Rossi issues a challenge to Alonso
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A few weeks back reigning F1 World Champion Fernando said this in reference to Rossi testing the Ferrari F2004:
"Until we see him race we won't know his true potential, but it will be very difficult for him," he said. "He might finish fifth or even get on the podium some time, but I could do the same on the bikes if I was given a bit of time to practise."
Rossi fires back:
"I read that if Alonso is able to make some practice then he can put a MotoGP bike on the podium with me," the Italian told Motorcycle News. "Well, I think we should drive a Formula One car, a World Rally car and a MotoGP bike, add the times together and then we will see who is the fastest."
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"Until we see him race we won't know his true potential, but it will be very difficult for him," he said. "He might finish fifth or even get on the podium some time, but I could do the same on the bikes if I was given a bit of time to practise."
Rossi fires back:
"I read that if Alonso is able to make some practice then he can put a MotoGP bike on the podium with me," the Italian told Motorcycle News. "Well, I think we should drive a Formula One car, a World Rally car and a MotoGP bike, add the times together and then we will see who is the fastest."
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by backlash »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That would be a b*tchen series to watch!!!
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It wouldn't even be close. Rossi ******* ownz on a rally car. BTW, now that's how it's done! Rossi now gets off on challenging outside of his profession! Yes.. he's that good.
</TD></TR></TABLE>It wouldn't even be close. Rossi ******* ownz on a rally car. BTW, now that's how it's done! Rossi now gets off on challenging outside of his profession! Yes.. he's that good.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RacerZook »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my money's on Rossi.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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most importantly.............when does the series begin?
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most importantly.............when does the series begin?
rossi would own him so hard on motogp bikes. driving a car is at least something everyone does and since rossi already has proven to be pretty good in a car, then no worries there. But Alonso going to bikes would = disaster. That's not something you just pickup
yep. my money's on rossi too.
its one thing to be confident. and ive heard people say that rossi's cocky. but when someone calls you out, what else can you do but challenge them to something they wont agree to. great move on his part.
its one thing to be confident. and ive heard people say that rossi's cocky. but when someone calls you out, what else can you do but challenge them to something they wont agree to. great move on his part.
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double down!
double down!
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGlovr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its one thing to be confident. and ive heard people say that rossi's cocky. but when someone calls you out, what else can you do but challenge them to something they wont agree to. great move on his part.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Rossi is not as cocky as he could be considering he's won 7 World Championships. Even with that Rossi doesn't going around saying dumb **** like what Alonso said.
I wholeheartedly think that Rossi is serious about the challenge and would be willing to make it happen. Here is where we will see if Alonso's ***** are as big as his mouth.
Rossi is not as cocky as he could be considering he's won 7 World Championships. Even with that Rossi doesn't going around saying dumb **** like what Alonso said.
I wholeheartedly think that Rossi is serious about the challenge and would be willing to make it happen. Here is where we will see if Alonso's ***** are as big as his mouth.
Let's not forget that we are taking it outta context. <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Fernando Alonzo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">"Until we see him race we won't know his true potential, but it will be very difficult for him," he said.
"He can do well, because he will be driving a Ferrari, and can finish in the top five. But, from that to winning a Championship or races you need more.
"I could start riding a motorbike and, after three years training, be a second from them, but I don't pretend that I could beat Dani (Pedrosa) or someone who has been in motorbikes since they were three years old." </TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't see this statement as being cocky. And if it is cocky, he is the F1 champion right now, so understandibly, he can be. What he's saying is that he too has the potential to ride competitively but not for the championship.. much like Biaggi. Too little too late.
"He can do well, because he will be driving a Ferrari, and can finish in the top five. But, from that to winning a Championship or races you need more.
"I could start riding a motorbike and, after three years training, be a second from them, but I don't pretend that I could beat Dani (Pedrosa) or someone who has been in motorbikes since they were three years old." </TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't see this statement as being cocky. And if it is cocky, he is the F1 champion right now, so understandibly, he can be. What he's saying is that he too has the potential to ride competitively but not for the championship.. much like Biaggi. Too little too late.
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I don't buy that second quote because it didn't show up until over a week later in the BBC. Unless the original quote through the motorsport press was wrong I think it got changed/sanitized/backpedaled.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMU R1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rossi is not as cocky as he could be considering he's won 7 World Championships. Even with that Rossi doesn't going around saying dumb **** like what Alonso said.
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true. i even think he took the whole ferrari thing in stride.
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i really hope the challenge happens. but didnt Scarey quote him saying something like he'd be as good in three years on a bike?
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true. i even think he took the whole ferrari thing in stride.
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i really hope the challenge happens. but didnt Scarey quote him saying something like he'd be as good in three years on a bike?
