okay so...I needed to launch in vtec but the factory limitter wouldn't let me rev past 5500 so it bogged and wheel hopped.

best of 14.7 at 95 mph. with a **** *** 2.4 60ft.

with a 95 mph trap the car has a couple 10ths left in it I think, its got intake, exhaust...

Let me guess, she needs to buy the reflash or k-pro to get rid of that limitter?
header and test pipe already on the way

this is an 2002 by the way.

 

I think you should work on traction before launching so high. I was able to cut 2.2 60 fts. with stockies launching at about 3500 rpms.

Wheel hop and tires seems to be your problem. Invest in a set of Energy Suspension Motor Mounts and some Hoosier Drag Radials or Falken tires. Get that 60 ft down and you will get some low 14's.

But to answer your question, yes she needs K-Pro to elimate or adjust the limiter.

 

get kpro

 

Does she race? Since she's the one who "needs" to buy the kpro?

 

VTEC will not engage while standing still, in fact I believe you have to be above 5 kilometers an hour for it to activate. Short of K-Pro you're not going to be able to launch in VTEC.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pushinlsteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay so...I needed to launch in vtec but the factory limitter wouldn't let me rev past 5500 so it bogged and wheel hopped.</TD></TR></TABLE>
if i was your gf i would kill you for that. 5.5k launch? wtf?

 

okay you obviously have never attained a good 60 ft on street tires.

in fact, launching low will stress more driveline parts than anything if you want to get technical, launching at a higher RPM and spinning is more essential as far as not damaging anything. Think about it, you launch too low, the clutch grabs, the tires grab, things are under more pressure. I'd rather launch real high and spin out of a launch feathering it, than launching too low, wheel hopping and breaking the motor mounts to ****, and possibly giving the axles a run for their life span.

I'd like to know your so call method of launching at the track, rev it up to 3500 and drop the clutch? yeah that'll do you a lot of good

What do you own and what have you driven?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NJslvrtypes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you should work on traction before launching so high. I was able to cut 2.2 60 fts. with stockies launching at about 3500 rpms.

Wheel hop and tires seems to be your problem. Invest in a set of Energy Suspension Motor Mounts and some Hoosier Drag Radials or Falken tires. Get that 60 ft down and you will get some low 14's.

But to answer your question, yes she needs K-Pro to elimate or adjust the limiter.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would be able to cut 2.0 60's if I could launch in vtec.

 

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I would be able to cut 2.0 60's if I could launch in vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>

On street tires? Absolutely no way. Guys with LSDs and good street tires are lucky to get 2.1's. And an oem RSX has neither.

I have yet to see anyone subscribe to the theory that open diff cars launching at vtec will achieve better 60' times than someone who launches a little lower with the correct clutching technique (not side-stepping).

 

I pulled 2.0 60's all day with my turbo LS integra, on 185/60/R15 good year all seasons.

obviously no one here, can drive.

christ, I pulled 2.1 60's on my 17's with 205/40/R17's

my i/h/e LS integra before I boosted it ran 140k miles on it ran 15.2 @ 90 mph, 2.1 60ft.

you can argue here all day.

 

I happen to own an s2000 too, same concept goes into my driving, high rpm launches, preloaded clutch engagement, soft let out of the clutch and the throttle to control it from there.

this kid today in an AP2, bone stock, was running 15.4's, 15.2's...

I walk up, I say hey man I have an AP1, I see you're times are slow for the car, what are you launching at?

Around 3000 rpm. Uh dude, you do know thats a horrible place to launch, right?

no... I didn't know that.

launch in vtec, 6500 at least, dude ran 14.10. and he's an asshat, didn't really know how to drive, he sat in the water box on the limitter in 1st gear, with stock tires....

Its funny how I see so many people without slicks go into the box. pointless.

Reguardless, its ideal to launch around where your peak power/tq is made if you want to get out of the hole the fastest, reguardless of your tires, while I'm spinning out of the hole, I dont bog right afterwards, you do realize 60 foot times...are 60 foot, its not just the initial leave, there is a span after that, which is pretty much your whole first gear that matters there, while people launch at 3500 get a 2.2 60 foot, you probably launched at 3500, and did a sluggish climb into vtec then the power came on. While I'd rather spin it out, feather til it catches traction already engaged IN vtec, then I'm good to go from there on out.

