Nick Riley did it driving "White Mountians" SRT-4. Basically a Stage 3R car with supporting mods and a 50hp shot of nitrous.

Thread -

http://www.srtforums.com/forum...21214

Video -

http://www.srtforums.com/forum...21285

Some Direct Links to Video, others are mirrors

Enjoy, I knew it would happen sooner or later.

And its not a big turbo car either.

Props to the AzSRT4 Crew - Westside!

 

10.80's . Dyno plot for the car? It looked like 1st gear had no traction at all.

Phil

 

very nice!

 

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Apparently 660wtq in a front wheeler will do that..

 

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I'm just impressed with the traction he was able to get. Pretty fast for a neon

 

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how much HP?

 

good job!!!

As far as traction goes I have problems with a stage 1 car can't imagine stage 3 with nitrous, prob a great ride tho!!!!

 

!!!!!!!!!

Phil

 

not your run of the mill SRT-4 for mopar

 

i give him props for that, but its still a neon

 

 

he needs to get that car in et brackets and win some money

 

Okay and you drive a Honda, hardly an bump up to BMW standards is it?

Look, we all drive compact cars. I like coming to this forum because generally everybody here is open-minded and won't make comments like yours. Its also the place where most of the movers and shakers in the sport compact drag racing community hang out and I like interacting with them.

There was a post here wondering what was wrong with SRT-4's for them not to run the number. One has done it and if you watched the video you see not only is 1st gear a problem, but 2nd gear is too and he still stood on it and ran a 10.89 vs a Duster that looked like it was good for at least a low 11 second pass and that's nothing to sneeze at and a sport bike.

Is your car capable of doing that?

Also daily driven, FWD compacts outside of Hondas are pretty rare when you think about it and even more rare among domestic compact owners.

Go back to your box your comments weren't needed for this thread.

 

Hondas have proven reliability, BMW's have proven electrical and reliability issues. every BMW in my Family was purchased brand new and all had to be brought in for service repair within a year. but your logic says if it cost more initially then it must be quality right? Honda&gt;bmw period. oh wait, they make some performance cars too and performance means quality. {sarcasm}

 

There isn't a plot available I don't think. Nick Riley of NGRY Heads hasn't released much information about this car and the other low, low 11 second SRT-4 he has worked his "magic" on.

For basics, both cars are Stage 3R based. Meaning the turbo manifold/housing and turbo are from Mopar's Stage 3R upgrade. However the boost is no longer controlled by the factory PCM.

Each car also has an NRGY ported head and Crane Camshafts (not sure what grinds on either car). For a full mod list check out the forum and do a search, its been posted several thousands of times since this car and the other have worked the times down to this point.

The 10 second car has a stock bottom end, stock axles and is still using the transmission that came with the car.

For awhile in SRT4 land the focus has been on making the power but not putting it down on the track. There are more than a few big turbo cars making well over 500-580hp but none of them have been able to put it all together on a single pass, let alone 3 of them in the same night. More than a few cars trap well over 127mph, which is more than enough to run 10 second ET's. There's one that has trapped over 130mph on a stock block, turbo and a big shot of nitrous.

Just like traction was a big issue in the early days for Hondas, it is as well for the SRT-4 and the car itself was only offered for 3 model years.

The learning curve has been fairly short when you think about it. 11 second cars started showing up as early as 4-5 months after the car was available for sale, but its taken the next 2 years to basically find a combination that would ET as well as the car would MPH.

Its still a learning process as there's enough power being generated by some SRT-4's to run low 10's, if not high 9's.

This is not the first, nor the last 10 second pass you will see from a daily driven SRT-4. Its very early in the season and I expect some of those other low, low 11 second cars to find the combination to run 10's as well.

 

so why does yours only run 14's?

 

I'm not saying that, but I'm tired of Honda owners thinking they are so high and mighty that everything else must be shhh just because we choose not to follow the herd of people that buy Hondas for whatever reason.

You drive Hondas, I drive Dodges, so what.

The drive and desire to go fast is common in all of us, who cares who makes it.

 

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You drive Hondas, I drive Dodges, so what.

The drive and desire to go fast is common in all of us, who cares who makes it.

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If you are tired of what Honda owners think then why are you here? its not going to be all positive just because we are in the sport compact crowd. you came in here with your so caled insult then followed it up with preaching. I 'm sorry but your first comment on this thread rubbed me the wrong way.

 

Because its STOCK for one, I run at LACR for another.

Ive seen plenty run 15's by missing shifts and other reasons, hell I even do it. Around the 14.6, 14.7, 14.8 and 14.9 passes I have made are surrounded by alot of low 15 second passes either by missing a shift or botching the launch, which is easy to do if you have driven a car that makes 230ft around 2500rpm.

I have however gotten a 2.02 60ft out of the stock KDW's and last night I clicked off a .062 so my driving not withstanding its what a dead stock SRT-4 does up at LACR.

That's why... it will run 13's at sea level, want me to go up to Sears Point in March and show you? I doubt it will be stock that long, but I'll be more than happy to show you a dead stock car doing 13's.

 

Go back and do a search, there was a post about it and some people were wondering, just because it wasn't you personally doesn't mean the achivement doesn't carry weight around here.

I don't care about being positive and I don't preach, it comes with reaching a certain age in life that some things are better left unsaid, but because of the nature of the internet all kinds of stuff comes out that shouldn't be said because the chance of getting called on the matt about it in person and highly uncommon.

Thus terms like Internet Thug is now apart of the Lexicon of the internet.

