anyone have any kill switch ideas (besides fuel pump) if so lets hear it

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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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Default anyone have any kill switch ideas (besides fuel pump) if so lets hear it

in my area alot of hondas get stolen and i dont want to loose another (i lost a crx already) i've been searchin and fuel kill is about the only one i could find.... so can someone please list some switch ideas?? everyone says the ign. (but i hear that ign. isnt wise) ecu kill switch (but would this be bad on my ecu?) if it's not bad then which wires do i tap into? please list some ideas.....i wanna make it real hard for a thief to steal my car!!


and i already have an alarm and detachable steering wheel (but i want more protection)


and any pics would help
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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All precautions you take will only keep honest, honest. You can't stop a criminal, but you can slow them down.

I have a battery kill switch.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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http://store.yahoo.com/imezak/1640.html = fantastic... usually like 60 bucks (google)

Saw a good demo and info on it. Tumbler lock, impossible to saw through, can't start the car without clutch down (put it on your clutch, and toss the wheel cover).

Not a pos like 'the club'.


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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phoenix_iii &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://store.yahoo.com/imezak/1640.html = fantastic... usually like 60 bucks (google)

Saw a good demo and info on it. Tumbler lock, impossible to saw through, can't start the car without clutch down (put it on your clutch, and toss the wheel cover).

Not a pos like 'the club'.


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damn, thats actually a nice idea. but yes, if u remove the clutch sensor, u can start the car without the clutch down, but just make sure its in neutral before you start it. All these anti theft devices are nice and all, but what exactly are they going to do when a theif just sais screw it and towes the car instead of trying to get in, and drive it away? but what scares me is how easy it is to jack someones $500 rims/tires
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:00 PM
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a garage best investment i havent made yet. however it is suprising the number of people i know who buy brand new cars and then let them sit out in the weather cause their garage is too full of ****.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:13 PM
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i have a half way kill switch .when i went auto to manual you have to jump 2 wires to start it by the key so i just hidthe wires under the console so i can unhook them and it wont start by the key.yes i know it can still be started but im just getting started..
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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Add a kill relay to the resistor box power or power to the injectors if you dont have a box, you could also wire a relay to the power for the ecu run the relay switchs to the alarm lead -negative output when disarmed- that way if the thief rips the alarm out there will be no negative trigger to the relay kills and your car wont have anything to start up if you need more info about relays goto http://www.the12volt.com good info
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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ttt, for new ideas
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:54 AM
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The Autolock is still fine even if the clutch down sensor is bypassed... can't shift without the clutch ENGAGED.

Anyway, another one I like is the Die-Hard Security battery. It has a keyless entry like remote. 'Locked' = output is 3V, enough to keep presets and clock, but not enough to turn over. Unlocked = regular output. This feature would require some one to bring a battery/jump your car (so forget the guy who just comes along with tools). That battery with the autolock = teh win.


As for the rims being stolen, find some custom security lug nuts and adapter, not just some generic (autozone), etc. Worth it price wise if you live in a risk area or have expensive wheels.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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Actually you can drive the car just fine with out a clutch with revmatching witch you should do anways, Trust me i know after my damn clutch cable broke about 10 miles from home
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 08:31 AM
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Yup, I drove my CRX for about 15 miles or so without using the clutch, damn clutch cable had snapped.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 08:44 AM
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wait the battery itself has a lock/unlock mode? its a good idea, i just havent heard of that. any pictures or links?
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 08:48 AM
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Yup, they tell you in HPDE's to learn that for that very reason. It isn't hard just sucks.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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(disclaimer - I have not done this / I have not seen anyone do this / I don't know if this will burn your starter relay)

Put a magnetic reed switch on the starter relay ground. It is one of those home alarm things which consists of two magnets (goes on the window/door). To complete circuit, you have to place the second magnet close to the one with the wires. (just make sure that its the right one - normally open/closed - I don't know which one)

I guess this does not help much - its just an idea.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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Gocrxgo

my car was towed...... i had a kill switch, alarm, and autolock. and they towed it, that or they spent the whole 6 hours i was in work, trying to figure out how to get it started.

*THE BEST ANTI THEFT TIP*

keep your car looking like ****, on steelies with nothing valuable in sight. it would help to put some fucked up mismatched paint fenders on your car too.

shitty car= not much worth buahahha!
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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wow alot of replies but not much help (alot of conversations) , i know kill switches wont gaurantee that my car wont get stolen (but it could detour a thief)


what kind of switches can be made?