If anybody wants to try and justify me in any way, please feel free to include all factors of your personal experiences or "friends" and direct them towards me and I'll be sure to try and make sense of them, I'm not here to argue or fight.

I just know I launched my intega at 5500 all day long, and pulled consistent 2.0-2.1 60's with ALL SEASON street tires.

let the BS begin

 

dude vtec is speed limited. You can launch higher in the rpms where vtec normally opertates but its not 'IN VTEC" necessarily.

 

and slip the clutch more

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Used2beAb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and slip the clutch more</TD></TR></TABLE>

Bingo, clutch slip is your best friend at the track or racing in general.

Spinning tires is nothing more than just wasting time, to get down the track you need traction PERIOD.

Rich

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pushinlsteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">okay you obviously have never attained a good 60 ft on street tires.
What do you own and what have you driven?</TD></TR></TABLE>
launching at 5.5k does you no good. it promotes MORE wheel hop. why? cause your in your power band when you drop the clutch. assuming your "in vtec" when you do, as soon as you drop the clutch you will be under the vtec crossover anyway. with more tire slippage. you ever seen a stock dyno of a k20a2? when the crossover hits, the graph shows a dip LOWER than right before the crossover, than the sharp jump. what was the tire pressure at? is the clutch stock too?
i own a 01 em2. i have driven the following
1. my ride- 127 whp
2. 1989 park avenue 3.8 160 whp 220tq
3. my dads 97 maxima 260hp
4. my ex GFs 99 GTP supercharged 260hp
5. 95 civic DX maybe 100 whp haha
6. i forget the rest.
what does what i have driven have anything to do with your launch technique?
you should do what i did when i got my car. stay awake till about 3 in the morning, go out in the streets, and practice practice practice. work with the ride.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pushinlsteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I happen to own an s2000 too, same concept goes into my driving, high rpm launches, preloaded clutch engagement, soft let out of the clutch and the throttle to control it from there....... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I will admit I know very little about drag racing and launching well but in your s2000 example you are comparing FWD to RWD. RWD (especially a torquless s2000) can take the high RPM launches and still hook up well to get a good 60'.

 

The S2000 needs high-rpm launches. I think that has been proven over and over.

However, I've still yet to see anyone with a FWD car on street tires do 6500rpm launches and have faster times than launching properly 2000rpms lower.

You can control clutch slippage at any decent RPM, but doing so from 6500rpms is a lot harder on your car than doing so at 4500rpms. And in the end you should get the same result.

 

well what I do works for me, and you can't go out on the street and practice your launches, sure if you race on the street, that sticky compound on the track is way more stickier than the street, not to mention rock/sand/dirt free, and already warmed up from the last set of tires that hit it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SJcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Bingo, clutch slip is your best friend at the track or racing in general.

Spinning tires is nothing more than just wasting time, to get down the track you need traction PERIOD.

Rich</TD></TR></TABLE>

try to clutch slip a solid hub 6 puck with an extreme pressure plate

 

damn foo... you can't launch for shiet!

j/k k20 pryde 4 life...

an LSD would solve all your problems

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pushinlsteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">try to clutch slip a solid hub 6 puck with an extreme pressure plate </TD></TR></TABLE>

I got you beat, try a 3-puck ceramic on an AWD car... next to impossible, but it can be done with practice. God I hated that clutch hahaha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Todd00 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The S2000 needs high-rpm launches. I think that has been proven over and over.

However, I've still yet to see anyone with a FWD car on street tires do 6500rpm launches and have faster times than launching properly 2000rpms lower.

You can control clutch slippage at any decent RPM, but doing so from 6500rpms is a lot harder on your car than doing so at 4500rpms. And in the end you should get the same result.</TD></TR></TABLE>


fwd and rwd cars launch differently. you can spin out in a RWD if u launch like an idiot. RWD cars dont have the wheel hop issues that FWD cars do.

if you are comparing FWD to RWD launches, that's like comparing a watermelon to a telephone.

 

I forgot I can't drive

I suck at life for running 14.7 in a near stock RSX.
damn it too ******* slow.

 

I don't think you should beat on your girls new car

 

serious, go drive your own car. launching in vtec, that's pro