I just mailed my Shift 2 piece suit back yesterday to get the next largest size.

Today at work I got an unexpected $700 bonus check.

Should I pay the extra $300 for a TZ-1 Jacket and alpinestars race pants?

Or just stick with the Shift suit?

I'm a confused individual, sorry.

 

Are you returning your suit or exchanging it?

I don't know if you can return it unless you are buying your 2-peice from the same guys.

I would probably stick with the 1 peice unless you don't have a jacket already.

 

The Shift suit that I am "Exchanging" is a 2 piece already.

I am buying the Alpinestars from the same company.

Another thought thats entering my mind is if I buy the TZ-1 Jacket and a pair of Alpinestars Track Pants...seperate...the Jacket will be cut longer so I can wear it with jeans when I'm just putsin down to the gym or something.

Where as my Shift 2 piece has a pretty freakin short jacket since its meant to be with the pants it comes with.

Plus I have always freaking loved how the TZ-1 jacket looks.....stupid reason, but eh.

**edit** I do have a jacket now, but its textile (alterego)

 

sounds like you have made your mind up already.

Just do it.

 

Lets base this decision on protection, breathability, functionailty and longevity vs the price difference of $300.

Then what?

 

It sounds like the TZ1 has more in its favor than the Shift - the looks and length. And to be honest, if you don't like how it looks, are you going to ware (sorry, I couldn't resist...I know I know...it's wear...) it?

 

whichever has more perforation. The TZ-1.. i don't think has much at all.

 

I've heard the Shift does breath well but I don't know much about the TZ-1 or track pants.

I like how the shift suit looks, don't get me wrong...I just like the TZ-1 a bit better.

Also the track pants come with pucks...the Shift suit does not.

 

When i bought my shift suit personally at the MOtostrno, the owner (Joe) told me specifically that the Shift suit is a better deal to the Alpinestars, he said feature wise pretty much the same, and u just cant beat the price of the Shift suit. Thats his words

 

hmmmmm, food for thought no doubt.

Thanks.

 

I have the Tz-1 2 piece. It gets hot in the summer when you stop, as long as you are moving at a decent pace its not bad. It has a much more aggresive shape than the shift suit since its an actual race suit compared to a supermoto suit. Personally, i would take the one that fits my body better.

side note there are a few new shift "track suits" http://www.motostrano-store.com/shlesu.html just something to consider.

 

i wouldt waste any money ona 2pc suit...get a 1pc

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ngng &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i wouldt waste any money ona 2pc suit...get a 1pc</TD></TR></TABLE>
why? I'm actually genuinely curious.

 

Rednas,

Does the TZ-1 Jacket from the 2 piece suit fit well by itself? Meaning is it cut shorter than usual because its a part of a 2 piece suit?

THanks.

 

A 1piece will hold up better in a crash than a 2piece. There is one less point of stress for a 1piece. The 2piece is held together by a full circumference zipper.

All things considered, the most important aspect of leathers is that they fit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Rednas,

Does the TZ-1 Jacket from the 2 piece suit fit well by itself? Meaning is it cut shorter than usual because its a part of a 2 piece suit?

THanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The jacket fits me well by itself, but i cannot remember the last time i wore it alone. It is not cut shorter because when i purchased mine i tried the jacket alone before i looked into the suit and they both ended up in the same place and fit the same I assume they are identical.

 

Gracias.

 

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why? I'm actually genuinely curious.</TD></TR></TABLE>

because there is less that can blow out in a crash, ive seen 2 pc suits just TEAR apart and rash all over a persons back, sides, legs (side zip suit).

yeah...not my cup of tea

 

but for us skinny and unproportionate people, sometimes it either comes down to 2 piece or going custom.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ngng &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">because there is less that can blow out in a crash, ive seen 2 pc suits just TEAR apart and rash all over a persons back, sides, legs (side zip suit).

yeah...not my cup of tea</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, this sounds a little extreme. The top half of a 2-piece suit is a jacket....just like any other stand alone jacket. I don't think I've ever heard of someone going down in a decent leather jacket and having it just "tear" apart. So I don't see how this could happen any more often than a 1 piece.

And the pants....side zip suit? I don't believe I know what you're talking about.

Anyone know the difference between the Alpinestars TZ-1 suit and the GPU????

 

The weakest link in the chain, so to speak, of your 2piece suit would be the zipper attachment. Even a full circumference zipper would be weaker than just plain ol' leather.

 

Two piece is fine on the streets when you only push yourself 70-80% and maybe occasionally up to 90%. But on a track, when you're pushing 90-110%, the inevitable is gonna happen. And it'll happen a lot. Why would you risk it knowing that you'll eventually take a few spills? And after investing all that money into a 2pc suit, if it breaks apart at the zipper on your 1st or 2nd spill, you'll probably never want to use it again and you'll invest more money into 1pc. Just get the 1pc from the beginning. btw, a lot of trackday events won't even let you wear a 2pc. And no race event will ever let you wear a 2pc.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hybridcrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, this sounds a little extreme. The top half of a 2-piece suit is a jacket....just like any other stand alone jacket. I don't think I've ever heard of someone going down in a decent leather jacket and having it just "tear" apart. So I don't see how this could happen any more often than a 1 piece.

And the pants....side zip suit? I don't believe I know what you're talking about.

Anyone know the difference between the Alpinestars TZ-1 suit and the GPU????</TD></TR></TABLE>

fyi, the tz-1 and gpu suits have been discontinued, or at least according to the parts unlimited catalogue, so you might be able to find it cheap. alpinestars cheapest current suit is the stage.
after putting some thought into it, that example ngng gave does sound a bit extreme. i would imagine, if the suit fit like it should and the quality of the suit is at least decent, the likelihood of the suit ripping apart at the zipper like that should be slim, unless he's going in excess of 180mph or something. if the zippers are reinforced with good stitching, it should be no more prone than any other seam to come apart, if not LESS likely to occur since the zippers are under a layer of leather. none of what has said so far is enough evidence for me to decide against 2 pieces at the moment, but at least now i'll be more conscious about making sure the stitching that attaches the zipper is of the highest quality.

 

I highly doubt that the stitching will rip apart. As a matter of fact, I probably wouldn't even zip the two pieces together on a regular Sunday ride. But the less chance of a snag, the better. That's when a 1pc will pay dividends.

 

I also dont believe that a 2 piece suit is so fragile compared to a 1 piece. I do acknowledge that a 1 piece is more likely to stand up to a severe accident better than a 2 piece but i dont think that the difference is as much as some of the posters make it seem, if so they would have been modified so that the jacket and pants were better attached to each other if not completely eliminated.