Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"?
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Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"?
Well as of now or around this summer the most I'll be able to spend on a car would be around 14,000 give or take a few $$.
If my uncle didn't purchase me a car and I didn't need to pay for its registration/shipping fee's I might get more...
From what's in my budget it'd range from an older higher milage ITR to a similar mile WRX.
I'm pretty sure the WRX won't be that reliable but would the Integra Type R which might be nearing 100,000 make the 200,000 mark without any major problems???Say if it was properly maintained, driven on the freeway from the 100,000-200,000 mark and need any extra care??
Also I've searched about this but if timing was retarted and all one was doing was highway driving would 87 octane be alright to use or would it be better to scrounge up the 300 extra per year and just use premium?
If my uncle didn't purchase me a car and I didn't need to pay for its registration/shipping fee's I might get more...
From what's in my budget it'd range from an older higher milage ITR to a similar mile WRX.
I'm pretty sure the WRX won't be that reliable but would the Integra Type R which might be nearing 100,000 make the 200,000 mark without any major problems???Say if it was properly maintained, driven on the freeway from the 100,000-200,000 mark and need any extra care??
Also I've searched about this but if timing was retarted and all one was doing was highway driving would 87 octane be alright to use or would it be better to scrounge up the 300 extra per year and just use premium?
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Jay J)
I don't see a point in spending money on an ITR if you're planning on effectively running it slower than Honda intended.
You're also factoring in security and insurance, right?
You're also factoring in security and insurance, right?
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Jay J)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jay J »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also I've searched about this but if timing was retarted and all one was doing was highway driving would 87 octane be alright to use or would it be better to scrounge up the 300 extra per year and just use premium?</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you are worried about the extra money spent on 92 octane I would say an ITR is not for you. Along with insurance and security the price of 92 octane is a non-factor.
You are worried about it lasting to 200k miles but you want to retard the timeing and feed it 87octane so you can save a few hundred bucks over a year?
If you are worried about the extra money spent on 92 octane I would say an ITR is not for you. Along with insurance and security the price of 92 octane is a non-factor.
You are worried about it lasting to 200k miles but you want to retard the timeing and feed it 87octane so you can save a few hundred bucks over a year?
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (erikiksaz1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by erikiksaz1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't see a point in spending money on an ITR if you're planning on effectively running it slower than Honda intended.
You're also factoring in security and insurance, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Security and Insurance should be convered for the most part.
But if I were to do a lot of highway driving I suppose the R could be filled up with premium
You're also factoring in security and insurance, right?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Security and Insurance should be convered for the most part.
But if I were to do a lot of highway driving I suppose the R could be filled up with premium
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Jay J)
i'd say.. if you want the ITR to make 200K.... you might want to put that 91 in there cuz compression is kinda high, and it might not be wise to risk it.
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Jay J)
118,000 on the clock now and heading out to CA and back from NC in April....not a care in the world about it. 93 Octane everytime..... 
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Madspeed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Madspeed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">118,000 on the clock now and heading out to CA and back from NC in April....not a care in the world about it. 93 Octane everytime..... </TD></TR></TABLE>'
Any extra care out of the ordinary for it?
Or just the "scheduled maintenance?"
</TD></TR></TABLE>'Any extra care out of the ordinary for it?
Or just the "scheduled maintenance?"
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (orphanageITR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by orphanageITR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
If you are worried about the extra money spent on 92 octane I would say an ITR is not for you. Along with insurance and security the price of 92 octane is a non-factor.
You are worried about it lasting to 200k miles but you want to retard the timeing and feed it 87octane so you can save a few hundred bucks over a year?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly. This is why there are LS, GS and GSR Integras. Or consider a used RSX.
If you are worried about the extra money spent on 92 octane I would say an ITR is not for you. Along with insurance and security the price of 92 octane is a non-factor.
You are worried about it lasting to 200k miles but you want to retard the timeing and feed it 87octane so you can save a few hundred bucks over a year?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly. This is why there are LS, GS and GSR Integras. Or consider a used RSX.
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Alot of people have well over 100k on their ITR's. That's also with track duty and other abuse etc.
Normal maintenance should yield you high mileage on an ITR, taking into consideration that the OG owner took the same care of it as you do from the beginning.
The price difference between 87 and 91/92/93 are so minimal when you think about it that there's really no choice. Like others said, if you retard the timing and pump cheap gas in it you aren't getting the full experience. If that's the case go out and buy a lesser model Integra and save save money on gas and insurance.
Normal maintenance should yield you high mileage on an ITR, taking into consideration that the OG owner took the same care of it as you do from the beginning.
