HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help
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HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help
Hey guys I am going to be getting a b16a for my 1991 CRX Si and need a lot of help with what parts I need exactly.
1. Should I get the regular swap ($1250) or the complete changover ($1499) they have listed. The difference is the complete change over has Axles with Half Shaft, Shift Linkage, Stock Motor Mounts. The thing is does any of this work with a USDM CRX Si or are these extra parts useless?
2. Which transmission? I AM getting LSD so I dont know if i still have a choice of J1, S1, or Y1. If so whats the difference and which is best?
3. How much HP can the OEM LSD handle?
4. They say they can also supply 90-93 Integra steering knuckles and hubs for $50. Do I need that?
Mostly I am confused about the axles. Which work? Which hubs, axles, intermediate shaft, ect..
Also can anyone let me know what other parts I would need (just to get it in the car. I will get a clutch, flywheel, timing belt ect for the engine) besides
Motor which includes
- Cable Tranny (Y1, S1, J1)
- ECU (PR3, PW0)
- Alternator
- Starter
- Clutch
- Flywheel
- Intake Manifold
- Exhaust Manifold
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Distributor
- Engine Harness
- Comes With All Sensors Needed
- LSD Tranny (+$300)
engine mounts
shift linkage
wiring sub harness for vtec and whatever sensors
The only thing left is axles correct?
Thanks for the help!!!
1. Should I get the regular swap ($1250) or the complete changover ($1499) they have listed. The difference is the complete change over has Axles with Half Shaft, Shift Linkage, Stock Motor Mounts. The thing is does any of this work with a USDM CRX Si or are these extra parts useless?
2. Which transmission? I AM getting LSD so I dont know if i still have a choice of J1, S1, or Y1. If so whats the difference and which is best?
3. How much HP can the OEM LSD handle?
4. They say they can also supply 90-93 Integra steering knuckles and hubs for $50. Do I need that?
Mostly I am confused about the axles. Which work? Which hubs, axles, intermediate shaft, ect..
Also can anyone let me know what other parts I would need (just to get it in the car. I will get a clutch, flywheel, timing belt ect for the engine) besides
Motor which includes
- Cable Tranny (Y1, S1, J1)
- ECU (PR3, PW0)
- Alternator
- Starter
- Clutch
- Flywheel
- Intake Manifold
- Exhaust Manifold
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Distributor
- Engine Harness
- Comes With All Sensors Needed
- LSD Tranny (+$300)
engine mounts
shift linkage
wiring sub harness for vtec and whatever sensors
The only thing left is axles correct?
Thanks for the help!!!
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (TurboEM1)
disclaimer: dont take my word for it, people should chime in if any of this is wrong.
you will not need the knuckles/hubs, your si ones will be fine. the stock motor mounts from the b16 also will not work because i think the sir mount position in the engine bay itself is different from the usdm d series position. the axles from the b16 i dont think you need because the correct axles would be da integra axles. i dont know about the shift linkage, but i am guessing it may not work because the engine in the sir is mounted differently than it will be in your ef chassis.
in short, the regular swap is the way to go because most of the parts you cannot use.
you will not need the knuckles/hubs, your si ones will be fine. the stock motor mounts from the b16 also will not work because i think the sir mount position in the engine bay itself is different from the usdm d series position. the axles from the b16 i dont think you need because the correct axles would be da integra axles. i dont know about the shift linkage, but i am guessing it may not work because the engine in the sir is mounted differently than it will be in your ef chassis.
in short, the regular swap is the way to go because most of the parts you cannot use.
