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Old Mar 31, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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Default Failing Va Emissions for too much hydrocarbons (unburnt gases)..are these needed?

I was thinkin I should change pcv valve, spark plugs, and maybe dist cap and rotor?

I heard the pcv valve is what actually reroutes the hydrocarbons from the engine back into the combustion chamber to get burned up through the cycle again.. so i'm thinkin that would be the biggest problem i'm having if mine is clogged... probably is since i have never changed it and i have about 90k miles on the engine now.. probably needs some other **** too!
anyway just wonderin what you guys think i can do?

and if i get spark plugs what kind should i be getting? are those ngk iridiums really worth it? if not whats a good one thats easily accessable.
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Old Mar 31, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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dude u have created like 10 threads now....do a ******* tune, give the emissions guy a 20 dollar tip before he does the test and be done with it......quit creating threads and if that doesnt work buy one of these adn go **** urself
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Old Mar 31, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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dude u have created like 10 threads now....do a ******* tune, give the emissions guy a 20 dollar tip before he does the test and be done with it......quit creating threads and if that doesnt work buy one of these adn go **** urself

I'm going to do it but I need some more info. so if you can't help then just chill.
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Old Mar 31, 2002 | 05:43 PM
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Wow, Gotta love detail!

Do you have a catalytic convertor still? I failed bad without one (320ppm actual / 220ppm max allowed) and I put a cat on and bamm!! 46ppm @ 2500RPM , and I think it was like 150ppm at idle. Anyways, try that fuel injection cleaner stuff on a full tank, like Guarnteed to Pass or something like that. If you got a FPR, you can lean it out just a tad and use the high octane gas so it wont ping (but no octane booster). You can also try the plugs, plug wires, and an oil change.


Also if possible let the car run before it goes on, a cat doesn't work at full operation till 600* F. So if its been sitting in the parking lot a while it might not work as good.


[Modified by Westrock2000, 8:45 PM 3/31/2002]
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Old Mar 31, 2002 | 06:32 PM
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Default Re: Failing Va Emissions for too much hydrocarbons (Westrock2000)

Wow, Gotta love detail!

Do you have a catalytic convertor still? I failed bad without one (320ppm actual / 220ppm max allowed) and I put a cat on and bamm!! 46ppm @ 2500RPM , and I think it was like 150ppm at idle. Anyways, try that fuel injection cleaner stuff on a full tank, like Guarnteed to Pass or something like that. If you got a FPR, you can lean it out just a tad and use the high octane gas so it wont ping (but no octane booster). You can also try the plugs, plug wires, and an oil change.


Also if possible let the car run before it goes on, a cat doesn't work at full operation till 600* F. So if its been sitting in the parking lot a while it might not work as good.


[Modified by Westrock2000, 8:45 PM 3/31/2002]
320ppm bad? hah. i failed two days ago with 489ppm (220ppm max).

im pretty sure i have the wrong ecu.
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Old Mar 31, 2002 | 09:36 PM
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Default Re: Failing Va Emissions for too much hydrocarbons (Westrock2000)

Wow, Gotta love detail!

Do you have a catalytic convertor still? I failed bad without one (320ppm actual / 220ppm max allowed) and I put a cat on and bamm!! 46ppm @ 2500RPM , and I think it was like 150ppm at idle. Anyways, try that fuel injection cleaner stuff on a full tank, like Guarnteed to Pass or something like that. If you got a FPR, you can lean it out just a tad and use the high octane gas so it wont ping (but no octane booster). You can also try the plugs, plug wires, and an oil change.


Also if possible let the car run before it goes on, a cat doesn't work at full operation till 600* F. So if its been sitting in the parking lot a while it might not work as good.


[Modified by Westrock2000, 8:45 PM 3/31/2002]
yeah my car is pretty much stock other than intake header exh... I have a stock cat on too.. and i went for a pretty long drive before test... i'm thinkin its the pcv vavle.. anything else i can replace that might help? thanks
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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 03:11 AM
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How many damn threads do you need to create to get the same advice? You state "...I was thinking I should change the PCV valve, spark plugs..etc"....thats what EVERYONE has been telling you...myself included.

******* do a tune-up and AFTER that, get back to us. I'm surprised that the board members continue to provide you support....because its blantantly obvious you haven't read a damn word of anything that has been posted.

