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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:03 AM
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i ordered these shocks from and HT sponsor and i just got it yesterday. i opened the box and saw that they did not come with bumpstops. am i supposed to use my stock bump stops? or am i supposed to buy some bumpstops from koni or something? thanks
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DLudist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> am i supposed to use my stock bump stops? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, and cut them according to the spring manufacturer's specifications (usually in half).
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:53 PM
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i thought that koni yellows have a larger shaft diameter. would the stock bump stops still fit?
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:12 AM
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here's your solution.

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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is that necessary?
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:46 AM
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How do you get the bump stop off the stock shock?
There is a welded ring that is bigger than the bump stop...
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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its not welded. (it shouldnt be) just bang it off.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DLudist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that necessary?</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do you mean? is a bumpstop necessary?
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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You right, just tried that now
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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in some cases, the bumpstops aren't supposed to be cut. for example, installing on my integra, the bumpstops fit perfectly without resizing. all it required was a bit of grease to get it on.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DLudist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is that necessary?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you mean hollowing out the bumpstop to fit on a Koni, yes it is necessary.

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you mean hollowing out the bumpstop to fit on a Koni, yes it is necessary. </TD></TR></TABLE>

My stock rear bumpstops fit on my Konis with no issues. Granted, they aren't loose on the shaft, but they can slide easy enough that i don't see how it could be a problem. Don't know about the front, I'm using the bump stops provided by Ground Control.
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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i meant hollowing out the stock bump stops
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Old Feb 19, 2006 | 11:48 PM
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If you mean hollowing out the bumpstop to fit on a Koni, yes it is necessary. </TD></TR></TABLE>
No, hollowing out a stock bump stop is not necessary to install it on a Koni. The working rod diameters are both 12 mm so you really shouldn't hollow them out. The externally adjustable Konis start out at 12mm at the top vs. 10mm for the stock shcoks. There is a welded ring (about 14.0-14.5mm OD) on the Koni to create a landing for the lower washer for the upper mount to load onto.

If you simply take the stock bump rubber in one hand and the Koni rod in the other hand, pull the bump rubber down over the ring while twisting it in a circle as if you were threading a nut down over it and you will find that it moves over and past the welded ring without great difficulty. If you try to force it straight down over the top without twisting it, it is much more difficult to expand the foam over the ring but simply turning it while you pull it down will make a very big difference.
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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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would koni yellow shaft fit on stock prelude upper mounts w/o having to drill the mount to 12mm?
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Old Feb 26, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DLudist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would koni yellow shaft fit on stock prelude upper mounts w/o having to drill the mount to 12mm? </TD></TR></TABLE>

The only think that gets drilled out on a Honda is the hole in the dust cover if you reuse it. The upper mount does not get drilled out as Koni supplies a new 12mm ID tube that goes through the upper pin rubbers. I am guesing maybe you saw comments about the ITR or S2000 where that tube is bonded into the rubber and not removable so it needs to bbe drilled out. This is not the case with the Prelude as the tube is not bonded in the rubber and a new one is supplied with the shocks.
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Old Feb 27, 2006 | 09:14 AM
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thanks crx-lee
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 09:37 AM
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Just curious, but would it be a problem if the bump stops were so loose that they rested on the shock body?
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by supapoopa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just curious, but would it be a problem if the bump stops were so loose that they rested on the shock body?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No.
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Old Mar 2, 2006 | 10:50 AM
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Thank you.
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