i want mine to last a long time (over 100k). i have a 2001 gsr with 14k mi on it. i'm bout to take the big leap and go turbo with a t3/t4 turbo and maxrevs mani. i have somone helping me piece it all together. they have built custom turbos in the past. give me your input on how long your motors in the past have lasted you.

 

I doubt it will last 100k, but I guess it will depend on the following things:
1.- how hard your drive,
2.- The type of setup,
3.- Tuning (VERY IMPORTANT- HINT HINT!)

I have heard of people blowing their motors, and I mean literally putting a hole on the block.
Somepeople blow their motors after only 10k-20k miles, but again it all depends.
Just do not expect the motor to be as reliable as it is now before FI. You will also have reliability problems (oil leaks, etc) along the way until the motor reaches its life expectancy (dies). just think about it, you are ramming all that air into an engine that, no matter what anyone else says, was not designed for FI. IMO

 

the only way to get a long lasting motor is to go na? na is sooo expensive and don't yield the kinda power turbo does. i'm bout to my a maxrev mani and a t3/t4 turbo. but i'm afraid of reliability and how long the motor is gonna last. i'm planning on getting hondata along with this. right now its either turbo or cams. my original plan was aem/header/e with itr cams and gears. then a vafc then a s2 intake mani. with just these i'll barely hit like 180 whp i think??? what kinda times should i see with this.

 

If you want to go fast it will cost money and yes it will affect reliability if you go FI. You can't "have the cake and eat too". Do you know what I mean? Yes, FI is the most cost effective way to go fast. It is YOUR decision!
If you REALLy want to go fast, buy a good turbo kit and have a good shop install it and do the tuning and you will be fine for a while. Also, do not stay in full boost for more than 30 sec at a time.
Again, I am not saying your engine will blow up right away, but do not expect it to last 100k miles or to be as reliable as going NA.

 

what about the jrsc route. would that work well with itr cams? i heard these are very reliable and last a long long time.

 

if you are going FI, keep the GSr cams

 

Is the poor reliability of a turbo mostly because of people running too much boost on stock internals?

ie: if one were to build up the bottom end, and keep relatively low boost it would increase the reliability right?

 

there are a few turbo cams available that make good power if you do go this route. the more solid your build is and the better the tuning, the longer it will last.

 

if u build ur block it'll last longer

 

It will all depend on how you drive and how you take care of it. Even a stock car won't hold up if you beat on it and don't maintain it....

Also, N/A isn't necessarily going to be "reliable" either, esp if you're revving to 9000 rpm all day long. Look at my car, it's a mess, lol.

Clearly, taking our tiny motors and extracting lots of power out of them is going to hurt reliability and/or require additional maintenance. Actually, making lots of power with any car is a challenge on the parts themselves and the person maintaining it...

TINSTAFL - There Is No Such Thing As a Free Lunch.

Anyway, it will come down to planning, tuning, and MONEY. Good luck!

FB

 

I was just going to say that. For those saying that N/A is more reliable then FI, you're wrong. Driving a car with high high compression is just as bad as driving a car at 8psi of boost. Its all about how well u take care of that car.

 

Shouldn't a supercharger be somewhat more reliable than a turbo?

 

that's what i was thinking...

 

I agree. A n/a car will not be reliable either if you rev it like crazy to 10k rpm's!
If you spend enough money building the bottom end, then you should have a more reliable motor.
If you want to go fast, you simply need to do more maintanace. It is VERY simple!
"can't have the cake and eat it too...."


[Modified by 1fastGSR, 9:37 PM 3/28/2002]

 

Get the right parts, get it installed and tuned properly, and make sure you treat it good and do the maintenance. And it will last a long time.

 

what do you guys think of this set up? since i'm not out for major drag racing power just more power for everyday driving and fast spools. maxrev mani, and a t3 turbo. not the t3t4. i don't think i'm ever gonna be able to use that turbo's potential. maybe 6-7 lbs. a starion intercooler and tial wastegate and greddy bov. what kinda hp am i gonna see with this. i want to go supercharger but will this setup be just as reliable as the jrsc? its a small turbo so i'm guessing it shouldn't put too much stress on the motor. i see some of you guys pushing 7-8 getting like 270 hp. i don't think i want that yet. i'm on a tight budget too. tell me what you think?

 

also what injector size. do you think that the hondata 2b will be good enough?

 

Why don't you have a piece of both worlds and get your cams and other NA stuff then later get a small nitrous kit. This way you wouldn't allways be putting so much strain on your motor like you would with a turbo kit.

 

if you got an integra and dont want to remove or relocate ur a/c fan you might want to consider another manifold. i personally have the maxrev setup and FYI the turbo wont sit closer to the block like the other manifolds no matter who tells you that it does. just giving you a heads up just in case you dont want the hassle but it you dont mind then more power to you.

 

i think jackson racing warrenties there product for 100,000 miles for a reason. so the supercharger would be the best way to go fast and stay reliable.

 

my car is all stock. what would i have to do if i got a jrsc??

 

Have $3-4K to spend, for one.

You may need to drop compression. I think you are running 9.3:1 now, and many drop down to 8 or 8.5:1. So new pistons (and then you ought to port and polish, get new rods, possibly cams and valvegear, etc., since you are diassembling everything anyhow).

It may also be possible to cut back how much boost you're getting to save the stock internals and get by w/o anything but bolting it on and getting I/H/E.

 

Well, having a turbo is better than having an LS/Vtec... IMO. But it makes me think twice about getting a turbo. Sounds like JRSC is better off in the long run for a daily driver. I don't have to worry about that anyways. I/E/H w/ 120K and it still runs good (for a daily driver).

 

they warranty the supercharger fro 100k miles, NOT the engine!

 

definitely go TURBO. dont let these guys scare you at all. i was thinkin about sellin my turbo and goin LSvtec for reliability measures and all that crap. when it really comes down to it... i decided to keep my turbo cuz no N/A setup can compensate for the power you get from turbo.

turbo is reliable if you tune and install things properly. just keep in mind... TURBO not only accelerates your car a whole lot faster... it accelerates the wear and tear on the motor. build your motor and it will last long.

just do it man...