06 si vs. 06 type s
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NCNBPDC5 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think they are about the same speed wise in a straight line
but the Si woudl own a RSX on the track...better suspension and transmission</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep, you're right. I entered my 06 Si in the Houston Autocross competition yesterday...and my friend also entered his 06 RSX-S. In a straight line, the RSX-S might be slightly faster (only a little bit, almost not noticeable). In the Autocross course, however, my Si was dominant. The limited slip differential really proved its worth, allowing me to take corners at speeds and Gs that others couldn't. He and I were the only 06 Si/RSX at the event, and we both got lots of attention from the competition.
However, I got a little more attention when my Si opened up and starting screaming around the track.
but the Si woudl own a RSX on the track...better suspension and transmission</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yep, you're right. I entered my 06 Si in the Houston Autocross competition yesterday...and my friend also entered his 06 RSX-S. In a straight line, the RSX-S might be slightly faster (only a little bit, almost not noticeable). In the Autocross course, however, my Si was dominant. The limited slip differential really proved its worth, allowing me to take corners at speeds and Gs that others couldn't. He and I were the only 06 Si/RSX at the event, and we both got lots of attention from the competition.
However, I got a little more attention when my Si opened up and starting screaming around the track.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 02rsx-s »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I wanna know STOCK which car has a faster 60' 1/4 mile 1/8 mile and in personal opnions which handels better and is more moddable.</TD></TR></TABLE>
1/4 time depends largely on driving ability. Si handles much better. It's suspension is a little more rigid. RSX is more "mod-able" (right now anyway...only b/c the Si is a new model). Give it a few months and the Si will have a list of parts a mile long. For me, deciding on which to buy came down to a simple comparison...Do I want a car that is strictly a "performance-based" racer...or do I want a similar, more refined (not quite as edgy - performance wise) car with a nicer interior.
If you want performance...go with the Si.
If you want comfort...go with the RSX
1/4 time depends largely on driving ability. Si handles much better. It's suspension is a little more rigid. RSX is more "mod-able" (right now anyway...only b/c the Si is a new model). Give it a few months and the Si will have a list of parts a mile long. For me, deciding on which to buy came down to a simple comparison...Do I want a car that is strictly a "performance-based" racer...or do I want a similar, more refined (not quite as edgy - performance wise) car with a nicer interior.
If you want performance...go with the Si.
If you want comfort...go with the RSX
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Yep, you're right. I entered my 06 Si in the Houston Autocross competition yesterday...and my friend also entered his 06 RSX-S. In a straight line, the RSX-S might be slightly faster (only a little bit, almost not noticeable). In the Autocross course, however, my Si was dominant. The limited slip differential really proved its worth, allowing me to take corners at speeds and Gs that others couldn't. He and I were the only 06 Si/RSX at the event, and we both got lots of attention from the competition.
However, I got a little more attention when my Si opened up and starting screaming around the track.
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Unless both of you are national caliber drivers, then remeber the old motto:
Autox is 95% driver and 5% car.
And since when does a LSD allow more G's than an open-diff car? G's are determined by a couple of major factors, none which include a limited slip.
Yep, you're right. I entered my 06 Si in the Houston Autocross competition yesterday...and my friend also entered his 06 RSX-S. In a straight line, the RSX-S might be slightly faster (only a little bit, almost not noticeable). In the Autocross course, however, my Si was dominant. The limited slip differential really proved its worth, allowing me to take corners at speeds and Gs that others couldn't. He and I were the only 06 Si/RSX at the event, and we both got lots of attention from the competition.
However, I got a little more attention when my Si opened up and starting screaming around the track.
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Unless both of you are national caliber drivers, then remeber the old motto:
Autox is 95% driver and 5% car.
And since when does a LSD allow more G's than an open-diff car? G's are determined by a couple of major factors, none which include a limited slip.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless both of you are national caliber drivers, then remeber the old motto:
Autox is 95% driver and 5% car.
And since when does a LSD allow more G's than an open-diff car? G's are determined by a couple of major factors, none which include a limited slip.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, I've gotta agree with Todd on this one. There are a number of hardcore autocrossers on this board, coryb8199... You really need to make sure you know more about autocrossing and how it entails more than drag racing before making claims like these.
Autox is 95% driver and 5% car.