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (sanimalp)
from someone who got the complete package and regretted it, take my word and get just the regular swap. the axles in the complete package will work but are used, and one of mine was busted on delivary. looked like they pulled on the other end of the axle to remove it from the tranny, instead of prying it out. that would be the only part you might use. so your paying $249 for possibly broken axles/used axles and an half shaft??? (their website mentions nothing about wither halfshaft is included w/ regular swap so i'm guessing it isnt, if not pick up one from 90 integra)
get the s1 or j1 tranny with the pr3 (half shaft that usually comes with these make axles easier to find), 90 integra axles (w/o abs), mounts, vtec wire subharness, and shift linkage. all sensors should be good, and if they are broke, you might be able to use some off your old d. da knuckes would only be needed if you had an hf, so no need.
also you should get (like thier warrenty says) all tune up and maintence parts:
spark plugs
spark plug wires (leads)
rotor
timing belt
water pump
tension pulley
also a good idea (or atleast something to think about)
crank seals, oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket (including those above spark plugs), oil pump, alternator (& a/c if used) belts, and flywheel & clutch since you said you would. also anything that would suck to replace w/ the engine in. i think that pretty much covers it.... good luck.
get the s1 or j1 tranny with the pr3 (half shaft that usually comes with these make axles easier to find), 90 integra axles (w/o abs), mounts, vtec wire subharness, and shift linkage. all sensors should be good, and if they are broke, you might be able to use some off your old d. da knuckes would only be needed if you had an hf, so no need.
also you should get (like thier warrenty says) all tune up and maintence parts:
spark plugs
spark plug wires (leads)
rotor
timing belt
water pump
tension pulley
also a good idea (or atleast something to think about)
crank seals, oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket (including those above spark plugs), oil pump, alternator (& a/c if used) belts, and flywheel & clutch since you said you would. also anything that would suck to replace w/ the engine in. i think that pretty much covers it.... good luck.
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (jacoop86)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jacoop86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">from someone who got the complete package and regretted it, take my word and get just the regular swap. the axles in the complete package will work but are used, and one of mine was busted on delivary. looked like they pulled on the other end of the axle to remove it from the tranny, instead of prying it out. that would be the only part you might use. so your paying $249 for possibly broken axles/used axles and an half shaft??? (their website mentions nothing about wither halfshaft is included w/ regular swap so i'm guessing it isnt, if not pick up one from 90 integra)
get the s1 or j1 tranny with the pr3 (half shaft that usually comes with these make axles easier to find), 90 integra axles (w/o abs), mounts, vtec wire subharness, and shift linkage. all sensors should be good, and if they are broke, you might be able to use some off your old d. da knuckes would only be needed if you had an hf, so no need.
also you should get (like thier warrenty says) all tune up and maintence parts:
spark plugs
spark plug wires (leads)
rotor
timing belt
water pump
tension pulley
also a good idea (or atleast something to think about)
crank seals, oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket (including those above spark plugs), oil pump, alternator (& a/c if used) belts, and flywheel & clutch since you said you would. also anything that would suck to replace w/ the engine in. i think that pretty much covers it.... good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks so much. This is the post I was looking for. One more thing. I understand that i will use 90-93 integra axles and half shaft. Do i need to buy them? Do they come with the swap?
get the s1 or j1 tranny with the pr3 (half shaft that usually comes with these make axles easier to find), 90 integra axles (w/o abs), mounts, vtec wire subharness, and shift linkage. all sensors should be good, and if they are broke, you might be able to use some off your old d. da knuckes would only be needed if you had an hf, so no need.
also you should get (like thier warrenty says) all tune up and maintence parts:
spark plugs
spark plug wires (leads)
rotor
timing belt
water pump
tension pulley
also a good idea (or atleast something to think about)
crank seals, oil pan gasket, valve cover gasket (including those above spark plugs), oil pump, alternator (& a/c if used) belts, and flywheel & clutch since you said you would. also anything that would suck to replace w/ the engine in. i think that pretty much covers it.... good luck.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thanks so much. This is the post I was looking for. One more thing. I understand that i will use 90-93 integra axles and half shaft. Do i need to buy them? Do they come with the swap?