Like I said I come to this forum and have so for a few years now because to put it mildly I am one of the elderstatemen of the sport, having been around it when a Honda running 13's was impressive, Lanny Higa was getting props for a 10 second daily driver back in the mid 90's and I saw some of the first passes made by Ed Bergenholtz when they were the 2nd person to install wheeie bars on the back of a FWD car, The Old One of Endyn fame being credited as the first to do such a thing.

I see nothing wrong with what I posted and I was hardly out of line.

 

what turbo is he running?

 

I might be drunk but who are you saying was the first one to put bars on a fwd . I thaught it was Ed and Ron .

 

Stage 3R - (the boost is being controlled by a DTEC however)

Mopar 2005 SRT-4 Stage 3R Turbo Upgrade Kit with Turbo Toys

**FULL KIT**

For maximum power and torque, the Stage 3 Turbo Kit is the ultimate upgrade for your SRT-4. The Stage 3 Turbo Upgrade Kit (with and without Turbo Toys) boosts power to an awesome 310 hp at 5600 rpm and 325 ft.-lbs. of torque at 3200–4800 rpm. The Stage 3 Kit with Turbo Toys in high-octane mode increases power to an amazing 355 hp at 5200 rpm and 365 ft.-lbs. of torque at 3200–4800 rpm! The Mopar Performance Cat-Back Exhaust System (P4510461) is required to obtain these power figures.

Calibration Features:

* Increased WOT and part throttle boost
* Boost hold feature during WOT shifts
* More aggressive exhaust note during deceleration
* Optimized calibration for the Mopar Performance
* Blow-Off Valve Conversion Kit (P4510548—sold separately)
* Increased rev. limit from 6240 RPM to 6500 RPM

Features:

* Stage 3 PCM with Block-Off Connector
* TD05HR-15GK2-10cm2 Turbo Unit and Manifold: 16% larger compressor wheel diameter to flow and compress more intake air, 19% larger turbine wheel diameter to flow more exhaust gas and reduce back pressure, 67% more turbine scroll area for reduced back pressure
* TiAl (Titanium Aluminide) Turbine Wheel with significantly less rotational inertia than the standard Inconel steel; less inertia results in reduced turbo lag and better turbo response.
* High-Flow (180 lph 75 psi) Fuel Pump Module
* Pressure Regulated Fuel Rail Assembly with 4.0 Bar Returnless Regulator and Hose Kit
* (4) 682 cc/min Fuel Injectors (Not included in the Stage 3 Add-On Kit.)
* 3.0 bar MAP Sensor (Not included in the Stage 3 Add-On Kit.)
* 3.0 bar TIP Sensor (Not included in the Stage 3 Add-On Kit.)
* Turbo Toys Hardware and Components (Not included in the Stage 3 Add-On Kit.)

Turbo Toys Components:

Intercooler Sprayer
The 4 fine-mist water spray nozzles attached to the front mounted intercooler are activated by the 3-position blue rocker switch located on the Turbo Toys bezel. The three intercooler spray system modes are defined as follows:
Off – No spraying will occur in the off position.
Auto – This mode uses an algorithm in the PCM to optimize charge air cooling with minimum use of fluid.

The PCM monitors vehicle speed, ambient air temperature, charge air temperature, and throttle position to determine when to spray the intercooler. Manual – This mode is activated when the switch is fully pressed down. The result is a constant spray of water upon demand. The sprayers will stay on continuously while the switch is held down and will remain on for a short time after the switch is released.

The intercooler sprayers increase the efficiency of the intercooler and reduce charge air temperature, resulting in increased engine performance. The blue indicator lamp will illuminate whenever the system is spraying.

Dial-A-Boost Switch
Manage boost on demand by adjusting the 4-position thumb wheel located on the Turbo Toys bezel. Through boost torque management, engine output can be optimized for the best launch and drivability in conditions varying from the sticky launch pad at the drag strip to snow covered pavement.
The thumb wheel can be set to the following four positions:
Position 3 – This position provides the highest boost level with torque management optimized for traction limit with high grip tires. Position 2 – This position provides the highest boost level with torque management optimized for traction limit with OEM tires. Position 1 – This position provides mid-level boost. Position 0 – This position provides minimum boost.

High-Octane Fuel Switch

Fill the tank with 100 (R+M)/2 octane unleaded fuel, press the red switch located on the Turbo Toys bezel, and discover instant torque and power gains. The PCM will increase spark advance and adjust fueling to take full advantage of the 100 octane unleaded fuel. The red indicator lamp will illuminate when High Octane Mode is active.

During High Octane Mode operation, the PCM prevents damaging detonation via the OEM knock detection system. High Octane Mode will be bypassed if damaging knock is detected. The red indicator lamp will blink when High Octane Mode is bypassed. Spark advance and fueling are returned to standard levels in bypass mode. The blinking indicator light can be turned off by pressing the red High-Octane Mode switch. Entering bypass mode is an indication that higher-octane fuel is required.

NOTE: It is recommended that the level of premium fuel be as low as possible when adding high-octane fuel. The tank level should be reduced until the low fuel indicator is blinking and filled completely with 100 (R+M)/2 octane unleaded fuel before the High Octane Mode is engaged. The use of leaded fuels will cause damage to the vehicle’s catalytic converter and oxygen sensors.

 

They are saying somewhere over 400hp on the 50hp shot.

Another car with a built block, the same head and cams makes 407hp with a Stage 3R based turbo as well.

That car has run 11.01 with the same driver as this car

http://www.nrgyheads.com/

Nick as been involved with Neons for almost 10 years.

 

It wasn't -

Its widely understood that Larry Widmer (Endyn fame, Rollerwave Piston inventor, powered Bill Elliott into the NASCAR records books, along with Bob Glidden tear on Pro Stock in the mid 80's) - http://www.theoldone.com; put them on his car first.

http://www.theoldone.com/artic...c.htm - Larry's Civic