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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 07:22 AM
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Are you running a washer before the axle nut on the hub?



as you can see, the axle nut seems to barely cover the hub, its tight and everything, just wanted to see what others were doing.

Also, anyone got an idea why they don't put the brake rotor holes in the hubs?

also, factory torque specs?
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 08:17 AM
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Yes, run the washers!!! That is why they are included!!! You can use the factory tq. specs as well. As for the brake screw holes, they dont do them because they are not needed.
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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hrmmm, none were included in my axles, probably why i didn't think about it then. any certain spec washer I need to buy/run?
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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You need to run the washers.....
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Old Feb 13, 2006 | 05:02 PM
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hmmm.. i run the big nut on there and it covers that whole hub center without a washer..
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 05:42 AM
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where are these phantom washers?

that's strange about your hub versus mine, maybe its generation difference. I thought it was strange that the axle spines didn't come all the way to the edge of the hub as well, but its all the way in, the axle is firm against the spindle.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:47 AM
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rota92 just PMed me and since my work is anti-java scripts, i'll reply here...

I went with DSS stg5 for two reasons: price wasn't that bad compared to the Pro-Drive stg 2 or 7 or whatever number they are on and i did like the idea of upgrading to bigger hubs, as i constantly killed axles at the hubs.

although the machine shop that pressed on my new bearings did bugger a few threads on the hubs on the inside, but that's why i have a big hammer.

anyone else notice the C-clip on these things is way lose, i'm never going to get my axles out of my tranny.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 09:42 AM
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The stage 5's have been working good for me so far. I just want to know everybodies feelings on this issue. Does it really matter that the outer hub is increased in diameter when the inner spline is the same size as stock just higher quality material? The weak link is still the inner spline.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by msmotorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The stage 5's have been working good for me so far. I just want to know everybodies feelings on this issue. Does it really matter that the outer hub is increased in diameter when the inner spline is the same size as stock just higher quality material? The weak link is still the inner spline. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you talking about the inner spline? The DSS level 5's have a larger more toothed spline then both Mark Williams and Rob Moore. As for the inner, DSS stage 6 kit comes with a larger inner with a spool. Still though, I havnt seen issues with the level 5's they way they are produced.
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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how much were these with the 5lug hubs?
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16hybridsol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much were these with the 5lug hubs?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Check out our website. http://www.laskeyracing.com We sell them 5 lug at no extra charge.

As for the missing washers...hehe, I have a set coming your way
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Old Feb 14, 2006 | 11:09 PM
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when I got my dss 5's they did not come with washers..but 1 call to dss and 1 day later washers where at my door step..

seems they had forgot them but overnighted them to me..
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 03:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seen4ever &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rota92 just PMed me and since my work is anti-java scripts, i'll reply here...

I went with DSS stg5 for two reasons: price wasn't that bad compared to the Pro-Drive stg 2 or 7 or whatever number they are on and i did like the idea of upgrading to bigger hubs, as i constantly killed axles at the hubs.

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How do these compare to Pro Drive stage 2? in every aspect
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 04:43 AM
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they don't compare in every aspect, as they don't have the replacement spool, the DSS stg 6 would be the comparison, but I had heard and seen that the pro-drive is ungodly strong, considered them but the 3k price tag was a bit much, laskey's price on the DSS stg 5 was pretty good and it supported my 5-lug.

i was really going between gator & dss stg 5, the gater were a bit cheaper, but i liked the idea of having a bigger outer spine at the hubs; as that was where i broke most of my stock axles at.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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So these are special washers? I dont think I have any washers with my kit.
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Old Feb 15, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seen4ever &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they don't compare in every aspect, as they don't have the replacement spool, the DSS stg 6 would be the comparison, but I had heard and seen that the pro-drive is ungodly strong, considered them but the 3k price tag was a bit much, laskey's price on the DSS stg 5 was pretty good and it supported my 5-lug.

i was really going between gator & dss stg 5, the gater were a bit cheaper, but i liked the idea of having a bigger outer spine at the hubs; as that was where i broke most of my stock axles at.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You'll be very happy with the DSS axles. I bought mine used and befor me came off of a race car and they have yet to be broken. My quaife broke before my axles did. Thank god for a quality part from quaife too, had that within a week! Great customer service!
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 04:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seen4ever &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they don't compare in every aspect, as they don't have the replacement spool, the DSS stg 6 would be the comparison, but I had heard and seen that the pro-drive is ungodly strong, considered them but the 3k price tag was a bit much, laskey's price on the DSS stg 5 was pretty good and it supported my 5-lug.

i was really going between gator & dss stg 5, the gater were a bit cheaper, but i liked the idea of having a bigger outer spine at the hubs; as that was where i broke most of my stock axles at.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm glad I have the Pro-drive stage 2 axles then
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 05:07 AM
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well that' 3k pricetag or whatever isn't cheap either, plus i won't run a spool... just not feasible for a street car. I have a obx lsd in a b16 tranny right now, but i may convert back to my GSR tranny i ran last year, but throw a quaife in it. I got the b16 tranny for free, after the guy killed his diff, so i went low cost on rebuilting it, since i'm unsure if i'll like the short gears.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 808 DB8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So these are special washers? I dont think I have any washers with my kit. </TD></TR></TABLE>


So of them come with axle nuts that have a washer built in. If you have been running the car already with no issues, im sure you are fine.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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No, havent put it in yet. Ill have to check the box to see if it has washers or not. I didnt see any though.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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The local parts store should carry a flanged axle nut for that.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seen4ever &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well that' 3k pricetag or whatever isn't cheap either, plus i won't run a spool... just not feasible for a street car. I have a obx lsd in a b16 tranny right now, but i may convert back to my GSR tranny i ran last year, but throw a quaife in it. I got the b16 tranny for free, after the guy killed his diff, so i went low cost on rebuilting it, since i'm unsure if i'll like the short gears.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do u have to run spool with these axles cause I have b16 with obx diff also.
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Old Feb 16, 2006 | 06:15 PM
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nope obx lsd, this is a street car, a spool in my mind isn't streetable. but if i tire of the b16 tranny, i'm going to move back to my GSR tranny from last season
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 03:18 AM
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[QUOTE=seen4ever]nope obx lsd, this is a street car, a spool in my mind isn't streetable. but if i tire of the b16 tranny, i'm going to move back to my GSR tranny from last season[/QUOT

Do u have to run spool with prodrive axles in my situation?
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 04:24 AM
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i thougth the big boy pro-drive kit upgraded the inner splines, therefore making you have to run thier spool, this is why the kit included the spool, intermediate shaft in the kit.

we may be talking about different versions of the Pro-Drive axle kit. stg 1 is pretty much like the DSS stg 5, their stg 2 has a spool, intermediate shaft and is told to support up to 28in slicks and over 900whp. so it should be pretty easy to see which you have, as one, the axle will fit into your diff, the other will not.
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