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (TurboEM1)
according to hmotorsonline (http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000...age&item=30001) it doesnt say axles and half shaft comes with the regular swap. so you may have to. dont know.
another thing i forgot to mention:
the y1 was the only tranny (out of y1, s1, j1) that had optional lsd:
http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm
but the y1 has the bitch halfshaft. so if it is included in the swap, you would have to get a custom driver side axle. raxle or hasport has them. if no halfshaft, get the integra halfshaft and axles, no problem.
ohh, and to answer (somewhat) your 3rd question, i've heard the open differental on these trannys are actually weaker than the lsd equiped.
also the shiftlinkage i was talking about is custom, hasport or other.
another thing i forgot to mention:
the y1 was the only tranny (out of y1, s1, j1) that had optional lsd:
http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm
but the y1 has the bitch halfshaft. so if it is included in the swap, you would have to get a custom driver side axle. raxle or hasport has them. if no halfshaft, get the integra halfshaft and axles, no problem.
ohh, and to answer (somewhat) your 3rd question, i've heard the open differental on these trannys are actually weaker than the lsd equiped.
also the shiftlinkage i was talking about is custom, hasport or other.
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (jacoop86)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jacoop86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another thing i forgot to mention:
the y1 was the only tranny (out of y1, s1, j1) that had optional lsd:
http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm
but the y1 has the bitch halfshaft. so if it is included in the swap, you would have to get a custom driver side axle. raxle or hasport has them. if no halfshaft, get the integra halfshaft and axles, no problem.
ohh, and to answer (somewhat) your 3rd question, i've heard the open differental on these trannys are actually weaker than the lsd equiped.
also the shiftlinkage i was talking about is custom, hasport or other.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if the y1 has the bitch halfshaft could you just put the integra one on or is it not interchangable?
Also the open differental on these trannys is weaker than the lsd equipped? did i read that right?
the y1 was the only tranny (out of y1, s1, j1) that had optional lsd:
http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm
but the y1 has the bitch halfshaft. so if it is included in the swap, you would have to get a custom driver side axle. raxle or hasport has them. if no halfshaft, get the integra halfshaft and axles, no problem.
ohh, and to answer (somewhat) your 3rd question, i've heard the open differental on these trannys are actually weaker than the lsd equiped.
also the shiftlinkage i was talking about is custom, hasport or other.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if the y1 has the bitch halfshaft could you just put the integra one on or is it not interchangable?
Also the open differental on these trannys is weaker than the lsd equipped? did i read that right?
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (TurboEM1)
1, i think it is interchangable, dont know why it wouldnt be.
2, thats what ive heard, but if you want a stronger overall tranny step up to a '92+ b series (Y21/Y80/S80/S4C/YS1) Hydraulic, use a hydro cable conversion. not sure about differental differences, but believe both are helical.
i searched and found this:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tc_gts »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I just recently finished my swap
1st check wut type of tranny you have...y1/j1/s1/ys1
2nd check which intermediate shaft you have sk7/sh3
if you have y1 tranny and sh3 intermediate shaft you will use 89teg axle on drivers side and 90 teg axle on passenger side
if you have a sk7 intermediate shaft you will use 90 teg axles on both sides...
if you use 90 teg axles on driver side with sh3 intermediate shaft it will be too long </TD></TR></TABLE>
also found this:
If the engine you bought has a Y1 transmission then you most likely have the intermediate shaft like the one on the left side of this picture. If your engine came with an S1, J1, or A1 transmission, then the intermediate shaft on the right is the one you should have. We will call the one on the right, the Integra style intermediate shaft since it is identical to the ones that come on the US 90-93 Integras. The one on the left we sill call an SiR style intermediate shaft. Notice the one on the left is approximately 1 inch longer than the intermediate shaft on the right. For the Integra style intermediate shaft you can use a 90-93 Integra left-hand axle. Once again consult the illustration at the bottom of the page and remove the dust seal on the end of the axle and the hub ring on the inside of the hub. For the SiR style intermediate shaft you must use an 86-89 Integra axle with the 90-93 Integra inner joint.
i dont know which is true, if you can use the 89 teg axle for y1/sh3 or if the 86-89 Integra axle with the 90-93 Integra inner joint is correct. best bet is probably raxles or hasport to make sure its right.
