removing swirls / scratches on a black car?
greetings HT...
under the sun, my car looks horrible w/ all the swirls / scratches. i have a black car and up close, the scratches look like they are white lines. is this repairable? or am i screwed?

would you guys recommend buying an orbital and some sort of scratch remover to see if it is even possible to remove these?
how can i discern when a scratch can be removed or when its permanently damaged?
thanks
under the sun, my car looks horrible w/ all the swirls / scratches. i have a black car and up close, the scratches look like they are white lines. is this repairable? or am i screwed?

would you guys recommend buying an orbital and some sort of scratch remover to see if it is even possible to remove these?
how can i discern when a scratch can be removed or when its permanently damaged?
thanks
i would clay that car first, invest in a portal cable 7424 dual action polisher... and get some 3M finish restorer with like a green foam cutting pad... start out light meaning less abrasive first and work your way down until you start removing the swirls.... dont go too abrasive you may burn threw your clear coat and damage the paint...
your paint is def. fixable... you may have to experiment with diff. types of polishing compounds but 3M has a whole line of ****.. aslo check out
http://www.autopia-carcare.com
they have some nice tutorials and infomation to get you started
your paint is def. fixable... you may have to experiment with diff. types of polishing compounds but 3M has a whole line of ****.. aslo check out
http://www.autopia-carcare.com
they have some nice tutorials and infomation to get you started
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manikGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would clay that car first, invest in a portal cable 7424 dual action polisher... and get some 3M finish restorer with like a green foam cutting pad... start out light meaning less abrasive first and work your way down until you start removing the swirls.... dont got too abrasive you may burn threw your clear coat and damage the paint...
your paint is def. fixable... you may have to experiment with diff. types of polishing compounds but 3M has a whole line of ****.. aslo check out
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/
they have some nice tutorials and infomation to get you started
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thanks for the link! theres soo much info there!!
your paint is def. fixable... you may have to experiment with diff. types of polishing compounds but 3M has a whole line of ****.. aslo check out
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/
they have some nice tutorials and infomation to get you started
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thanks for the link! theres soo much info there!!
with my experience from having consecutive black cars i would say if the scractches are not deep then how about using compound and a buffer, i had my friend who sprays cars for a living to compound my car twice over and then polished it once it was done and u couldnt make out the scratches unless u looked at them under a magnifying glass
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Those scratches look kinda bad, but try this https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=790409
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by teggysue »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try Turtle Wax it kinda took off some swirls on my car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
turtle wax, is just that wax... it doesnt remove any swirls it just hides them, and fills them in.
turtle wax is junk, step up to the polymers and acrylic selants/protectants like Klasse, Poorboy, and Sonus products, then top it off with a nice carnubba like p21s
turtle wax, is just that wax... it doesnt remove any swirls it just hides them, and fills them in.
turtle wax is junk, step up to the polymers and acrylic selants/protectants like Klasse, Poorboy, and Sonus products, then top it off with a nice carnubba like p21s
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by manikGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turtle wax, is just that wax... it doesnt remove any swirls it just hides them, and fills them in.
turtle wax is junk, step up to the polymers and acrylic selants/protectants like Klasse, Poorboy, and Sonus products, then top it off with a nice carnubba like p21s
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turtle wax is junk, step up to the polymers and acrylic selants/protectants like Klasse, Poorboy, and Sonus products, then top it off with a nice carnubba like p21s
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ok i just read pretty much everything on autopia, but unfortuneately, im do not want to nor have the $100+ dollars to buy the tools needed.
i feel that not everything they used is needed to bring out a shine in the car.
could i just
wash
clay
scratch + swirl remover
polish
wax?
would that be sufficient in removing my scratches and bringing out a shine?
i feel that not everything they used is needed to bring out a shine in the car.
could i just
wash
clay
scratch + swirl remover
polish
wax?
would that be sufficient in removing my scratches and bringing out a shine?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekcivic9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i just read pretty much everything on autopia, but unfortuneately, im do not want to nor have the $100+ dollars to buy the tools needed.
i feel that not everything they used is needed to bring out a shine in the car.
could i just
wash
clay
scratch + swirl remover
polish
wax?
would that be sufficient in removing my scratches and bringing out a shine?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes. You don't need fancy glazes and sealants or any of the other expensive stuff you see on sites like autopia to remove scratches and swirls. Just get yourself a shaded area to work, a good light source, and whatever products you end up deciding on.
Read up on detailing tips on sites like autopia, http://meguiarsonline.com, the detailing FAQ in this forum, http://www.properautocare.com has alot of helpful stuff too. Only problem is that most of thehelp you will find will most likely be geared towards using a DA, but you can use most of the products by hand instead.
i feel that not everything they used is needed to bring out a shine in the car.
could i just
wash
clay
scratch + swirl remover
polish
wax?
would that be sufficient in removing my scratches and bringing out a shine?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes. You don't need fancy glazes and sealants or any of the other expensive stuff you see on sites like autopia to remove scratches and swirls. Just get yourself a shaded area to work, a good light source, and whatever products you end up deciding on.
Read up on detailing tips on sites like autopia, http://meguiarsonline.com, the detailing FAQ in this forum, http://www.properautocare.com has alot of helpful stuff too. Only problem is that most of thehelp you will find will most likely be geared towards using a DA, but you can use most of the products by hand instead.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hondizzle! »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good info in this thread
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ekcivic9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i just read pretty much everything on autopia, but unfortuneately, im do not want to nor have the $100+ dollars to buy the tools needed.
i feel that not everything they used is needed to bring out a shine in the car.
could i just
wash
clay
scratch + swirl remover
polish
wax?
would that be sufficient in removing my scratches and bringing out a shine?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i mean in all honestly your paint is an investment of your time, if you want to keep it nice and fresh your gonna have to invest...
if you want nice paint you need to use quality products that seal, protect and shine the clear coat..
yea your arm is gonna fall off if you try by hand, but thats why i told you about the portal cable 7424, its a great tool it orbits "rotates" and oscilates "vibrates" at the same time which the human hand and arm combo is uncapable of doing at a consistant rate..
scratch-X is pretty abbrasive it def. can haze the clear... trust me when i tell you start with the 3M light stuff and work your way to more abrasive compunds.. you wont regret it..
you also need the right pad, there are a few types of cutting pads for each style of polish..
i feel that not everything they used is needed to bring out a shine in the car.
could i just
wash
clay
scratch + swirl remover
polish
wax?
would that be sufficient in removing my scratches and bringing out a shine?</TD></TR></TABLE>
i mean in all honestly your paint is an investment of your time, if you want to keep it nice and fresh your gonna have to invest...
if you want nice paint you need to use quality products that seal, protect and shine the clear coat..
yea your arm is gonna fall off if you try by hand, but thats why i told you about the portal cable 7424, its a great tool it orbits "rotates" and oscilates "vibrates" at the same time which the human hand and arm combo is uncapable of doing at a consistant rate..
scratch-X is pretty abbrasive it def. can haze the clear... trust me when i tell you start with the 3M light stuff and work your way to more abrasive compunds.. you wont regret it..
you also need the right pad, there are a few types of cutting pads for each style of polish..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ECKO1980 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Stop washing your car at the do-it-yourself place and going through automated car washes!!!!
That is all lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
do not listen to this kid
That is all lol</TD></TR></TABLE>
do not listen to this kid