And since when does a LSD allow more G's than an open-diff car? G's are determined by a couple of major factors, none which include a limited slip.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, I've gotta agree with Todd on this one. There are a number of hardcore autocrossers on this board, coryb8199... You really need to make sure you know more about autocrossing and how it entails more than drag racing before making claims like these.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And since when does a LSD allow more G's than an open-diff car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It allows enough of a difference to bump a car beyond STS...
The main thing that comes to my fairly-inexperienced-mind is that it'll let you get on the gas sooner at corner exit. I had to be careful to not spin halfway to the next turn on my EP with its stock diff; I'm hoping to put in a limited slip sometime this year.
It allows enough of a difference to bump a car beyond STS...
The main thing that comes to my fairly-inexperienced-mind is that it'll let you get on the gas sooner at corner exit. I had to be careful to not spin halfway to the next turn on my EP with its stock diff; I'm hoping to put in a limited slip sometime this year.
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It allows enough of a difference to bump a car beyond STS...
The main thing that comes to my fairly-inexperienced-mind is that it'll let you get on the gas sooner at corner exit. I had to be careful to not spin halfway to the next turn on my EP with its stock diff; I'm hoping to put in a limited slip sometime this year.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what I was getting at...my mistake for poor wording. The point that I was trying to make is...I was able to stay on the gas a little more through some of the turns.
It allows enough of a difference to bump a car beyond STS...
The main thing that comes to my fairly-inexperienced-mind is that it'll let you get on the gas sooner at corner exit. I had to be careful to not spin halfway to the next turn on my EP with its stock diff; I'm hoping to put in a limited slip sometime this year.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's what I was getting at...my mistake for poor wording. The point that I was trying to make is...I was able to stay on the gas a little more through some of the turns.
Peak g-force is not quite the same as being able to power out of a turn earlier.
I completely agree that a LSD helps times in autox, but it helps times by (quick-and-dirty explanation) maximizing traction on acceleration and how soon you can apply the gas.
I completely agree that a LSD helps times in autox, but it helps times by (quick-and-dirty explanation) maximizing traction on acceleration and how soon you can apply the gas.
With the LSD versus the non-LSD tranny featured in the RSX its possible to create the same times in both cars. And with the new SI I am sure qwith a simple mod like a CAI its possible to be mid-14's if not lower. There are a few 05-06's pulling off low 14's with just a CAI.
damn shame they didn't give the RSX the LSD
both are badass cars from the same family....if you're gonna choose, get what looks, drives better for you...basically, get what FITS you and you won't be disappointed
both are badass cars from the same family....if you're gonna choose, get what looks, drives better for you...basically, get what FITS you and you won't be disappointed
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both are badass cars from the same family....if you're gonna choose, get what looks, drives better for you...basically, get what FITS you and you won't be disappointed
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TRUTH!!!
both are badass cars from the same family....if you're gonna choose, get what looks, drives better for you...basically, get what FITS you and you won't be disappointed
</TD></TR></TABLE>TRUTH!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Caveman74 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would you rather have ONE wheel spinning or TWO for traction?
Race cars have POSI and Limited slip for a reason.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah but not everyone is looking to race when purchasing a vehicle...all of my previous vehicles didn't have LSD and did just fine performance-wise.
Race cars have POSI and Limited slip for a reason.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah but not everyone is looking to race when purchasing a vehicle...all of my previous vehicles didn't have LSD and did just fine performance-wise.
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If you want performance...go with the Si.
If you want comfort...go with the RSX</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think thats a matter of opinion. The Si is extremely comfortable for me, and amazingly rides really smoothe, while really tight at the same time. The seats aren't as comfortable as something like the new accords, but they are still very nice seats.
Also, I thought the Si and the Type-S shared the same tranny?
If you want performance...go with the Si.
If you want comfort...go with the RSX</TD></TR></TABLE>
I think thats a matter of opinion. The Si is extremely comfortable for me, and amazingly rides really smoothe, while really tight at the same time. The seats aren't as comfortable as something like the new accords, but they are still very nice seats.
Also, I thought the Si and the Type-S shared the same tranny?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Demonis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, I thought the Si and the Type-S shared the same tranny? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Almost -- besides the Si's LSD, the ratios are the same except for 6th. The FG2 has the slightly taller 6th gear originally used in the TSX.