2, thats what ive heard, but if you want a stronger overall tranny step up to a '92+ b series (Y21/Y80/S80/S4C/YS1) Hydraulic, use a hydro cable conversion. not sure about differental differences, but believe both are helical.
i searched and found this:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tc_gts »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I just recently finished my swap
1st check wut type of tranny you have...y1/j1/s1/ys1
2nd check which intermediate shaft you have sk7/sh3
if you have y1 tranny and sh3 intermediate shaft you will use 89teg axle on drivers side and 90 teg axle on passenger side
if you have a sk7 intermediate shaft you will use 90 teg axles on both sides...
if you use 90 teg axles on driver side with sh3 intermediate shaft it will be too long </TD></TR></TABLE>
also found this:
If the engine you bought has a Y1 transmission then you most likely have the intermediate shaft like the one on the left side of this picture. If your engine came with an S1, J1, or A1 transmission, then the intermediate shaft on the right is the one you should have. We will call the one on the right, the Integra style intermediate shaft since it is identical to the ones that come on the US 90-93 Integras. The one on the left we sill call an SiR style intermediate shaft. Notice the one on the left is approximately 1 inch longer than the intermediate shaft on the right. For the Integra style intermediate shaft you can use a 90-93 Integra left-hand axle. Once again consult the illustration at the bottom of the page and remove the dust seal on the end of the axle and the hub ring on the inside of the hub. For the SiR style intermediate shaft you must use an 86-89 Integra axle with the 90-93 Integra inner joint.
i dont know which is true, if you can use the 89 teg axle for y1/sh3 or if the 86-89 Integra axle with the 90-93 Integra inner joint is correct. best bet is probably raxles or hasport to make sure its right.
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (jdm91CrxSi)
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (LankorDie)
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^pwnt haaha
but yea back to to the topic:
the OEM lsd is suggested as its fairly cheap considering its only $300 vs. three times as much for an aftermarket piece, but the aftermarket may be better in some cases.
also:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jacoop86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">according to hmotorsonline (http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000...age&item=30001) it doesnt say axles and half shaft comes with the regular swap. so you may have to. dont know.
another thing i forgot to mention:
the y1 was the only tranny (out of y1, s1, j1) that had optional lsd:
http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm
but the y1 has the bitch halfshaft. so if it is included in the swap, you would have to get a custom driver side axle. raxle or hasport has them. if no halfshaft, get the integra halfshaft and axles, no problem.
ohh, and to answer (somewhat) your 3rd question, i've heard the open differental on these trannys are actually weaker than the lsd equiped.
also the shiftlinkage i was talking about is custom, hasport or other.</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is correct if you buy just the swap and NOT the complete change over you're NOT gonna get the half-intermediate shaft, which is obviosly required, depending on which half shaft you get its either between the 86-89 teg driver axle or the 90-93 driver axle, i'm saying this because i bought a 90-93 teg half axle and apparently a 90-93 driver axle did not work i had to opt for a slightly shorter 86-89 teg driver axle, but these half shafts are easily avaiable so dont bother getting the "completely changer over swap" just for that, also like someone else said, the axles you get with the "complete change over" are only worth trading in for a core charge, cuz they're garbage!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jacoop86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alsothe y1 was the only tranny (out of y1, s1, j1) that had optional lsd:</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is false as i have an S1 tranny with the OEM LSD, this i got from HMO, i can post pics if you'd like. And i've got the shittiest final drive honda has ever made to prove it.
i say this all since i JUST got done with a swap just a few months ago and i'm actually selling it for other plans with my chassis.
