Battle s2k over srt-4
Hey everyone wanted a debate on this cause we been fighting about it at work lately. I have a friend with an 03 S2K and another with an 05 SRT-4. If it was stock to stock what would be faster in the quarter mile. What are the best times you guys have done all stock. Best time we have done with the SRT-4 is a 13.9. Let me know and thanks for the input.
best stock s2k is 13.66
very rare to find someone able/willing to pull that off. Weak point is our rear diff, and doing too many runs like what that would require seriously chances blowing up the diff. Average s2k driver is gonna be low low 14's. I would venture a guess the average srt4 driver isn't gonna pull 13.9's either, fwd drag racing is rough.
very rare to find someone able/willing to pull that off. Weak point is our rear diff, and doing too many runs like what that would require seriously chances blowing up the diff. Average s2k driver is gonna be low low 14's. I would venture a guess the average srt4 driver isn't gonna pull 13.9's either, fwd drag racing is rough.
13.9 on srt is actually professional driver, but a regular person who does not spend much time on tracks cant pull like that at all. Same thing with S2k, but its easier to drive the s2k than driving the srt4 because all wheel drive cant be dumped the clutch just like the s2k. I would say, it will be a close race depending on the driver
That is not a professional driver. That is the best time we have done with the SRT-4. We have the slips on it. The best time I have done in my Type-R was a 14.7. We have a big debate here at work and we are trying to find out roughtly what has been the best time stock S2K put down. Thanks for all your input.
well, numerous slips for 13.8's and tons of mention of the 13.66 run. But the search function stinks on s2ki and I can't find the exact post it came from. Supposedly the 13.66 is the fastest documented. 13.8 is the fastest that Motor Trend ever got... But like I said 99% of s2k drivers are gonna be 14's all day long.
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Here's a solution for you. Have them race and find out.
Bench racing is
Just b/c some people on the internet run the 1/4 mile in X amount of time doesn't mean your friend is going to be able to do just as well. The ONLY way to find out is to ACTUALLY race them. In this case, the person that can drive better will win.
Bench racing is
Just b/c some people on the internet run the 1/4 mile in X amount of time doesn't mean your friend is going to be able to do just as well. The ONLY way to find out is to ACTUALLY race them. In this case, the person that can drive better will win.
stock for stock, the s is faster, assuming their both good drivers. I have no problems pulling on a stock srt-4s, especially from a dig. from a roll its a little different, I wont start pulling till around 60-70, after 100 ....c-ya... but if it s a modded srt-4, it wont be a good outcome
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmrs2k »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">best stock s2k is 13.66
very rare to find someone able/willing to pull that off. Weak point is our rear diff, and doing too many runs like what that would require seriously chances blowing up the diff. Average s2k driver is gonna be low low 14's. I would venture a guess the average srt4 driver isn't gonna pull 13.9's either, fwd drag racing is rough.</TD></TR></TABLE>
S2000's diff is not that weak. Autocrossers do 8K+ clutch dumps all day long ON R COMPOUND tyres and have no problems with their diff. breaking. I personally do 8K clutch drops at autocrosses on my car, though with street tyres.
The key is the 8K+ rpm. You're transferring enough power to break lose the rear wheels so your diff isn't taking the strain.
You're looking at similar power outputs, srt-4 has the torque and the s2000 has the rwd weight transfer characteristics as their perspective advantages.
I say the s2000 will come out ahead stock for stock...in bench e-racing.
very rare to find someone able/willing to pull that off. Weak point is our rear diff, and doing too many runs like what that would require seriously chances blowing up the diff. Average s2k driver is gonna be low low 14's. I would venture a guess the average srt4 driver isn't gonna pull 13.9's either, fwd drag racing is rough.</TD></TR></TABLE>
S2000's diff is not that weak. Autocrossers do 8K+ clutch dumps all day long ON R COMPOUND tyres and have no problems with their diff. breaking. I personally do 8K clutch drops at autocrosses on my car, though with street tyres.
The key is the 8K+ rpm. You're transferring enough power to break lose the rear wheels so your diff isn't taking the strain.