-fuel(which is about the only i found info on)
- ignition (i hear this isnt a good idea, because thieves can bypass igns. as it is)
- ecu (but would this cause any damage to ecu/car?) if so which wire's and would it reset the ecu every time?


anyone have any other ideas of what i could tap into? i plan to do as many as i can (the more switches the longer it would take to figure out) and yes i know theres always the reply, that switchs arent tow-truck proof
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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three well hidden swithces would certianly deter a would be car theif. like gocrxgo said not all theives have a tow truck at their disposals. the thieves that would have a tow truck are the ones that run chop shops but are only looking for high priced items.

any thing to slow them down is your best bet, hell try even a quick release for your steerign wheel. if you are really paranoid dont go with a well known quick release company such as nrg get something jdm, off the top of my head i have no clue who else makes quick releases but they are ou there. i personally have an nrg planning on getting the lock plate also.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Relays can be your best friend

I rewired my broken sunroof switch as a starter kill. You have to hold the "open" position on the switch for the ignition to activate.

Also, I have a 91 cluster cover for my gsr gauges. I have an extra hazard switch as well. The extra hazard switch has to be pressed in for the 12v + main wire to even get voltage.

I'm a car stereo installer for a living. Ths **** is second nature to me. Any shop can do this for a small fee, and an alam isnt even needed.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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on the "afraid of wheels getting stolen" comment, get 3 of your buddies and invest in 4 different sets of wheel locks. A criminal 'could' still get them if they wanted to, but if I was a thief and I seen a rig with 4 different wheels locks I would move on and find the wheels somewhere else.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 04:52 PM
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Well here's an idea:
Get a GPS system and wire it seperate power from your car. Hide it really good, and hopefully you'll realize its been stolen before they do anything and find it, and you can not only get your car back, but take the pigs with ya and bust em!

Yeaph. GPS system is the best security system out there. It can help you get your car back even if thieves tow it. No matter where they take it to, you can most the time pinpoint it. And when you do, you have a choice of coming there and go it gangster's way or with police. Any other safety and security system out there only slow theives down, but won't catch them or get your car back as effective as GPS. Let's roll with the technology guys. If not, you can be like a cave man and guard your car with a club.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 05:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SloA$$ DA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">three well hidden swithces would certianly deter a would be car theif. like gocrxgo said not all theives have a tow truck at their disposals. the thieves that would have a tow truck are the ones that run chop shops but are only looking for high priced items.

any thing to slow them down is your best bet, hell try even a quick release for your steerign wheel. if you are really paranoid dont go with a well known quick release company such as nrg get something jdm, off the top of my head i have no clue who else makes quick releases but they are ou there. i personally have an nrg planning on getting the lock plate also. </TD></TR></TABLE>i already have a quick release, and a pager alarm (but i still need more security) where can you get a lock plate?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VegaS10 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Relays can be your best friend

I rewired my broken sunroof switch as a starter kill. You have to hold the "open" position on the switch for the ignition to activate.

Also, I have a 91 cluster cover for my gsr gauges. I have an extra hazard switch as well. The extra hazard switch has to be pressed in for the 12v + main wire to even get voltage.
I'm a car stereo installer for a living. Ths **** is second nature to me. Any shop can do this for a small fee, and an alam isnt even needed.</TD></TR></TABLE>now thats what im talkin bout! how can i wire a switch for a starter kill?(into another "stock" button) and around here you dont go to stereo/alarm shops (they will stil your car/stuff also<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PhantomEF9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">on the "afraid of wheels getting stolen" comment, get 3 of your buddies and invest in 4 different sets of wheel locks. A criminal 'could' still get them if they wanted to, but if I was a thief and I seen a rig with 4 different wheels locks I would move on and find the wheels somewhere else.</TD></TR></TABLE> thats a good idea, but what if you had to remove a wheel that you dont have the key for? (and the other buddy cant be reached)
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 06:26 PM
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hope none on here knows you. maybe just post ideas not what you have or are doing right now. just my .02
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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Man, it's really hard to explain how it's done with relays without diagrams. If ya think about it though, the sunroof switch is a "momentary" style switch. It only has/exchanges power when the button is held, or touched.

The hazard switch has power once it's pushed and holds it till it's released.

Do some reading up on relays and it'll come to you. I did my friends crx where it wont start unless you push in the cig lighter.

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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by erebunicrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hope none on here knows you. maybe just post ideas not what you have or are doing right now. just my .02</TD></TR></TABLE> yeah im not askin for personal info....i just wanna know how to make some switches(no need to post where you hide them)
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 07:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VegaS10 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Man, it's really hard to explain how it's done with relays without diagrams. If ya think about it though, the sunroof switch is a "momentary" style switch. It only has/exchanges power when the button is held, or touched.

The hazard switch has power once it's pushed and holds it till it's released.

Do some reading up on relays and it'll come to you. I did my friends crx where it wont start unless you push in the cig lighter.

</TD></TR></TABLE>yeah i've heard of that ...but this is why i wanna run alot of kills
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