The price difference between 87 and 91/92/93 are so minimal when you think about it that there's really no choice. Like others said, if you retard the timing and pump cheap gas in it you aren't getting the full experience. If that's the case go out and buy a lesser model Integra and save save money on gas and insurance.
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Jay J)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jay J »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also I've searched about this but if timing was retarted and all one was doing was highway driving would 87 octane be alright to use or would it be better to scrounge up the 300 extra per year and just use premium?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you interested in a Type R just so you can tell people that you have a Type R? I kind of doubt you want it because of its handling, power, balance, and feel.
I suggest you save yourself a lot of money and just invest in some "Type R" stickers. People you don't know will be equally impressed, and people you do won't think any less of you than if you put 87 octane in it and never took it above 3000rpm and complained about constantly having to shift it and a lack of more cup holders.
Are you interested in a Type R just so you can tell people that you have a Type R? I kind of doubt you want it because of its handling, power, balance, and feel.
I suggest you save yourself a lot of money and just invest in some "Type R" stickers. People you don't know will be equally impressed, and people you do won't think any less of you than if you put 87 octane in it and never took it above 3000rpm and complained about constantly having to shift it and a lack of more cup holders.
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Give the kid a break,
thinking he'll have enough self control to never rev an R to save money is pretty much a no brainer man, Been there, done that...
comon, get real man.
I take it you've probably never driven an R, otherwise you would know that your so hooked on vtec that you'll want it to go faster, eventually. When you'll see how expensive it gets to make it faster, then you'll see that the extra power you get just by putting premium fuel in it is actually quite a bargain... lol
thinking he'll have enough self control to never rev an R to save money is pretty much a no brainer man, Been there, done that...
comon, get real man.
I take it you've probably never driven an R, otherwise you would know that your so hooked on vtec that you'll want it to go faster, eventually. When you'll see how expensive it gets to make it faster, then you'll see that the extra power you get just by putting premium fuel in it is actually quite a bargain... lol
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Ed 341)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ed 341 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Exactly. This is why there are LS, GS and GSR Integras. Or consider a used RSX.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't run a GS-R with 87 either. Or an RSX-S.
GS-R's are not for people who like to run 87 octane to save money, nor are they much cheaper for insurance.
Exactly. This is why there are LS, GS and GSR Integras. Or consider a used RSX.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldn't run a GS-R with 87 either. Or an RSX-S.
GS-R's are not for people who like to run 87 octane to save money, nor are they much cheaper for insurance.
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Jay J)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jay J »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also I've searched about this but if timing was retarted and all one was doing was highway driving would 87 octane be alright to use or would it be better to scrounge up the 300 extra per year and just use premium?</TD></TR></TABLE>
As others have aptly pointed out, if you can't afford to use premium, you shouldn't be spending all the extra money for an ITR. Also, there probably are NO savings in doing so. When you use regular gas in a car designed for premium, such as the ITR (and Integra GS-R), the car's performance is worse - and performance can mean not just torque/horsepower and acceleration, but also mileage. All you need is to get two fewer miles per gallon and you're not saving ANY money on gasoline at all.
BTW, the difference in the cost of gas is probably a lot less than $300 per year, anyway. The difference is $.20 per gallon, and the ITR gets 25-30 miles per gallon. That means that the difference in cost is between .67 and .8 cent per mile (less than a penny per mile). So you would need to drive 37500-45000 miles per year for the difference to be $300. If you drive a more typical 15000 miles per year, the difference is $100-120.
As others have aptly pointed out, if you can't afford to use premium, you shouldn't be spending all the extra money for an ITR. Also, there probably are NO savings in doing so. When you use regular gas in a car designed for premium, such as the ITR (and Integra GS-R), the car's performance is worse - and performance can mean not just torque/horsepower and acceleration, but also mileage. All you need is to get two fewer miles per gallon and you're not saving ANY money on gasoline at all.
BTW, the difference in the cost of gas is probably a lot less than $300 per year, anyway. The difference is $.20 per gallon, and the ITR gets 25-30 miles per gallon. That means that the difference in cost is between .67 and .8 cent per mile (less than a penny per mile). So you would need to drive 37500-45000 miles per year for the difference to be $300. If you drive a more typical 15000 miles per year, the difference is $100-120.
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Jay J)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jay J »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">'
Any extra care out of the ordinary for it?
Or just the "scheduled maintenance?"</TD></TR></TABLE>
scheduled maintenace as far as I know....I didnt buy it new, but I rev it hard everytime i drive her....and no truoble.