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I really hope the challenge happens. but didnt Scarey quote him saying something like he'd be as good in three years on a bike?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That second quote came from BBC over a week after the original quote and mysteriously it was the only place that version of the quote came out. More than one place was skeptical of the second version (Soup, Roadracer X).
Who knows, maybe the first quotes were wrong and the second was right. I doubt it though.
I really hope the challenge happens. but didnt Scarey quote him saying something like he'd be as good in three years on a bike?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That second quote came from BBC over a week after the original quote and mysteriously it was the only place that version of the quote came out. More than one place was skeptical of the second version (Soup, Roadracer X).
Who knows, maybe the first quotes were wrong and the second was right. I doubt it though.
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it would be closer than most of you think, but Rossi would edge it out just for the fact that he would absolutely dominate on the bike.
for everyone that thinks rossi would be in the same league in a rally car or F1 car though needs a reality check. i mean i love valentino too and he really is amazing, but the fact is that alonzo is at the pinnacle of race car driving right now. he is as talented as any car driver alive at this point in time. although i think that it is great rossi is driving a F1 car and testing it and all, the fact remains that rossi is not in the same league on 4 wheel. the same thing with alonzo on a bike.
for everyone that thinks rossi would be in the same league in a rally car or F1 car though needs a reality check. i mean i love valentino too and he really is amazing, but the fact is that alonzo is at the pinnacle of race car driving right now. he is as talented as any car driver alive at this point in time. although i think that it is great rossi is driving a F1 car and testing it and all, the fact remains that rossi is not in the same league on 4 wheel. the same thing with alonzo on a bike.
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Don't be so sure. Rossi beat Colin McRare in a Rally last year (albeit not a WRC round). I don't believe Alonso has done any rallying.
Rossi has already shown he can get within about 2 seconds of 7 time World Champion Schumacher. He was only .7 seconds off MS in the Ferrari 248 while he was driving the F2004.
I'm sorry but I don't believe Alonso could beat Rossi by enough on 4 wheels to be able to beat Rossi's gap on a bike.
Rossi has already shown he can get within about 2 seconds of 7 time World Champion Schumacher. He was only .7 seconds off MS in the Ferrari 248 while he was driving the F2004.
I'm sorry but I don't believe Alonso could beat Rossi by enough on 4 wheels to be able to beat Rossi's gap on a bike.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Racer28 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it would be closer than most of you think, but Rossi would edge it out just for the fact that he would absolutely dominate on the bike.
for everyone that thinks rossi would be in the same league in a rally car or F1 car though needs a reality check. i mean i love valentino too and he really is amazing, but the fact is that alonzo is at the pinnacle of race car driving right now. he is as talented as any car driver alive at this point in time. although i think that it is great rossi is driving a F1 car and testing it and all, the fact remains that rossi is not in the same league on 4 wheel. the same thing with alonzo on a bike.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah but many people have said that f1 cars are so well put together and setup that even a child can drive them fast. It's getting the extra 1 or 2 seconds out of the lap typically which takes tons and tons of practice. Rossi already shown he can be pretty damn fast in an f1 car. He used to do rally racing before bikes. And well he kicks *** on 2 wheels. Alonso doesn't stand a chance. He will lose too miserably on bikes and there is no way he can make that time up in cars. Especially since I think he'd lose rally racing too.
for everyone that thinks rossi would be in the same league in a rally car or F1 car though needs a reality check. i mean i love valentino too and he really is amazing, but the fact is that alonzo is at the pinnacle of race car driving right now. he is as talented as any car driver alive at this point in time. although i think that it is great rossi is driving a F1 car and testing it and all, the fact remains that rossi is not in the same league on 4 wheel. the same thing with alonzo on a bike.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah but many people have said that f1 cars are so well put together and setup that even a child can drive them fast. It's getting the extra 1 or 2 seconds out of the lap typically which takes tons and tons of practice. Rossi already shown he can be pretty damn fast in an f1 car. He used to do rally racing before bikes. And well he kicks *** on 2 wheels. Alonso doesn't stand a chance. He will lose too miserably on bikes and there is no way he can make that time up in cars. Especially since I think he'd lose rally racing too.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JMU R1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Don't be so sure. Rossi beat Colin McRare in a Rally last year (albeit not a WRC round). I don't believe Alonso has done any rallying.
Rossi has already shown he can get within about 2 seconds of 7 time World Champion Schumacher. He was only .7 seconds off MS in the Ferrari 248 while he was driving the F2004.