^pwnt haaha
but yea back to to the topic:
the OEM lsd is suggested as its fairly cheap considering its only $300 vs. three times as much for an aftermarket piece, but the aftermarket may be better in some cases.
also:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jacoop86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">according to hmotorsonline (http://hmotorsonline.com/shop/sc2000...age&item=30001) it doesnt say axles and half shaft comes with the regular swap. so you may have to. dont know.
another thing i forgot to mention:
the y1 was the only tranny (out of y1, s1, j1) that had optional lsd:
http://www.allmotorhonda.com/t...s.htm
but the y1 has the bitch halfshaft. so if it is included in the swap, you would have to get a custom driver side axle. raxle or hasport has them. if no halfshaft, get the integra halfshaft and axles, no problem.
ohh, and to answer (somewhat) your 3rd question, i've heard the open differental on these trannys are actually weaker than the lsd equiped.
also the shiftlinkage i was talking about is custom, hasport or other.</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is correct if you buy just the swap and NOT the complete change over you're NOT gonna get the half-intermediate shaft, which is obviosly required, depending on which half shaft you get its either between the 86-89 teg driver axle or the 90-93 driver axle, i'm saying this because i bought a 90-93 teg half axle and apparently a 90-93 driver axle did not work i had to opt for a slightly shorter 86-89 teg driver axle, but these half shafts are easily avaiable so dont bother getting the "completely changer over swap" just for that, also like someone else said, the axles you get with the "complete change over" are only worth trading in for a core charge, cuz they're garbage!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jacoop86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">alsothe y1 was the only tranny (out of y1, s1, j1) that had optional lsd:</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is false as i have an S1 tranny with the OEM LSD, this i got from HMO, i can post pics if you'd like. And i've got the shittiest final drive honda has ever made to prove it.
i say this all since i JUST got done with a swap just a few months ago and i'm actually selling it for other plans with my chassis.
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (pr3d)
I just got my complete changer over from HMO. I was really pleased with how clean the engine was. I'm sure they spray them down and all but it was awesome and everything started right up. I did have to get Hasport shift linkage b/c the linkage that comes with the complete change over doesn't work with the hasport mounts but that's normal. All in all I really liked dealing with them.
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (jacoop86)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jacoop86 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know which is true, if you can use the 89 teg axle for y1/sh3 or if the 86-89 Integra axle with the 90-93 Integra inner joint is correct. best bet is probably raxles or hasport to make sure its right.
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Your best (easiest) bet is to go to a local yard and pick up a 90-93 integra halfshaft (~$50), then go to Advanced or Autozone and buy a pair of axles for 90-93 integra w/out abs for about $90 a piece. They have a lifetime guarantee which is nice... but don't assume they won't break though, I exchange an axle roughly every 6 months to a year depending on how hard I drive my car.
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Your best (easiest) bet is to go to a local yard and pick up a 90-93 integra halfshaft (~$50), then go to Advanced or Autozone and buy a pair of axles for 90-93 integra w/out abs for about $90 a piece. They have a lifetime guarantee which is nice... but don't assume they won't break though, I exchange an axle roughly every 6 months to a year depending on how hard I drive my car.
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Re: HMotorsonline: Complete changeover or no??? Swap parts? Please Help (jdm91CrxSi)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm91CrxSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my friend has a b16a2 in his rex and i have a ZC and i walk him go ZC love</TD></TR></TABLE>Come on down to Charleston, so I can show you some B16a1 lovin. expletive a ZC.
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So just to clarify:
The 90-93 Integra half shaft WILL work in a Y1 transmission?
I just bought both 90-93 integra axles and I have a Y1 transmission, need to know if I should get a half shaft also.
The 90-93 Integra half shaft WILL work in a Y1 transmission?
I just bought both 90-93 integra axles and I have a Y1 transmission, need to know if I should get a half shaft also.
