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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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Default Auto GSR Tranny into Auto LS...What is needed?

I'm asking this for a friend...

He has an automatic 96' SE and wants to make it a lil faster...already has bolt-ons. I know the Sir-G from japan came with an auto...I'm assuming the gears are shorter as well. What would be needed to put that tranny in my friend's car?

He's not interested in doing an Auto-Manual Coversion...he just bougt the car and his Fiance/Wife is going to be driving the car as well.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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My assumption is it needs nothing.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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i say tell him to install a 3rd pedal :D
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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gears should be shorter...but im sure its not going to make his car a whole lot faster....maybe go form runnng 16.5's to running 16.2's lol..IMO wast of time, but what ever floats his boat.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:06 PM
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Ok...well what are some suggestions to make it faster?..since we're on the subject...

He has a CAI, 4-1 Header, and 2.5" Catback. I'm tryin to get him to get a SC for the car since he just bought all the stuff above...and it gives you power when you want it. He doesn't want turbo...which is a shame cause I can get him a nice kit from Phil (SpoolinPerformance). I figured the tranny would be the next best thing since the shorter gears will help.

Like I said before...he doesn't wanna do an Auto-Manual Conversion since his Fiance/Wife is goin to drive the car now and then. He just wants a lil power to merge lanes and mess around now and then...not really a racer. Nothing crazy where she will hate driving the car. Any ideas?...
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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JR supercharger.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 02:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D 2da A9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">JR supercharger.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The Non-Vtec Model or do the M62 Conversion?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Simple SOHC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok...well what are some suggestions to make it faster?..since we're on the subject...

He has a CAI, 4-1 Header, and 2.5" Catback. I'm tryin to get him to get a SC for the car since he just bought all the stuff above...and it gives you power when you want it. He doesn't want turbo...which is a shame cause I can get him a nice kit from Phil (SpoolinPerformance). I figured the tranny would be the next best thing since the shorter gears will help.

Like I said before...he doesn't wanna do an Auto-Manual Conversion since his Fiance/Wife is goin to drive the car now and then. He just wants a lil power to merge lanes and mess around now and then...not really a racer. Nothing crazy where she will hate driving the car. Any ideas?...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Women should be able to drive manuals too. My girl autox's her EG and loves to drive my integra....

Maybe he needs to swap fiances first,then swap a 5 speed
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Simple SOHC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok...well what are some suggestions to make it faster?</TD></TR></TABLE>
loose the wife. its cheaper, you'll have more fun and your car will be faster
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 05:39 PM
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It may be a long shot, but convert it to lsvtec, or hook some nitrous up to it. Not a bad way to make it faster IMO.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 05:51 PM
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gears are the same,
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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i didn't think you could do an ls vtec on an auto trans:you need the ecu and gsrs didn't come with autos but i don't know about the other ones.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrdeadman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didn't think you could do an ls vtec on an auto trans:you need the ecu and gsrs didn't come with autos but i don't know about the other ones.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you technically could do a LS vtec but it would kill the tranny to rev that high.

trust me go 5speed its easier than you think, i did it.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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Thnx for the feedback...

Yeah...if it was my car...I would do an auto-manual conversion...but it's not. Just tryin to help my friend out.

OT - I have made all my gf's learn to drive stick.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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The gears are NOT the same from the SiR-G automatics. They are shorter so that they do not fall out of vtec so abruptly (even though it still will, but it doesnt matter for your LS application) during brisk driving, and to add some torque multiplication in all situations.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:46 PM
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If he wants to make it faster, and he's considering doing big power upgrades, the first thing he's going to have to address is that auto tranny because the stock torque converter is going to blow out once he's starts making alot more HP. He could end up spending thousands up thousands of dollars and still have a car that a bolt-on GSR could keep up with.
If he wants a fast automatic, it's not going to be a 4-banger honda.

Tell him for starters he could get rid of the 4-1 header, it's not complementing the system. I don't know what kind of 2.5" exhaust he's got, but i'll assume it's a muffler shop special, probably crush bent. Either way, 2.5" is too big. Tell him to get a 2.36" exhaust, or a 2.25" inner diameter exhaust. Tell him to get a high flow cat. If he gets his intake, header, and exhaust all working towards making power in the same area his car will feel better. Right now, it sounds like lego building.
After that, if he still wants to go faster, the biggest difference is going to be a manual swap like it or not.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 10:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SilverDc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you technically could do a LS vtec but it would kill the tranny to rev that high.

trust me go 5speed its easier than you think, i did it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

on an LSVTEC you shouldnt be reving any higher than stock redline. the bottom is not build to rev that high. you would have to get upgraded rod and bolts. at the very least get the rods shot-peened
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by slvrblckf4i &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If he wants to make it faster, and he's considering doing big power upgrades, the first thing he's going to have to address is that auto tranny because the stock torque converter is going to blow out once he's starts making alot more HP. He could end up spending thousands up thousands of dollars and still have a car that a bolt-on GSR could keep up with.
If he wants a fast automatic, it's not going to be a 4-banger honda.