You're looking at similar power outputs, srt-4 has the torque and the s2000 has the rwd weight transfer characteristics as their perspective advantages.
I say the s2000 will come out ahead stock for stock...in bench e-racing.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smkngsr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">13.9 on srt is actually professional driver, but a regular person who does not spend much time on tracks cant pull like that at all. Same thing with S2k, but its easier to drive the s2k than driving the srt4 because all wheel drive cant be dumped the clutch just like the s2k. I would say, it will be a close race depending on the driver</TD></TR></TABLE>
srt-4 is a FWD car BTW.
its awkward to compare considering they were both built for different purposes. The SRT-4 was built more or less for "straight-fast" with a turbo motor that can run relatively high stock boost levels while the S2000 is for a more spirited "track-style" with the RWD, good power/weight ratio, and great suspension.
i dont own either and am just rambling though
but i agree with the majority saying this is an unfair comparison between these vehicles
srt-4 is a FWD car BTW.
its awkward to compare considering they were both built for different purposes. The SRT-4 was built more or less for "straight-fast" with a turbo motor that can run relatively high stock boost levels while the S2000 is for a more spirited "track-style" with the RWD, good power/weight ratio, and great suspension.
i dont own either and am just rambling though
but i agree with the majority saying this is an unfair comparison between these vehicles
i ran an srt4 dont know what year...i have Apexi exhaust only...we both launched i got up front than he came creeping up than he shifted and was going all the way to 9k so i pulled up some....than the light came and had to stop he turned so we didnt run again....id like to run another one....i think on the freeway theres no chance we (s2k's) would beat them
Thanks alot. I know the S2k will tear it out in the autox in a heartbeat. Was trying to find out about how quick they are in the quarter mile. Thanks for all the input.
I raced my friend's SRT-4 (which is modded a little)...our S2000 was stock, we took off and he out ran me but i stayed right with his rear quarter panel, so i imagine stock for stock i probobly could have pulled on him, but there are so many variables, and as it was said before...bench racing is for e-thugs...
this really shouldn't be a debate, you really can't compare...
s2k - rwd - 2.0 n/a
srt4 - fwd - 2.4 FI
the s2000 is more of a track car than the srt4. s2000 was made for the turns and twisties, not the 1/4. although the s2000 isn't a 1/4 car, it has the power to do it with the right driver
i personally think the srt4's are a waste. dodge just got lucky with the best bang for the buck and people ate that car up. in stock form they are ok, but once you start slapping mods on them your traction goes down the tubes. ive been in a 12sec. srt4 before, and it was the scariest thing every becasue the front tires wouldn't stay planted.
Modified by Francesco at 2:19 PM 2/28/2006
s2k - rwd - 2.0 n/a
srt4 - fwd - 2.4 FI
the s2000 is more of a track car than the srt4. s2000 was made for the turns and twisties, not the 1/4. although the s2000 isn't a 1/4 car, it has the power to do it with the right driver
i personally think the srt4's are a waste. dodge just got lucky with the best bang for the buck and people ate that car up. in stock form they are ok, but once you start slapping mods on them your traction goes down the tubes. ive been in a 12sec. srt4 before, and it was the scariest thing every becasue the front tires wouldn't stay planted.
Modified by Francesco at 2:19 PM 2/28/2006
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It's actually a 2.4
It's actually a 2.4
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Who cares??
</TD></TR></TABLE>Who cares??
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It's actually a 2.4
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sry, miss typed.
It's actually a 2.4
</TD></TR></TABLE>sry, miss typed.
SRT-4 is a purpose built acceleration car...being front wheel drive and high powered, handling isnt its strong suit...the S2000 was engineered with handling in mind...it just happens to be able to accelerate pretty damn fast as well.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hypnosisracing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">SRT-4 is a purpose built acceleration car...being front wheel drive and high powered, handling isnt its strong suit...the S2000 was engineered with handling in mind...it just happens to be able to accelerate pretty damn fast as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>
every true!
but i beat those srt4's going str8!
every true!
but i beat those srt4's going str8!