One drawback about an LSD that I've learned would be, say, trying to go up a slushy/snowy slope, like a driveway that hasn't been shoveled yet. The idea is that under such extra-slippery conditions, both wheels will end up spinning if you're not really careful, and the front of the car will start to slide sideways. With an open diff, only one wheel would probably spin, which leaves the non-spinning wheel available to maintain lateral grip and keep the front end from sliding around.
Almost -- besides the Si's LSD, the ratios are the same except for 6th. The FG2 has the slightly taller 6th gear originally used in the TSX.
One drawback about an LSD that I've learned would be, say, trying to go up a slushy/snowy slope, like a driveway that hasn't been shoveled yet. The idea is that under such extra-slippery conditions, both wheels will end up spinning if you're not really careful, and the front of the car will start to slide sideways. With an open diff, only one wheel would probably spin, which leaves the non-spinning wheel available to maintain lateral grip and keep the front end from sliding around.
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I think thats a matter of opinion. The Si is extremely comfortable for me, and amazingly rides really smoothe, while really tight at the same time. The seats aren't as comfortable as something like the new accords, but they are still very nice seats.
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Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my new Si and am very pleased with everything about it, including its comfort level...all I'm saying is that I drove my friend's RSX-S over the weekend, and it was much more plush. It's obvious that Acura spent a little extra time in making sure that this car had that extra touch of "luxury" that the Si doesn't have. After all, how else could they justify charging 3-5K more for essentially the same car? lol
I think thats a matter of opinion. The Si is extremely comfortable for me, and amazingly rides really smoothe, while really tight at the same time. The seats aren't as comfortable as something like the new accords, but they are still very nice seats.
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Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my new Si and am very pleased with everything about it, including its comfort level...all I'm saying is that I drove my friend's RSX-S over the weekend, and it was much more plush. It's obvious that Acura spent a little extra time in making sure that this car had that extra touch of "luxury" that the Si doesn't have. After all, how else could they justify charging 3-5K more for essentially the same car? lol
My primary qualm about the fg2 is that it's going to take hondata quite some time to crack the drive by wire. They are still working on getting full functionality out of the old generation of ECU's. Drive by wire adds another dimension to the ecu's complexity, not to mention the new ECU's use both a MAF and MAP.
Stock for stock, given that the rsx-s is lighter, has a smaller front bar & bigger rear bar, the RSX-S SHOULD be a hair quicker. The LSD helps a ton, but having a more neutral car helps more.
Stock for stock, given that the rsx-s is lighter, has a smaller front bar & bigger rear bar, the RSX-S SHOULD be a hair quicker. The LSD helps a ton, but having a more neutral car helps more.
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Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my new Si and am very pleased with everything about it, including its comfort level...all I'm saying is that I drove my friend's RSX-S over the weekend, and it was much more plush. It's obvious that Acura spent a little extra time in making sure that this car had that extra touch of "luxury" that the Si doesn't have. After all, how else could they justify charging 3-5K more for essentially the same car? lol
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3-5k?! Most of the prices I've seen people pay for the new Si was around what I payed for my Type S.
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE my new Si and am very pleased with everything about it, including its comfort level...all I'm saying is that I drove my friend's RSX-S over the weekend, and it was much more plush. It's obvious that Acura spent a little extra time in making sure that this car had that extra touch of "luxury" that the Si doesn't have. After all, how else could they justify charging 3-5K more for essentially the same car? lol
</TD></TR></TABLE>3-5k?! Most of the prices I've seen people pay for the new Si was around what I payed for my Type S.
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3-5k?! Most of the prices I've seen people pay for the new Si was around what I payed for my Type S. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, unfortunately you're right...although, they didn't HAVE to pay that much. Most people paid for "convenience" at their local dealer, rather than shopping around more. Not me! I paid MSRP. My previous quote was referring to MSRPs for both cars.
3-5k?! Most of the prices I've seen people pay for the new Si was around what I payed for my Type S. </TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah, unfortunately you're right...although, they didn't HAVE to pay that much. Most people paid for "convenience" at their local dealer, rather than shopping around more. Not me! I paid MSRP. My previous quote was referring to MSRPs for both cars.






