i have a 94 accord i belive it has a f22b? i want to see if its possible for me to put a b18 block and h22a so i want have to get the whole engine cuase its kinda costly.thankz for any replies just wondering on this

 

If you have an EX model, you have an F22B1 (2.2L SOHC VTEC).

No B series anything is good in 90+ year Accords.

The H22 motor is an option.

You could even swap the head of an H22 onto your F22 block. Do some searching and you'll find some info on it. It's been done before.

 

thankz for the reply thats what i was trying to say but a block or w.e of a H22 and also is it a real pain to make a automatic to manual?thankz for the help

 

it's involved to swap an automatic to manual but it can be done. I'll see if I can find a thread on it.

Also, here is a thread on the H22 head onto an F22 block.
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=776837
There are a couple other threads on this in the FAQ thread in the Prelude forum.

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1372230
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1237137
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1235221

Those are just a few threads on swapping the automatic tranny with a manual tranny.

 

thankz this helped alot it really helped alot

 

glad to help

 

hey one more question it would be better to put a prelude 5 speed instead of a accord 5 speed or are they the same?

 

Most people, I think, prefer the H22 tranny because of the shorter gears. But there are some who stay with the F22 tranny or maybe the H23 tranny. Personally, I would go H22, but it's up to you. It really depends on what your plan is for your car.

Here is a link to gear ratios.
http://www.accordinglydone.com...s.php

 

hey i going to go to the junk tomorrow and look for an h22 head if i find one what are they things i should look for and also what are the problems that can happen if the transmission is installed wrong like what parts can break

 

I have an accord tranny in my *L*accord I just did a 5spd swap.For driving back roads I wish I had the h22 trans Here in Kentucky we have the best back roads in the world man.Like 20 curves per mile.I love it
The gears are to tall in the f tranny I always find my self stuck between 2nd and 3rd.
But Ive heard guys with the H tranny say that thier at like 4000 rpm at 70 mph on the highway to.So that kind of holds me back from wanting one.so I live with the F.

DOes anyone know if the h23 trans a middle ground between the H22 and F22 trans?

 

One question, in all of those threads they were for 5th gen's. Would it be much different for a 7th gen? I plan on doing a auto -> manual swap in the near future.

 

well, your pretty much going to need the intake manifold, exhaust manifold, thermostat housing, distributor, valve cover and complete head.

Your also going to need things like new timing belt, new head gasket and new valve gasket set. And since you have everything apart you might as well replace things like the water pump, balancer shaft belt, balancer shaft seal retainer (if not yet done), pretty much things you replace when doing a timing belt job.

Not sure how you would install the tranny wrong. Just follow the steps and make sure you do everything in reverse when reinstalling. If you have some nuts/bolts left over when your done, you know you missed something somewhere. But if you did install it wrong, I would assume you could maybe mess up the starter or flywheel, maybe the clutch or the tranny itself. Not real sure. It's not a real hard thing to do, just get a manual like a Helm's and just follow the procedure step for step and you should have any problems.

For what your planning on doing, I would get a Helm manual. With that in hand and the write-ups to compare to, you shouldn't have much of a problem if any.

 

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if your worried about gas mileage I would think throttle position would play more of a role than just the rpm alone. I have a D16Y8 in my hatch and I think at 70 I'm around 3500. On my way to and from work, half of my drive is freeway and half is regular. I get an average of 38 mpg. Now I know they are two different motors and cars, but even with me driving half the time at 3500 rpm I still get good gas mileage. Now when we took my car to Wisconsin a couple years ago, I was averaging about 43 mpg doing 70-75 the whole way. So I don't think it would hurt your gas mileage, besides, I would rather have the better gearing IMO.

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The H23 might have slightly longer gears than the H22 but the final drive of both trannies is the same. I don't know if you would see much of a difference between the two. But maybe someone with experience with both the H23 and H22 trannies can clear that up.

 

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That I don't know. I'm guessing the parts list would be somewhat similar, but I don't know what mods if any would be needed. Also, how hard do you think it would be to find the needed parts? I mean, how many manual 7th gen Accords are out in the junkyards? Not to sound like a downer, I'm just wondering.

I don't know if I've even seen a thread on a 7th gen auto to manual. Maybe you could be the first and do a write up for other 7th gen owners who might want to do it as well.

 

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That I don't know. I'm guessing the parts list would be somewhat similar, but I don't know what mods if any would be needed. Also, how hard do you think it would be to find the needed parts? I mean, how many manual 7th gen Accords are out in the junkyards? Not to sound like a downer, I'm just wondering.

I don't know if I've even seen a thread on a 7th gen auto to manual. Maybe you could be the first and do a write up for other 7th gen owners who might want to do it as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly, I don't know if there is a 7th gen in a junkyard anyways, let alone a manual one.

I'm taking it into a shop and having someone help me with it, because first off I'm not mechanically inclined and haven't done much work on my car, and secondly it would help if 2 people were doing it.

Worst case I could get some needed parts aftermarket or from Honda, but that would up the ante money wise. Depending on financial problems, I should be able to complete this in somewhere around 2 months.

 

sounds good.

Yeah, you can buy parts from Honda but that will end up costing more. But I guess you'll have to do what needs to be done if you want to have a manual tranny.

Good luck with everything. Also, make sure you take tons of pictures and do a write-up. I'm sure it'll come up more often as more people with 7th gen autos decide they want a manual.

Did you buy this car new from Honda? If so, why didn't you just get it with a manual instead? Just wondering, would have saved you all this trouble.