yeah, i've been thinking about getting an rsx type s. right now i have a del sol with a b16 swap, which is listed at 160 hp. the type s was a 2005, which is supposed to have 205 hp. it was about 30 degrees out, and i drove the car for a total of about 8 minutes... i took it up to 7k about 5 times, and it felt SLOW. it felt slower than the del sol i have now. are they really this slow?? i was pretty dissappointed... on rsx's, do you have to wait for the car to warm up before vtec engages? that's how my del sol is.... the sound of the motor didn't have a very noticable change through the rpm range, so i'm not positive vtec was engaging.

 

well, "slowness" is subjective, I thought the type s pulled pretty hard

 

did it spin the tires at all when you shifted? did the vtec crossover a very noticable noise difference?? cuz the one i drove didnt

 

If you spin the tires when you shift, it's your problem coordinating the clutch & gas, not the power of the car...

But anyway -

Are you sure it was a Type-S? Could it rev through 8500 rpm? If not, then I think someone's trying to scam you.

 

**** when i test drove the RSX type S, I fell in love. I just kept goin and took it home that day.
yeah i had a slow EK but still, the smooth vtec crossover is what did it for me, go to another dealer maybe try another type S who knows, or maybe your just used to the jolt of the b series vtec point , i would say but i love my dc5

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94delslowb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, i've been thinking about getting an rsx type s. right now i have a del sol with a b16 swap, which is listed at 160 hp. the type s was a 2005, which is supposed to have 205 hp. it was about 30 degrees out, and i drove the car for a total of about 8 minutes... i took it up to 7k about 5 times, and it felt SLOW. it felt slower than the del sol i have now. are they really this slow?? i was pretty dissappointed... on rsx's, do you have to wait for the car to warm up before vtec engages? that's how my del sol is.... the sound of the motor didn't have a very noticable change through the rpm range, so i'm not positive vtec was engaging.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Like someone said earlier... Its subjective... It may "feel" slower, but its not... Its just A LOT smoother... I have a b16 CRX right now and the 05-06 type-s is faster... You dont really feel a huge kick with vtec because the torque curve is a lot smoother than the b series... Trust me man, they're fast... Just take a look at CRSX.com... Theres a lot of info on there about the car...

 

huh? really? slower? i've driven my friend's b16a del sol and also the type s and they were not at all similar! r u sure u were driving the type s? maybe u just felt heavy in the type s compared to the del sol . . . trust me the i-vtec is very noticable!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BarracksSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you spin the tires when you shift, it's your problem coordinating the clutch & gas, not the power of the car...

But anyway -

Are you sure it was a Type-S? Could it rev through 8500 rpm? If not, then I think someone's trying to scam you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

your an idiot, they rev to 7800 and 8600 with kpro, only morons rev it to 8600 all the time also. Dont post the wrong ****.. Anyway, they are very quick and i will tell you that once you put just basic bolt ons and kpro on that car you will feel an entire differant power aspect. Trust me ive driven in one 30+ times both ways and have driven the car 12+ times. I'm not someone pulling this out of my ***, trust me get it and put about 2500$ into it and you will be amazed

 

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your an idiot, they rev to 7800 and 8600 with kpro, only morons rev it to 8600 all the time also. </TD></TR></TABLE>
your not even really suppose to rev it to 8600. The reason tuners usually set the limit a little higher is so your not bouncing off your rev limiter.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94delslowb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah, i've been thinking about getting an rsx type s. right now i have a del sol with a b16 swap, which is listed at 160 hp. the type s was a 2005, which is supposed to have 205 hp. it was about 30 degrees out, and i drove the car for a total of about 8 minutes... i took it up to 7k about 5 times, and it felt SLOW. it felt slower than the del sol i have now. are they really this slow?? i was pretty dissappointed... on rsx's, do you have to wait for the car to warm up before vtec engages? that's how my del sol is.... the sound of the motor didn't have a very noticable change through the rpm range, so i'm not positive vtec was engaging.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nooo! i can't beleive you called type S "slow"!
That car pumps my adrenaline each time i hit vtec

 

I never thought it was that quick :shrugs:

 

yeah, I'm sure it was a type-s.... an '05 type-s.... how long does it take for the motor to get warmed up and vtec to start working on one of these? or would vtec work right away on one??

 

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At 30 degrees F, it would take a while for the car to warm up to give you full power.

7 minutes might not have been long enough...I'm not sure, but it's possible.

i-VTEC is a more complicated arrangement than your B16's VTEC. i-VTEC constantly changes several performance altering settings, including cam timing, hi-lo cam lobes like the old VTEC, and it alters the fuel map and ignition timing to take advantage of the conditions extant at the time the performance is required.

There's no big kick in an i-VTEC car that resembles that of an ITR, B16 or GS-R. i-VTEC won't make the same kind of sudden noise. It just builds up on you as conditions allow, and the actual performance figures will be better. It's much harder to get caught off the cam or in the wrong gear with i-VTEC.

I'm sorry you weren't impressed with it on your first drive, but it really is better.

The only thing I can think of to advise is to go drive it again, maybe for a little longer than 7 minutes.

