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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:03 PM
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stock d16a6 1990 civic Si

ok so heres the deal
i just replaced the head gasket, and all the other gaskets
got the head back on and torqued everything to specs
everything is put back together but she wont start
she wants to start up, cranks to it but just wont
my friend was watching the motor and he said the dizzy was moving
i havent seen it do that yet, but its hard to see from inside.
does anyone have any insight on this?
replace the coil or dizzy?
any help is awesome
or anyone in salem/keizer who could check it out would be great

sorry for the ramble on
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:10 PM
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so is it getting fuel or is it gettin spark or is it getting fuel and spark?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:11 PM
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its getting fuel and spark
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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double check the timming 9 outa 10 times when you get fuel and spark and still no fire its timming... even if you already checked it check it again than once its running check it agian with a light
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:19 PM
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did you put a old spark plug on a wire and let it sit on a ground to check for spark?

can you hear the fuel pump prime when you turn the key on?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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we checked the timing yesterday, its good
new plug in a wire, got spark
yep fuel pump primes
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:42 PM
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well then it should start, timing belt on right. double check
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:03 PM
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1. Spark plug wire order
2. Timing
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:33 PM
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have you checked your ecu to see if you are throwing any codes?
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:41 PM
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Needs fuel (gas)
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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Check the grounds as well.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:24 AM
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ill try to get on those suggestions, thanks guys
but I was just wondering, what about the rocking distributor?
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bhinkley45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ill try to get on those suggestions, thanks guys
but I was just wondering, what about the rocking distributor?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The distributor is moving? Tighten it down! The spark timing will be off.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:23 AM
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Make sure your distributor is on the right way. Don't just check the timing. I've asked a few times why my timing was off, they told me 180 degrees of timing is hard to correct. I had put in the distributor upside down then the timing haha.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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the distributor is on tight.
Ill take it off and turn it then try it out
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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now I cant hear the fuel pump prime

I checked the battery, just to make sure
checked the spark plug wires are in the right order
shes closer to starting than before
I still have to get someone here with a timing light
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bhinkley45 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">now I cant hear the fuel pump prime</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is the main relay clicking? Are all of your grounds good?
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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I had the exact same thing happen to me last week- but with my b16. You put the dizzy on wrong. Take it off, and rotate the rotor 180 degrees, and install it again. I bet it'll turn right over. Let us know how it goes.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Targa250R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Is the main relay clicking? Are all of your grounds good?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah its clicking. I think theyre good

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by naptownrex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had the exact same thing happen to me last week- but with my b16. You put the dizzy on wrong. Take it off, and rotate the rotor 180 degrees, and install it again. I bet it'll turn right over. Let us know how it goes.</TD></TR></TABLE>
did it and no start

Its getting looked at by someone way more experienced 2morrow
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:57 PM
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maybe the resitor box
maybe bad ground
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:01 PM
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i bet you its timing!!
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Remove the dizzy, then rotate the rotor 180, and put it back in. Does it seem to fit better? The slot is not symmetric, if it is backwards it will wobble. Your cam timing is fine, it is your spark timing that is 180 off.
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Old Feb 22, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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bump for an update- im curious to know what the diagnosis is
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Old Feb 23, 2006 | 07:51 AM
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hopefully ill have an update tonight, ive been working long hours and no one has had time to get here to help me out
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