just woundering which is the faster all around car, the new cevic si or the new
vw gti, im only asking because my buddy and i are having arguements any input would help thanks.

 

I think its a drivers race.

 

vw seems to run 15.1 from the times i have been able to find and the civic runs about 15.1 from what i have seen but im sure the si can out handle the gti becouse of weight diffrances


and from a roll i think the vw might pull harder becosue the turbo is already spooled but then again im not sure how mutch lag they have so it might spool very early in a launch to


basicly it seems to be a drivers race and it will aslo depend on the type of racing

 

the new gti and the si are both sick *** cars right now!!! as much as ilove the si i think the vw would beat the si. Si is heavier then gti. These two cars are the sickest for 06

 

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Way to spread misinformation.

06 GTI
Weight: 3308 lbs (manual); 3352 lbs (DSG)

06 SI
Weight: 2877 lbs

 

I think it would be a drivers race...but the gti is ugly as fawk...si ftw

 

i dont know about that i like the gti the si looks a little to crazy for me but its all a matter of opinion

 

pretty shitty that the vw takes a turbo to get to the NA power of the si

 

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yes, but look at the torque on the GTI compared to the Si

GTI has 207 Ft Lbs @ 1,800-5,000
the Si has 139 @ 6100

torque is what gets the car moving from a stand still

 

im sure the vw has alot of untaped potential though with $2,000 in mods i think the vw will end up quicker


but n/a power is better imo plus you get better gas milage and a lighter car

 

i agree but what if you put the same amount of money into the si like a turbo for example. i guess seems how the vw already has the turbo $2000 would make it really fast. good point

 

the si would require some work im guessing

does it have a returnless fuel system?? i know the tc does and we can actualy run boost decent stock but then again we run about a 9.6:1 compretion ratio and the si is 11:1 isnt it?? im guessing your going to need more fule then the returnless system can properly supply

i dont know realy to mutch about returnless systems but i think this is like comparing to very nice cars ment for diffrent things but that is just me


all i realy know is i would take either over my tc right now


ok it does have a returnless system so that will hinder this a little also the fact that it runs sutch high compretion does it have forged rods to handel the boost it will be taking up?? and how will the ring lands hold up at the high compretion with boost

there are many many more questions that could be asked but feel for the price a boosted k20z3 will cost you might as well spend it n/a and be more reliable and more of a sleeper

 

who cares the gti will still win!

 

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oh definetly.

the older gen 1.8t gti's that were chipped got like 50 extra hp

i love both cars, the vw is a fun, torquey little hatch back that looks like fun and the si is a high revving 2 door.

but the gti is a bit more money..

 

way more...a friend of mine just got one and it was 33k out the door!

 

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oh definetly.

the older gen 1.8t gti's that were chipped got like 50 extra hp

i love both cars, the vw is a fun, torquey little hatch back that looks like fun and the si is a high revving 2 door.

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Thats what im thinking. The VW already has a turbo so just tweek the boost controll alittle and BAM more power. The Si engine is already about strung out as much as it can go so it doesnt have much room to grow without a swap (k24) or enigne work. But with both cars stock.. I think it would probably be a drivers race.

 

i drove a gti the other day on a test drive it was sick
handled like a dream
but its sad that it has to have forced induction
compared to honda's natural aspiration

 

I really like the new GTI, it reminds my of the eg hatchs.. and i believe the GTI is faster by a little bit. Then again i hate bench/ e-racing..

 

I looked at the GTIs before I decided to go with the SI, granted I wasn't shopping for speed. Like mentioned above, it's dependant of the drivers in these cars, stock anyway. I've seen vids of two 'not perfect' drivers, and the Si was only a step ahead of the GTI. Good drivers in the SI stock can get 14.7, and I'm sure you could do the same in a GTI. VW is all about the torqe.