 

they arent as light as the del sol.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blouisgod &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they arent as light as the del sol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The delSol is far from light. In stock form the delSol is like 1110kg and my ITR is 1180 in stock form, the RSX-S adds about 75-80kg. Even though the RSX-S weighs about 330lbs more than a delSol (USDM version may weigh more than the JDM version as is the case with most Hondas) it has a better power to weight ratio and the extra weight is negated.

Not having the VTEC punch is a VERY good thing, all it means when you have a VTEC punch is the car is losing alot of power before VTEC. I've had 3 different B16A Civics before my ITR and in no way at all can they be compared. Granted the ITR makes a little bit more power than the RSX-S, but so did my Civic SiRs make a little more power than the B16 powered cars in the States.

Definitely go for a test drive again, preferably in some warmer weather. If you still feel the way you do, I would be very surprised.

 

i'll try to clear this up, redline is at 8000 but the needle wont bounce till about 8400 (trust me, did it by accident once). with k-pro you can adjust the redline up to 9000 if you want but i have mine at 8600. so while racing my shifting points are about 8570-8600 (safetly)

 

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your an idiot, they rev to 7800 and 8600 with kpro, only morons rev it to 8600 all the time also. Dont post the wrong ****.. Anyway, they are very quick and i will tell you that once you put just basic bolt ons and kpro on that car you will feel an entire differant power aspect. Trust me ive driven in one 30+ times both ways and have driven the car 12+ times. I'm not someone pulling this out of my ***, trust me get it and put about 2500$ into it and you will be amazed</TD></TR></TABLE>

You apparently haven driven one enough. They make peak POWER at 7,800 not redline at 7,800. I believe the real redline is 8,100 although on the actual tach it's not indicated red until 8,200. I'm pretty sure fuel cutoff is 8,400. I've hit it numerous times but I never pay attention to where it's hitting at.

 

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You apparently haven driven one enough. They make peak POWER at 7,800 not redline at 7,800. I believe the real redline is 8,100 although on the actual tach it's not indicated red until 8,200. I'm pretty sure fuel cutoff is 8,400. I've hit it numerous times but I never pay attention to where it's hitting at. </TD></TR></TABLE>


Horsepower 200 hp @ 7400 rpm

Torque 142 ft-lbs @ 6000 rpm


looks like you dont even know your own car, thats pretty sad unless honda it lieing to me with there cluster it looks like it red lines at 7800 and

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your wrong to, how the hell dont you guys know waht your car red lines at?? with k pro you can adjust it to what ever you want it to not up to 9000.

 

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Horsepower 200 hp @ 7400 rpm

Torque 142 ft-lbs @ 6000 rpm


looks like you dont even know your own car, thats pretty sad unless honda it lieing to me with there cluster it looks like it red lines at 7800 and

your wrong to, how the hell dont you guys know waht your car red lines at?? with k pro you can adjust it to what ever you want it to not up to 9000.

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Hahaha. You are just making yourself look stupid when you make insults and end up being wrong. That's not a cluster from an 05/06 Type-S. Not to mention it makes peak power at 7,800. 210hp rated for '05, 201 for '06, same motor.

http://www.caranddriver.com/ar...ber=2

Read what that says down below genious. 210hp at 7,800.

And if I have to I'll go out and take a damn picture of my cluster gauge.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slow_CvC99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Horsepower 200 hp @ 7400 rpm
Torque 142 ft-lbs @ 6000 rpm

looks like you dont even know your own car, thats pretty sad unless honda it lieing to me with there cluster it looks like it red lines at 7800 and

your wrong to, how the hell dont you guys know waht your car red lines at?? with k pro you can adjust it to what ever you want it to not up to 9000.
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Wow are you an idiot! You don't even have a TypeS, and you are trying to tell people that do what is what.

First, if you weren't such a moron, you would notice that on the picture you posted, the indicated redline is 7900, not 7800. This is the INDICATED redline, and does not represent the actual fuel cut, which is at 8100 rpm for the 02-04 TypeS.

Second, this thread is about the 05+ TypeS, and if you hade ever sat behind the wheel of one, you would see that the indicated redline is at 8100 rpm. Again, the actual fuel cut is 200 rpm higher at 8300 rpm.

I have owned both an 02 and an 05 TypeS, and both would easily handle a Delsol with the B16.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94delslowb16 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i was pretty dissappointed... on rsx's, do you have to wait for the car to warm up before vtec engages?</TD></TR></TABLE>
bingo. vtec won't engage if the motor is cold. wait for the oil to warm up. k&gt;b

 

it looks like the redline is at 7900 in the above picture, but i think the fuel cut off is at 8300 if im not mistaken for the 05+ type s

 

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bingo. vtec won't engage if the motor is cold. wait for the oil to warm up. k&gt;b</TD></TR></TABLE>


And that's not just on an RSX, but any Honda motor.

 

ok i was talking in general, i have been in a 03 many times and driven them, i did know they changed the motor but i did not know they up'ed the redline and peak power, yes i was wrong, im not a stuck up ht member, i will admit when i am wrong, so i will just see my way out of this thread

 

maybe because u redlined it when the motor was still cold. 7 minutes in 30 degree weather... wow

vtec doesnt engage when the motor is cold..

i feel sorry for whoever buys that car you drove