Any extra care out of the ordinary for it?
Or just the "scheduled maintenance?"</TD></TR></TABLE>
scheduled maintenace as far as I know....I didnt buy it new, but I rev it hard everytime i drive her....and no truoble.
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Madspeed)
I have 108k on mine and its more reliable then my DD accord. Its all about how welll the previous owner treated/maintained the car.
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (walker111)
I'm sure I could fill it up with premium...
Car> new camera stuff
What major services might need to be done to a ITR around 120k miles?
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What major services might need to be done to a ITR around 120k miles?
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (walker111)
The ITR is great, but the Subaru is not a bad choice either.
Consumer Reports actually reported Subaru's as the most reliable car manufacturer not too long ago in their annual auto issue. Ahead of Toyota, Lexus AND Honda and Acura.
Consumer Reports actually reported Subaru's as the most reliable car manufacturer not too long ago in their annual auto issue. Ahead of Toyota, Lexus AND Honda and Acura.
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (tommymoose)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tommymoose »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The ITR is great, but the Subaru is not a bad choice either.
Consumer Reports actually reported Subaru's as the most reliable car manufacturer not too long ago in their annual auto issue. Ahead of Toyota, Lexus AND Honda and Acura.</TD></TR></TABLE>
very hard to believe man, i guess though...
how about get a used LS integra + your new camera stuff
Consumer Reports actually reported Subaru's as the most reliable car manufacturer not too long ago in their annual auto issue. Ahead of Toyota, Lexus AND Honda and Acura.</TD></TR></TABLE>
very hard to believe man, i guess though...
how about get a used LS integra + your new camera stuff
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (JUN.R)
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very hard to believe man, i guess though...
how about get a used LS integra + your new camera stuff</TD></TR></TABLE>
Cough Alexander cough....
its ok for the next year or so though. I get to use the school's top notch nikon gear
very hard to believe man, i guess though...
how about get a used LS integra + your new camera stuff
</TD></TR></TABLE>Cough Alexander cough....
its ok for the next year or so though. I get to use the school's top notch nikon gear
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (Jay J)
It would be "retarted" to buy an ITR...then retard the timing to run 87
It says "premium fuel only" on the cluster for a reason
But theres really no reason why an ITR would be any less reliable than another honda if its not redlined all the time and properly taken care of
It says "premium fuel only" on the cluster for a reason
But theres really no reason why an ITR would be any less reliable than another honda if its not redlined all the time and properly taken care of
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lustedp »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Find a cheaper gas station... south bay has some of the cheapest pumps in LA. I regularly gas premium for what the pumps on the westside sell regular unleaded for...
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If I lived in Lake Elsinore I could get premium for less than unleaded well around, a 10-12% discount (families station)
But as stated above, I can run premium on it, it was just a question if the ITR would be able to run it. But I see that damage could be caused so I'll just run the 91..
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If I lived in Lake Elsinore I could get premium for less than unleaded well around, a 10-12% discount (families station)
But as stated above, I can run premium on it, it was just a question if the ITR would be able to run it. But I see that damage could be caused so I'll just run the 91..
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Re: Would an older/higher mileage ITR be just as reliable as the usual "Honda"? (nsxtasy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ce in the cost of gas is probably a lot less than $300 per year, anyway. The difference is $.20 per gallon, and the ITR gets 25-30 miles per gallon. That means that the difference in cost is between .67 and .8 cent per mile (less than a penny per mile). So you would need to drive 37500-45000 miles per year for the difference to be $300. If you drive a more typical 15000 miles per year, the difference is $100-120.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Gas is cheaper in the US than pretty much anywhere, yet people seem to obsess about its cost here more than, well, pretty much anywhere. Find something else to worry about - as nsxtasy pointed out, the difference between premium and cheapo gas is well below the price of a few nights out. Hell, one night out where I live.
And it is hard to think of a worse highway vehicle than a Type-R. For $14k you could buy a 1995-1997 BMW M3 for highway cruising. Infinitely superior than a Type-R for this task (and faster and - arguably - better handling to boot).
Gas is cheaper in the US than pretty much anywhere, yet people seem to obsess about its cost here more than, well, pretty much anywhere. Find something else to worry about - as nsxtasy pointed out, the difference between premium and cheapo gas is well below the price of a few nights out. Hell, one night out where I live.
And it is hard to think of a worse highway vehicle than a Type-R. For $14k you could buy a 1995-1997 BMW M3 for highway cruising. Infinitely superior than a Type-R for this task (and faster and - arguably - better handling to boot).