Alright after searching and finding for sale threads and peoples person opinions and verbal malice. I figure I would take it up with the ITR community here and see if I can find a substantial answer to why Honda made different LCA's for the ITR. Was if for stability? Was it to set it apart? Maybe to make it more rigid...? I honestly don't know...can anyone help me out with my curiosity?

 

It is simply to make replacement LCA's worth more since you can say it's for a Type R.

 

lol...nice, good point though.

 

honda wouldn't make a change unless it was for a specific reason.

that being said, you can rest assured it was either to improve handling and/ or strengthen those areas of the vehicle.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Black R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">honda wouldn't make a change unless it was for a specific reason.

that being said, you can rest assured it was either to improve handling and/ or strengthen those areas of the vehicle. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yah, the 88 crx was very much in need of stronger rear LCAs

I'd be curious to actually find out the real reasoning. I'm wondering if there are direct strength and weight differences.

 

they are there to not only be a stronger LCA but also to have a stronger rear shock. the ITR LCA is much heavier than a non-ITR LCA.

 

Have you weighed the two of them for a comparison?

 

They probably did it for the bling bling.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
They probably did it for the bling bling.
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If that was the case, then they would've left it a polished part like on the GSR. The ITRs are sprayed with anti-corrosion spray.

My thinking is the rear struts mounting position required it.

 

I dont think thats the case as non TypeR JDM Integras all have the same LCA as the ITR, and that includes the Ti/Xi/ZX 1.6 SOHC models.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont think thats the case as non TypeR JDM Integras all have the same LCA as the ITR, and that includes the Ti/Xi/ZX 1.6 SOHC models.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, this is something I've noticed also.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont think thats the case as non TypeR JDM Integras all have the same LCA as the ITR, and that includes the Ti/Xi/ZX 1.6 SOHC models.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do they use the same struts also?

 

Here's something to add to the fire, ITR LCAs are cheaper than GSRs. Perhaps a switch to that to upgrade the ITR up from the GSR and keep cost down?

I've also noticed certain ITR items are cheaper than GSRs.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mugenracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I dont think thats the case as non TypeR JDM Integras all have the same LCA as the ITR, and that includes the Ti/Xi/ZX 1.6 SOHC models.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you think maybe they did this because when they built the type-R they started from a low base model (Ti/Xi/ZX) and fixed it up from there? (and left the control arms) just a maybe

 

This is getting good. My initial thought would be shock options as stated else-where.
The price difference doesn't surprise me since one is a cast piece and the other is, if memory serves me right, a "stamped" steel part.
I didn't know that the JDM ITR's didn't use these LCA's...I am learning and learning is good .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infulleffect &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is getting good. My initial thought would be shock options as stated else-where.
The price difference doesn't surprise me since one is a cast piece and the other is, if memory serves me right, a "stamped" steel part.
I didn't know that the JDM ITR's didn't use these LCA's...I am learning and learning is good .</TD></TR></TABLE>
i too am thinking it was because of shock options... on that note, anyone running aftermarket LCAs that are a perfect fit?? i've heard of a couple set available but really don't go in smooth without some kind of modifying.

sorry to vere a little OT

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JUN.R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone running aftermarket LCAs that are a perfect fit?? i've heard of a couple set available but really don't go in smooth without some kind of modifying.

sorry to vere a little OT</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not off topic at all...that is a good question. I wasn't sure if they made a good machined LCA for the ITR. I've seen the ones for the other Honda vehicles and think they look nice, but functionally are they all they are hyped up to be?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by neo_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Only way you'll ever find out the "REAL reason" for the change is if you talk to a Honda engineer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe some one has or can and we'll find out

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infulleffect &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Not off topic at all...that is a good question. I wasn't sure if they made a good machined LCA for the ITR. I've seen the ones for the other Honda vehicles and think they look nice, but functionally are they all they are hyped up to be?</TD></TR></TABLE>
IMO more then likely, as they'd "probably" be about half the weight of OEM LCAs. if you race your car great as it'll give you less sprung weight, if not... keep the stockers unless you're looking for bling.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by infulleffect &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I didn't know that the JDM ITR's didn't use these LCA's...I am learning and learning is good .</TD></TR></TABLE>

The JDM ITR's have the same lower control arm as the USDM ITR's. The lower models in Japan also have the same control arms.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1171287

try here

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Do they use the same struts also?</TD></TR></TABLE>

They use the same style struts/shocks but they're rated differently, the springs as you probably already know are taller and rated differently also.

I think milano2kdc2 may be right, the DC/DB integras were in existence from 1993 and honda possibly decided to continue using the rear LCA it had always been using on these cars...but that still doesnt answer why US Integras used the other type LCA

 

I thought the ITR control arms helped handling. My friends GSR had ITR shocks and control arms and the handling difference was incredible.

 

Maybe the other USDM model Integra's had different LCA's because the roads here are not as nice as in JDMland, also the amount of miles put on a USDM car vs. a JDM car. Remember Honda's all about reliability.

Also, Im not 100% percent sure but I dont think the LCA's on my 88 crx are the same as on my R. I've heard this said beore but I also heard that the eyelit (not sure if thats what its called, where the shock mounts) is bigger on one of the 2. I think the R is bigger correct me if Im wrong.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by len &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here's something to add to the fire, ITR LCAs are cheaper than GSRs. Perhaps a switch to that to upgrade the ITR up from the GSR and keep cost down?

I've also noticed certain ITR items are cheaper than GSRs.</TD></TR></TABLE>

This is very true b/c I had to buy ITR arms for my rex because i wasn't about to pay Honda for what they were asking for 88 CRX arms.

People have this misconception that ITR stuff is more expensive. ITR arms are lighter too, right?