After many failed attempts to install it myself, I finally gave up and brought it to a friend's shop to get the job done. Here's the dilly...

Coming out of the shop with both windows down and my back seat down to supply space for my stock catback, it was obvious that my car was A LOT louder. I was at WOT in 1st gear and I just couldn't take it. Maybe I'm just not used to an aftermarket exhaust and on top of that, I was in a grouchy mood and feeling dizzy from not eating all day. I stopped at a parking lot to install the silencer on and the difference was like night and day!

W/Silencer
-Idle sound when the car is cold has a deep but almost unoticeable humm but once it's warmed up, it sounds like stock.
-Partial throttle is when the Type One presents itself. It's a deep but semi-subdued growl but once you get up in the upper RPM rages, the deep growl goes away for some reason and it sounds like stock.
-At WOT, it sounds ALMOST like stock! I'm not sure how the TypeOne keeps itself quiet but I'm glad it does.

At first, I was having seconds thoughts with the system. I was almost ready to sell it and buy a Mugen Sports Exhaust. But after getting some food in my stomach, putting the seats back up, and another test drive, I decided that it wasn't THAT loud. I don't think you'll catch me running it without the silencer though.

Ask away if you have any questions.

 

Do you think you could post some pics, just wanna see some other pictures of the exhaust. Just different angles then the ones previously posted

 

Pics are always welcome...

 

Which sounds better Type One or Spoon?
I the Spoon N-1 sound myself!

 

Is it louder than the Apexi N1--without the silencer that is?
Is your car lowered? Are you afraid it might scrape?

 

Glad you finally got the cat back on!

Thanks,
Victor Perri II

 

your silencer will be your best friend, trust me (tanabe RM here)

 

I'll try to borrow a friend's digital camera to take pics. In my honest opinion, I think it's the best looking aftermarket mufller out there. I wanted something that didn't get any attention just by how it looks and the TypeOne is totally sleeper styles. It mounts flush with the rear bumper valence and the tip is a subtle 90mm.

I dont remember what the Spoon N1 sounds like but I can tell you that the TypeOne has a very deep sound. It's not the typical aftermarket exhaust that sounds like a bunch of mad bees that just got kicked in the nads.

I'm not sure what the Apex N1 unit sounds like so I can't help you out there. As for scraping, I have no worries. It's not any lower than the stock muffler.

 

This is funny, people spend all this money for the super duper high flow cat back 2.5 inch yada yada only to figure out it is way to loud and they cant tolerate it. What do they do, they stick the silencer in which necks down to 1 inch which defeats the whole purpose. Yeah sure uncork it for the track but that will get tiresome after awhile, trust me I've been there, meanwhile you drive this thing on the street with no more improvements then when it was stock. Thats why I did this...
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=150678

Strait through muffler, big can, lots of packing, high flow, extremly quiet. This exhaust is completly quiet on the freeway and has a nice mellow tone when on the gas. No hastle from the popo. Good performance.
Not trying to flame just giving you a different perspective. If you can deal with the loudness more power to ya (pun intended)

 

I installed my TypeOne yesterday and it is definately not as loud as the Apexi N1. Great review by the way, I feel exactly the same way. After install i felt it was loud, but after a long drive I liked it. The silencer will come in handy!!!!! I give the TypeOne exhaust system .

Oh yeah, the tip compliments my black car really well, I just love the blue and purple!!!!!!!! Ill post some pics tommorrow after I give my baby a bath.




[Modified by nighthawkR618, 1:25 AM 3/31/2002]

 

How does the silencer work?

 

Insurance gave me $380 to buy myself a muffler so the only out-of-pocket expense for me was the b-pipe. Even though my reasoning for buying the TypeOne system was for improved airflow, I don't mind using the silencer even if it "degrades" performance. At least I have that adjustability of taking it off for more umph. What I've taken from reading exhaust topics related to the Type R is that if you don't get an N-1 style exhaust, you're not going to make any extra power. It's probably not applicable to the GS-R since their exhaust systems are more choked than that of the Type R. It doesn't make sense to me if I got an Apex WS or Tanabe Hyper when I could get a TypeOne w/silencer that gives the same power as the steath catbacks I just mentioned as well as have it sound pretty close to stock.

My car is black too and it does look sweet. It's weird but the muffler is more noticeable when you have the silencer in there.