I'm sorry but I don't believe Alonso could beat Rossi by enough on 4 wheels to be able to beat Rossi's gap on a bike.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sure that Alonso would quickly adapt to rally because someone of his caliber has the 'feel' for it. Anyone see From Dust To Glory.. when old man Andretti got behind the wheel of a prerunner and made the owner of the truck almost **** his pants 'cause Mario was so gawddamn fast?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EngineNoO9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah but many people have said that f1 cars are so well put together and setup that even a child can drive them fast. It's getting the extra 1 or 2 seconds out of the lap typically which takes tons and tons of practice. Rossi already shown he can be pretty damn fast in an f1 car. He used to do rally racing before bikes. And well he kicks *** on 2 wheels. Alonso doesn't stand a chance. He will lose too miserably on bikes and there is no way he can make that time up in cars. Especially since I think he'd lose rally racing too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
'Setup' comes only with feedback from the driver. And Rossi is a master at delivering exactly what the techs need to relate his words into the 'setup'. Also, to get within 2 secs of a track record, you'd usually need years of roadracing experience. A rookie out on a track for the 1st time on an F1 will not get within 2 sec of a track record. And that's assuming that the rookie was bred on open wheel racing since childhood. Rossi did it on his off season practices.
Rossi has already shown he can get within about 2 seconds of 7 time World Champion Schumacher. He was only .7 seconds off MS in the Ferrari 248 while he was driving the F2004.
I'm sorry but I don't believe Alonso could beat Rossi by enough on 4 wheels to be able to beat Rossi's gap on a bike.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm sure that Alonso would quickly adapt to rally because someone of his caliber has the 'feel' for it. Anyone see From Dust To Glory.. when old man Andretti got behind the wheel of a prerunner and made the owner of the truck almost **** his pants 'cause Mario was so gawddamn fast?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EngineNoO9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah but many people have said that f1 cars are so well put together and setup that even a child can drive them fast. It's getting the extra 1 or 2 seconds out of the lap typically which takes tons and tons of practice. Rossi already shown he can be pretty damn fast in an f1 car. He used to do rally racing before bikes. And well he kicks *** on 2 wheels. Alonso doesn't stand a chance. He will lose too miserably on bikes and there is no way he can make that time up in cars. Especially since I think he'd lose rally racing too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
'Setup' comes only with feedback from the driver. And Rossi is a master at delivering exactly what the techs need to relate his words into the 'setup'. Also, to get within 2 secs of a track record, you'd usually need years of roadracing experience. A rookie out on a track for the 1st time on an F1 will not get within 2 sec of a track record. And that's assuming that the rookie was bred on open wheel racing since childhood. Rossi did it on his off season practices.
yeah but that's a track record. they aren't set everytime out. put alonso and rossi in identical cars setup for each driver and i bet there won't be more then 2 seconds difference. while on gp bikes I bet rossi would win by 10 seconds or more
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Yeah I don't think Alonso would do too shabby at rallying but he certainly wouldn't win by enough to negate Rossi's advantage on a bike.
Dust 2 Glory is an all time great movie btw
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Rossi would own Alonso in that challenge
ALonso in my opinion is way too cocky. I am starting to dislike him more and more. I give him credit for being world champ but its only 1. M Schuey isn't anywhere near as cocky and has been champ 7 times. Alonso should respect another competitor, not put them down. I hope Rossi someday puts him in his place, whether its F1, MotoGP, WRC, or something else
ALonso in my opinion is way too cocky. I am starting to dislike him more and more. I give him credit for being world champ but its only 1. M Schuey isn't anywhere near as cocky and has been champ 7 times. Alonso should respect another competitor, not put them down. I hope Rossi someday puts him in his place, whether its F1, MotoGP, WRC, or something else
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nishant »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">M Schuey isn't anywhere near as cocky and has been champ 7 times. </TD></TR></TABLE>that arguement makes me want to throw up. schumacher has never raced anyone except over the hill drivers and nobodys. he is lucky to have been in the formula 1 series when the ability of the cars has exceeded the ability of the drivers. if he had to run against any of the great from even 10 years earlier he wouldnt have more than 2 championships and if it wasnt for the untimely death of the greatest driver ever to live, then you could cut his championship number in more than half.
and rossi would dominate on the bike and alonso would pretty much dominate in the F1 car, although not by as much as rossi would get him in the bike, and figuring they would be pretty close to equal in the rally car, then yes rossi would win but i think alot of you 2 wheel guys underestimate how versitale a F1 driver would be behind the wheel.
and rossi would dominate on the bike and alonso would pretty much dominate in the F1 car, although not by as much as rossi would get him in the bike, and figuring they would be pretty close to equal in the rally car, then yes rossi would win but i think alot of you 2 wheel guys underestimate how versitale a F1 driver would be behind the wheel.





but if it does happen, I put my NSR on rossi