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well OBVIOUSLY the creator of this thread is SET on getting a b-series if he's gone to the extent of inquiring which specific package to get. Your comment on how your zc makes some other b16 "walk" is garbage to begin with. Thanks for clarifying nothing. Don't be offended by anyone actually mocking what you said, i'll have to say you were asking for a reply like such. Also, you expect to sum up the whole debate how zc's are better the b16's with a measly sentence like "my friend has a b16a2 in his rex and i have a ZC and i walk him go ZC love" wow you must've really had him thinking and contemplate why he's getting a b16 cuz you know just cuz you achieved a victory over a b16a2 without any actual info on the race and any other known variables. Good job you def. got him thinking. Seriously, i think you deserve a cookie and if you were closer i swear i'd bake you a cake to go with it.
</TD></TR></TABLE>well OBVIOUSLY the creator of this thread is SET on getting a b-series if he's gone to the extent of inquiring which specific package to get. Your comment on how your zc makes some other b16 "walk" is garbage to begin with. Thanks for clarifying nothing. Don't be offended by anyone actually mocking what you said, i'll have to say you were asking for a reply like such. Also, you expect to sum up the whole debate how zc's are better the b16's with a measly sentence like "my friend has a b16a2 in his rex and i have a ZC and i walk him go ZC love" wow you must've really had him thinking and contemplate why he's getting a b16 cuz you know just cuz you achieved a victory over a b16a2 without any actual info on the race and any other known variables. Good job you def. got him thinking. Seriously, i think you deserve a cookie and if you were closer i swear i'd bake you a cake to go with it.
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For the how much power can a stock LSD take question.
The answer: Alot, if it's in good shape. But for an old *** cable tranny, it's probably worn out a bit. I've seen them take 550whp, seen them blow up with 200whp. Stock honda trannies can take ALOT of beating and alot of power, more then likely your driveshaft will give out before your tranny does.
The answer: Alot, if it's in good shape. But for an old *** cable tranny, it's probably worn out a bit. I've seen them take 550whp, seen them blow up with 200whp. Stock honda trannies can take ALOT of beating and alot of power, more then likely your driveshaft will give out before your tranny does.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pr3d »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
this is false as i have an S1 tranny with the OEM LSD, this i got from HMO, i can post pics if you'd like. And i've got the shittiest final drive honda has ever made to prove it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So the only 2 trannies with OEM LSD are the Y1 and S1 and not the J1? And judging by your post it seems the Y1 is best.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by N1ghtM0nkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So just to clarify:
The 90-93 Integra half shaft WILL work in a Y1 transmission?
I just bought both 90-93 integra axles and I have a Y1 transmission, need to know if I should get a half shaft also.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would like to know this also. It seems to me the best tranny to get with the OEM LSD is the Y1 and I would like to keep it simple with 90-93 integra axles on both sides with an integra half shaft. So if all the 90-93 integra parts work on this I am ready to buy!
this is false as i have an S1 tranny with the OEM LSD, this i got from HMO, i can post pics if you'd like. And i've got the shittiest final drive honda has ever made to prove it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So the only 2 trannies with OEM LSD are the Y1 and S1 and not the J1? And judging by your post it seems the Y1 is best.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by N1ghtM0nkey »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So just to clarify:
The 90-93 Integra half shaft WILL work in a Y1 transmission?
I just bought both 90-93 integra axles and I have a Y1 transmission, need to know if I should get a half shaft also.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would like to know this also. It seems to me the best tranny to get with the OEM LSD is the Y1 and I would like to keep it simple with 90-93 integra axles on both sides with an integra half shaft. So if all the 90-93 integra parts work on this I am ready to buy!
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yea...stay away from the S1 tranny it came with the 4.400 final drive, i mean dont avoid it like a disease but for the american roads i def. wouldn't suggest it. like if i get on the highway i dont ever downshift anymore if i need to pass or anything...cuz at 70mph i'm almost at 4500rpm, depending on what kinda driving you're doing, city driving might yield better results when gas mileage is considered..