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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:00 AM
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Default Auto Racing helemet on street?

I know I can't ware a motorcycle helmet on a SCCA event or any auto racing events.

But can I ware my Bell M2 helemet on a motorcycle on the street? My helmet has Snell 2000 rating and DOT approved.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:05 AM
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ahhhhh... no
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahhhhh... no</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why not? Is there really a grave difference? I think you can wear your motorcycle helmet for road racing but not vice versa. Correct me if I am wrong.


Modified by Newk at 5:07 PM 3/7/2006
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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I guess you can do what ever you like
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Newk &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Why not? Is there really a grave difference? I think you can were your motorcycle helmet for road racing but not vice versa. Correct me if I am wrong. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Actually, you can not ware a bike helmet for road racing. It dosen't have fire retardent material.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess you can do what ever you like </TD></TR></TABLE>

Would it be legal though...
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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purely from a legal stand point I would assume so... specially with a dot exposed, although I have NEVER heard of anyone ever being checked. there is a motorcycle version m2 you know? or was anyway years ago, the main point I think Is have you compared the weight of a car helmet to that of a motorcycle helmet?
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Each is designed for different type of accidents/impacts and therefore protect your head differently. Don't be cheap and just buy two.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VWkila &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would it be legal though...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Depends on your state's laws regarding helmets.

Oh and it's spelled wear, not ware.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MSchu &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">purely from a legal stand point I would assume so... specially with a dot exposed, although I have NEVER heard of anyone ever being checked. there is a motorcycle version m2 you know? or was anyway years ago, the main point I think Is have you compared the weight of a car helmet to that of a motorcycle helmet?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just need a helmet for the safety course. They requirre you to bring a helmet. Once I finish the course and I really decide that a motorcycle riding is a thing for me, I'll buy myself proper motocycling gear and a motorcycle.

I just need a helmet for the course.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Apocalypse &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Oh and it's spelled wear, not ware.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VWkila &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just need a helmet for the safety course. They requirre you to bring a helmet. Once I finish the course and I really decide that a motorcycle riding is a thing for me, I'll buy myself proper motocycling gear and a motorcycle.

I just need a helmet for the course. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you're taking a safety course, obviously you plan on riding in the future. Deal with the inevitable. You can pick up a cheap, motorcycle helmet that's DOT approved for under $100. Look into HJC, Z1R, etc. BTW, independent tests showed that the Z1R helmet is one of the safest helmets to wear.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:09 AM
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i currently use my Bell Dominator helmet for when i do the minimal amount of riding that i do now. i just cut off the lip at the bottom with a dremel with a glass bit, cut and reglued the rubber strip on the bottom and its all good. i have had a ton of auto helmets and they are usually pretty heavy but the dominator is extremely light. although when i do buy my new bike i am buying a brand new hayden laguna replica.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:31 AM
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yes you can. the main difference is that the car helmet is made out of flame retardant material and has also been tested for impact againts a roll cage.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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I wore my auto Bell M2 to MSF training and immediately bought an Aria Quantum afterward. The Auto helmet is heavy and doesn't vent well. The shape is also wrong so I was buffetting heavily at higher speed.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jasper_db1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wore my auto Bell M2 to MSF training and immediately bought an Aria Quantum afterward. The Auto helmet is heavy and doesn't vent well. The shape is also wrong so I was buffetting heavily at higher speed. </TD></TR></TABLE>


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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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Thanks guys! I'll buy an MOTO helmet as soon as I'm done with the MSF!
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Racer28 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i currently use my Bell Dominator helmet for when i do the minimal amount of riding that i do now. i just cut off the lip at the bottom with a dremel with a glass bit, cut and reglued the rubber strip on the bottom and its all good. i have had a ton of auto helmets and they are usually pretty heavy but the dominator is extremely light. although when i do buy my new bike i am buying a brand new hayden laguna replica.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm pretty sure that you would know this, and also I assume you don't care (not that I do either), BUT...

Modification voids the ratings.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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yea but if you know what part i am talking about the you would know that it wouldnt affect the structural integrity of the helmet. lots of people modify their helemts in racing. almost all oval drivers put a rivet with a ring on it on the side of their helmet to take up the slack in theri neck when making left turns all day. it is a pretty common practice and bell helmets sells the kits to do it.

so yes modifying a helmet is dangerous and can void the ratings but if you know what you are doing and have experience doing it then it can be done safely and correctly.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Racer28 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> almost all oval drivers put a rivet with a ring on it on the side of their helmet to take up the slack in theri neck when making left turns all day. it is a pretty common practice and bell helmets sells the kits to do it.
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That "ring" is for a head and neck restraint (HANS), not to "take up slack" Its not put in with a rivet either......
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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Auto helmets do not have very good peripheral vision compared to their MC-specific brethren.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 02:42 PM
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any helmet's better than this:

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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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I asked you to stop posting my wheelie pictures... I dont want a bad rep , and That would be a negative on the pants ghostrider
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .RJ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That "ring" is for a head and neck restraint (HANS), not to "take up slack" Its not put in with a rivet either...... </TD></TR></TABLE>

yourself a few times. the HANS wasnt invented for commercial purchase and nobody was using it for the times i am talking about. and the rivet has a d ring on it and you hook the lanyard that goes around your shoulder and under your arm and up to your helmet. its so that you dont get "noodle neck". i has nothing to do with saftey like the HANS does. please dont try be mister smart guy on this subject. your knowledge obviously doesnt get past the cover of racer magazine and the reports that mike massaro has on sportscenter. a few more times.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 05:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Racer28 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> your knowledge obviously doesnt get past the cover of racer magazine and the reports that mike massaro has on sportscenter. </TD></TR></TABLE>

as much racing as rj does, i would think he has ample knowledge on the subject.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Racer28 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and the rivet has a d ring on it and you hook the lanyard that goes around your shoulder and under your arm and up to your helmet. </TD></TR></TABLE>

So its a hutchens device - another type of head & neck restraint... heh, "noodle neck" thats funny.

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