Tell him for starters he could get rid of the 4-1 header, it's not complementing the system. I don't know what kind of 2.5" exhaust he's got, but i'll assume it's a muffler shop special, probably crush bent. Either way, 2.5" is too big. Tell him to get a 2.36" exhaust, or a 2.25" inner diameter exhaust. Tell him to get a high flow cat. If he gets his intake, header, and exhaust all working towards making power in the same area his car will feel better. Right now, it sounds like lego building.
After that, if he still wants to go faster, the biggest difference is going to be a manual swap like it or not. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Supercharger was my idea...so I'll probably back off from sugesting it to him.

As for the header...from what I read on here...people said get a 4-1...but not a JDM one. The 4-2-1 will just add more mid-range to the already dominant mid-range. And the exhaust is just one off of ebay. I couldn't find an Apex'i N1 in my area used...so I told him to just buy the one on ebay. I ran a 2.5" exhaust on my 93' Civic EX w/ I/H/E/Test Pipe/Skunk2 Cam and it was fine...thats a 1.6L SOHC.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:10 AM
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if you teach a female to drive a stick, she will become a more attentive, informed driver. it will force her to fully assess her surroundings while driving the car. swap to a stick and tell her to LEARN OR LEAVE
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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PEOPLE, GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS. AUTO TO MANUAL SWAP IS OUT OF THE QUESTION, SO WHY KEEP TELLING HIM TO DO IT?!?!

plus, you are making it out to be like if he does this swap, the car magically transforms into a race car or something. it will still be slow as *****.

with all of that said, personally, i would not waste the money on changing to the auto gsr tranny unless his current tranny is shot to ****. if he ever does plan on going with the SC or a small quick spooling turbo (maybe a 1gen DSM) i would look into levelten. they do amazing work with auto trannies. they are located in new jersey. here are a few links to get you on the way.
http://www.levelten.com/store/import/index.htm
http://www.levelten.com/store/...l.htm

in all honesty, the bolt on's will basically do nothing for the auto, if he really wants to feel a little more power/torque, he will have to go some sort of forced induction. and to do it right will be very expensive. did he consider keeping the integra like it is for his wife, and going out and buying an older hatch for him to play around with? it would probable be cheaper in the long run.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .brian. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">PEOPLE, GET IT THROUGH YOUR THICK SKULLS. AUTO TO MANUAL SWAP IS OUT OF THE QUESTION, SO WHY KEEP TELLING HIM TO DO IT?!?!

plus, you are making it out to be like if he does this swap, the car magically transforms into a race car or something. it will still be slow as *****.

with all of that said, personally, i would not waste the money on changing to the auto gsr tranny unless his current tranny is shot to ****. if he ever does plan on going with the SC or a small quick spooling turbo (maybe a 1gen DSM) i would look into levelten. they do amazing work with auto trannies. they are located in new jersey. here are a few links to get you on the way.
http://www.levelten.com/store/import/index.htm
http://www.levelten.com/store/...l.htm

in all honesty, the bolt on's will basically do nothing for the auto, if he really wants to feel a little more power/torque, he will have to go some sort of forced induction. and to do it right will be very expensive. did he consider keeping the integra like it is for his wife, and going out and buying an older hatch for him to play around with? it would probable be cheaper in the long run.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you...I was starting to get annoyed from all everyone saying auto-manual.

Thats some good advice...I'm goin to talk to him somemore when he gets back from Mexico. I think he would take your suggestion on giving her the Integ and buying either another one or a civic. He was doing something similar to that before but his EF was stolen and stripped...so he just let it go.
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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another option...

check out http://www.passwordjdm.com

they have an h22 swap with auto trans and ecu for like $1500

edit: here is the link
http://www.passwordjdm.com/pro...D=464
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Old Mar 7, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .brian. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">another option...

check out http://www.passwordjdm.com

they have an h22 swap with auto trans and ecu for like $1500

edit: here is the link
http://www.passwordjdm.com/pro...D=464</TD></TR></TABLE>

After driving my other friend's H22 integ and knowing how this other guy is...I don't think an H22 would be good for him. Hella low to the ground. But thats for the option...I didn't even think of that swap. Thats one hell of a deal though.
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