 4 years. and it would have went another 100,000 easily if it wasn't for my tranny being a little screwy.

prelude_rcr, your oil pump failed.

everyone should have an oil pressure guage. the stock oil light is electrical. by the time it starts flashing it's already usually too late. when the oil light comes on that means your oil pump has failed. no pump means no oil to the motor means no oil on the bearings.

happens a lot to hondas and especially modded hondas.

 

Good point on the oil pressure gauge... but I don't want to route an
oil line into the dash of my daily driver to get a true reading.....

any type of electrical oil pressure guage isn't as accurate as one which uses an oil line according to the guys that have tried them at the track.

 

mover, i hear you about the oil line in the car but it has to be done. i used to have an autometer mechanical in my h22a accord.

never had a problem with it.

 

What kind of accuracy are you looking for? I can guarentee you most electrical pressure gauges, even the cheap autometer ones will be within a few psi of pressure. A good electrical sender with full sweep gauge will be just as accurate as a mechanical gauge, unfortunately they can get pretty expensive.

 

I replied to this on PO.com as well, but since it's down.

Most of the ruined H22a's I have seen were distroyed by mis shifts. This guy broke off an exhaust valve head and chewed up his combustion chamber. You can just see the hole on the top of the piston in the closest cylinder.


Other than that, a few auto tensioner failures which happen at just about any mileage. Flavour being towed away from a Pro Solo last year:


Usually oil starvation. 93SRVMANs cam seals leaked oil all day during an Autocross. Spun bearings and scored pistons. High mileage H22a1, I'm not certain how high though. Picture of his ruined crank, egged rods, and scored pistons: http://www.higginstribe.com/gallery/derek/

 

I hear what you're saying..... I'm just telling you what other guys
have experienced... one of them being a guy who raced a Prelude
at the Motorola Cup race at the Ex... the majority seem to prefer
the mechanical ones for accuracy.

thx for the input


[Modified by Mover, 5:46 PM 4/3/2002]


[Modified by Mover, 9:00 PM 4/3/2002]

 

Oil pump huh? So how do I go about examining it to see if it was a failed oil pump or not?

 

Reason I am confused is because isn't the knocking supposed to start within a thousand miles or so before they actually wear out? Mine's been knocking for the last 30 k miles or more.