why isn't this done from the factory... I just learned today that I guess on race bikes it's reversed to help with shifting in turns when leaned way over... Seems odd that they'd have it backwards on factory bikes but change it when racing... just curious...

 

I dont think they want to change it since they have had it so long. And not everyone is out to race. Im sure theres a better explanation but thats my guess.

 

well yeah I'd think with the emergence of the superbike series they'd just switch it on those and people would get used to it... I mean I don't think anytime soon I'll be good enough of a rider that I'd notice the difference between the patterns....

 

i have no need for reverse shifting. Making your shifting reversed just because thats what they do in Moto GP is just retarded. IMO.

 

90% of all riders probably wouldn't need it... I just was told that it makes it easier when racing.... and if you have to do it then why not switch it on the street too. so you don't have to keep switching between the 2 patterns

 

i've ridden both myself and there isn't much of a difference. And not all racers use it reversed. It is strictly personal preference of the rider that goes for moto GP as well.

the way it comes from the factory now is probably going to stay that way for a very long time because its PRACTICAL for EVERYONE.

 

plus it's a sort've bling thing and keeps stupid thieves from stealing your bike

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EngineNoO9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">plus it's a sort've bling thing and keeps stupid thieves from stealing your bike </TD></TR></TABLE>

if you dont want any one to ride your bike put on a Jockey shift. That way people just look at the bike and dont even think of asking. But its too much of a bitch.

 

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yea.. it's because if you're on your left at the apex and still accelerating, you may need to upshift. With a normal shift pattern, you wouldn't be able to get your toes under the shifter.

On the streets, you wouldn't normally be angled so aggressively. Also, you probably wouldn't be accelerating through a turn at red line and need to upshift.

 

+1 on what Scarey said.

I just don't want to think about sticking my toes underneath the shifter. It's easier to reach over and tap down to shift.

 

I learned on a bike with GP shift so before i even left the dealer ship i just fliped it. Sucks for you uys that have to buy kits to do it. I just like it better that way it's motr comfortable for me plus when i'm wearing boots it's a little hard to fit my sixe 16 boot under the shifter.

 

gp shift messed with me a lot when my 929 had it but my 600rr did not. besides forgetting which was which, i enjoyed it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by marmaladeboy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">+1 on what Scarey said.

I just don't want to think about sticking my toes underneath the shifter. It's easier to reach over and tap down to shift.</TD></TR></TABLE>

umm... just clarifying myself but tap down to shift down right? or are you saying you like gp shift...

 

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umm... just clarifying myself but tap down to shift down right? or are you saying you like gp shift... </TD></TR></TABLE>

he lieks gp

 

When I was putting my bike (f2) back together after tear down I put the shifter linkage upside down and had reversed shifting. Was pretty easy to change. I switched it back to stock just incase someone else rides my bike.

 

once you learn GP its not hard to ride a regular..

GP shift is sweet though, one up, then pound through the gears :D

 

Yes, sorry. I should have clarified my stance. I like the reverse shift pattern. Sorry #9.

 

yea i think i am going to have to ride my new bike like this. since i last rode a bike on a regular basis my shoe size has gone up 3 sizes. only thing is i dont know if i am going to like having to feel for the downshift.

 

marmalade. do you have it done to the hawk... I was looking at it and it didn't look like an easy change....

I'd like to do this cause it's easier for me to get a nice solid upshift pushing down rather then up. downshifting is never an issue... but i hate the 1-&gt;2 shift....

 

I had the reverse shifting on my f4i race bike and my gixxer6 but when I got my 600rr its kinda a pain to switch so I just put my f4i race bike back to normal shifting so it would be consistent with my other bike. The reverse shifting is nice but its not a major improvement or anything. Coming out of turns and upshifting is the main advantage of the reverse shifting but like most peopel said, it really is preference.

 

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I'd like to do this cause it's easier for me to get a nice solid upshift pushing down rather then up. downshifting is never an issue... but i hate the 1-&gt;2 shift....</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's very easy. Take the shift rod off the spindle (you'll need to loosen the bolt on the spindle). Flip it over, then slide it back on the spindle. Voila! Reverse shift.

This works for most bikes.

 

well it didn't look like there was room is all...

 

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It's very easy. Take the shift rod off the spindle (you'll need to loosen the bolt on the spindle). Flip it over, then slide it back on the spindle. Voila! Reverse shift.

This works for most bikes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

some bikes will work, a lot wont

 

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It's a bit of a squeeze to clear the sprocket cover, but you should be able to get it just right where the lever position is perfect.

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True, true. 600RRs don't, and most Ducatis. Cost of ownership, eh!

 

ok. ill have to try when i get back this weekend...