 

Nice review. Is the Type One a full 2.5" exhaust? Also, is the system much lighter than stock system? I just recently saw pics of the Buddy Club Spec III exhaust, looks amazing and weighs 14 lbs..

 

is this the full titanium system or just the titanium tip?

 

The TypeOne axleback was definitely lighter that the stock muffler. I'm not sure about if there's a difference between the b-pipes.

I didn't know they had a FULL (catback) Ti system. I thought the b-pipe only comes in stainless steel while you get a choice of an all Ti axleback or stainless steel axleback with Ti tip.

What the silencer does is it virtually reduces the outlet (tip) size from 90mm to a size significantly smaller (I don't know the exact measurement of the silencer outlet is). Pretend your mouth is the the tip. The loudness of the sound you can make is dependent on how wide you open your mouth.


[Modified by CPR, 1:10 PM 3/31/2002]

 

i guess its Axleback. Guess my choice of exhaust just got easier...

 

You cant even compare the WS to the Hyper. WS is a baffled muffler the tanabe is strait through- that would be an apple's to orange's comparison. The point I'm trying to make is it doesn't matter if it's an N1 style exhaust or not your exhaust is only going to flow as good as it's smallest point. You could have a 4 inch "B" pipe with a 1 inch silencer, guess what, it's going to flow like a one inch exhaust.

I agree, the ability to remove the silencer is nice- for awhile. Thats what I thought when I purchased my Tanabe RM 2 years ago. I got tired of driving on the street with the silencer in and loss of power. I ended up just taking it out most of the time which frick'in drove me crazy. My GSR ran a 14.5 @96 MPH with the Tanabe RM and ran the same times with the Hyper, only I feel like driving the car more with the more quiet exhaust. Sure the Hyper doesn't have the Bling Bling factor as the type one but thats not a bad thing in my book. My GSR is alot more like your R than you think, besides the exhaust cant tell if it's passing through a N1 style muffler or not, it doesnt care as long as it gets out as efficeintly as possible.

The point I'm making is that your wrong, you wont be making the same power with the silencer in as compared to a strait through muffler like the Hyper, a baffled muffler like the WS maybe.

[Modified by TDCgs'R, 7:25 PM 3/31/2002]


[Modified by TDCgs'R, 7:27 PM 3/31/2002]

 

Guys, this just goes to show that everyones idea of "loud" is different. After we installed our first Type One, I reported that it was not "loud." I posted the MPEG for all to hear as well. I guess out of the exhausts I have heard and installed over the years, it is just not in the "loud" book, at least to me or the group that was there for the install. As far as N1 style or canisters go, it is easily the least obnoxious of the group. CPR is right, too, in describing its tone as deep rather than buzzy. For some clarifications on what is available:
Rear Section in SS w/ Ti Tip
Rear Section with Ti Canister and Tip
B Pipe in SS
Feel free to contact me if you need further assistance.

 

hmm...on your other post you say that your Hyper sounds non-existant on the highway, I doubt this is true. What makes it more quieter than any other oval muffler straight-thru piping exhaust? I've heard others and they don't sound non-existant on the highway at all.

 

If that is true, then there wouldn't be such a thing as a restriction. If you have a restriction of 2 inches at the cat flange, what's the point of increasing the diameter size after that point if it's not going to flow any better by doing so?

Many other factors could have contributed to this so I'm not going to touch that.

That's my bad. I thought the Hyper wasn't straight through judging from the look of the muffler. I didn't think it was possible to have a straight through system and have the exhaust remain quiet. All I want is for the TypeOne w/silencer not to perform worse than the stock Type R muffler. I guess I'll find out on the dyno.

 

sounds like a nice pick up to me, i have Apex N1 and love it........but i want a change though, i was thinking Kakimoto or ???????

 

You pick up most power from losing the restrictive factory muffler not necessarily the pipe diameter.

As far as testing on track. 4 runs made with Tanabe RM. Removed RM axle back, installed Hyper axle back (they use the same "B" pipe) made 4 more runs. Runs were within 2 tenths either way, actually the fastest run of the night was with the Hyper. It may not be as accurate as a dyno but I felt it was pretty consistant.

As far as a strait through being quiet you have to look at the size of the can. The bigger the canister the more sound absorption material the quieter the exhaust.




[Modified by TDCgs'R, 6:18 AM 4/1/2002]

 

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