Your the first person I've ever layed into like this...but your also the first person who has ever done this to THIS degree.
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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 05:59 AM
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And make sure your car is warmed up properly and that it doesn't idle more than 5 minutes before you do your emissions...
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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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Default Re: Failing Va Emissions for too much hydrocarbons (EE_Chris)

How many damn threads do you need to create to get the same advice? You state "...I was thinking I should change the PCV valve, spark plugs..etc"....thats what EVERYONE has been telling you...myself included.

******* do a tune-up and AFTER that, get back to us. I'm surprised that the board members continue to provide you support....because its blantantly obvious you haven't read a damn word of anything that has been posted.

Your the first person I've ever layed into like this...but your also the first person who has ever done this to THIS degree.
if it bothers you too much that i'm trying to get help from people other than you then dont help me.. simple as that.. no need to get hostile guy...
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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 09:35 AM
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Its not so much that your not taking 'my' advice...so much as its the same advice thats been given over and over by DIFFERENT board memebers...excluding myself.

I'm not so much trying to help you with your problem, as I'm now trying to get you to see that the answers that have been given aren't going to change.

I see it alot on this board...one person gives the correct answer...but the questioner doesn't believe him...so he says "anyone else?". No problem there, nothing wrong with a littel re-assurance on the answer...but you've been given it 5 or so times.

Yeah, I know I came off hostile...I intended for it to be percieved as such. But I'm not a dick, and I am trying to help you out....just as everyone else is...but you seem to ignore everything thats been posted....WHY?
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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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Default Re: Failing Va Emissions for too much hydrocarbons (unburnt gases)..are these needed? (EKb18b)

everyone read thsi thread...this will explain what a ******* dumbass ekb18b is https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=146671
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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 10:20 AM
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Default Re: Failing Va Emissions for too much hydrocarbons (On Point EK)

everyone read thsi thread...this will explain what a ******* dumbass ekb18b is https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=146671
dude why are you being such a dick? i already told you i am just trying to see if others have suggestions that haven't been provided by you or others who have replied. Unless it brings you joy to put down others chill .
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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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Default Re: Failing Va Emissions for too much hydrocarbons (EE_Chris)

Its not so much that your not taking 'my' advice...so much as its the same advice thats been given over and over by DIFFERENT board memebers...excluding myself.

I'm not so much trying to help you with your problem, as I'm now trying to get you to see that the answers that have been given aren't going to change.

I see it alot on this board...one person gives the correct answer...but the questioner doesn't believe him...so he says "anyone else?". No problem there, nothing wrong with a littel re-assurance on the answer...but you've been given it 5 or so times.

Yeah, I know I came off hostile...I intended for it to be percieved as such. But I'm not a dick, and I am trying to help you out....just as everyone else is...but you seem to ignore everything thats been posted....WHY?
i hear your point man. Yeah no hard feelings or nothing.. i just want the most feedback i can get and as the older posts get pushed down the line i figure if i just repost i can get some new ideas.. i've tried most of the things you guys have suggested and it hasn't worked thats another reason why i keep posting. if it bothers you just ignore me. thanks

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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 02:54 PM
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EKb18b: i have been doing emmisions testing for almost 3 years. i have done well over 15000 e-tests and i can tell you i've had the worst **** boxes pass and the newest current model year cars fail. there is no reason your car should fail. it's most likley the converter is getting tired and not working as efficiently as it once used to.

particullary on the honda's the converter takes a while to get to to operating temprature because the engine doesnt generated enough heat at lower RPM's (which is what the e-test is running at).

my advice to you is you should do the tune up your talking about. change the plugs, PCV valve and change the oil as well. and if you can afford it get a new converter.

also i have experimented with ignition timing. retarding the timing WILL reduce HC levels as well as NOx. try to retard it to the minium factory spec or even a little less.

and like i said once before make sure the converter is smoking hot........beat the hell out of the car before the e-test is about to be done.

good luck
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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 03:21 PM
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EKb18b: i have been doing emmisions testing for almost 3 years. i have done well over 15000 e-tests and i can tell you i've had the worst **** boxes pass and the newest current model year cars fail. there is no reason your car should fail. it's most likley the converter is getting tired and not working as efficiently as it once used to.

particullary on the honda's the converter takes a while to get to to operating temprature because the engine doesnt generated enough heat at lower RPM's (which is what the e-test is running at).

my advice to you is you should do the tune up your talking about. change the plugs, PCV valve and change the oil as well. and if you can afford it get a new converter.

also i have experimented with ignition timing. retarding the timing WILL reduce HC levels as well as NOx. try to retard it to the minium factory spec or even a little less.

and like i said once before make sure the converter is smoking hot........beat the hell out of the car before the e-test is about to be done.

good luck
thanks for the good info bro.
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