I'm currently installing my ground control set up for koni yellows. I don't know what the long black thing is called but is that required with the installation? I already have the set up installed but its giving my ride a pretty rough ride. It bounces a lot. I hope someone knows what I'm talking because any help is appreciated.

 

the long black thig is just a boot to keep mud and dirt away from the strut shaft, i would reccomend using it. If dirt gets on the shaft it can get pulled in the strut when it occilates and slowly destroy the seal causing premature leakage and eventualy strut failure.

 

most instructions tell you to cut like 1.5 inches off of it, that's what i did.
BTW i have GC.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TEGG DC4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm currently installing my ground control set up for koni yellows. I don't know what the long black thing is called but is that required with the installation? I already have the set up installed but its giving my ride a pretty rough ride. It bounces a lot. I hope someone knows what I'm talking because any help is appreciated.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it is not required.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blkb18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the long black thig is just a boot to keep mud and dirt away from the strut shaft, i would reccomend using it. If dirt gets on the shaft it can get pulled in the strut when it occilates and slowly destroy the seal causing premature leakage and eventualy strut failure.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, it could also be true that in addition to keeping some dirt out, it will also keep the dirt that got in, in. Get it? Therefore, the same damage could happen with or without the dust boot.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 00IntegrAllmotoR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">most instructions tell you to cut like 1.5 inches off of it, that's what i did.

BTW i have GC.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The instruction is telling you to cut your oem bumpstop.

The bounciness? try adjusting the "infinite" level of rebound? damping?
bahahahhahahahahaha...

 

You can also buy universal power steering boots from your local auto parts store and use zip ties to install it. These have been protecting forks on motorcycles and shocks on many other applications and will work just fine on our shocks.

I think I have also seen one of the shock manufacturers offering this type boot as a add on you can buy seperately for their shocks, I just can't remember who it was. I just got my Koni's, .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sirg-vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No, it is not required.

The instruction is telling you to cut your oem bumpstop.
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I understand this, on my GC instructions it says to cut the bumpstop in half and the dust boot 1.5 inches.

 

those are the dust covers, it appears to me, and they won't made any difference on ride.

it's pretty rough because GCs have a high spring rate.. don't think there's much you can do except put the shocks on "full soft", which won't do much to soften the ride on GCs.

 

The dust covers will have an affect on the ride if they don't fit over the new shock body. The dust cover will hit the shock body and decrease your suspension travel, acting like a huge bumpstop. When I installed my KYB AGX's, I installed the stock dust cover, and you can see where the dust cover was scraping and bottoming out on the fatter shock body.

 

well, that's an installation error. you should have noticed that the dust cover was too narrow. i don't know how you didn't.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by reno96teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, that's an installation error. you should have noticed that the dust cover was too narrow. i don't know how you didn't.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You said the dust covers won't effect ride, that is a blanket statement. Well , it does affect it if it doesn't fit over the shock body. It wasn't redily apparent that it wouldn't fit over the shock bodies. It was only off about 1 mm. My eyes arent that good. Maybe yours are, more power to you.

 

that stiff bouncy ride? that is what you paid for silly.. why else would you buy Koni/GC?

But you could set your shocks on the softest setting possible.. and maybe raise the car back up a little.. it could be lowered too much where the shocks arent being able to do their thing.

Anything lower than 2 inchs starts to work against what the shocks are supposed to do.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sam92Teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You said the dust covers won't effect ride, that is a blanket statement. Well , it does affect it if it doesn't fit over the shock body. It wasn't redily apparent that it wouldn't fit over the shock bodies. It was only off about 1 mm. My eyes arent that good. Maybe yours are, more power to you.</TD></TR></TABLE>
under normal circumstances, no, it would never affect anything (save any possible long term problems caused by dust and dirt possibly damaging seals).

so, it's a perfectly good blanket statement, because a dust cover's only job is to keep out dirt and dust. if the fitment is bad, it shouldn't be there in the first place.

i mean, i could put a big block of wood between the shock and shock tower. that's going to affect the ride, but it certainly shouldn't be there. that's my point.

saying that a windshield's job is to keep stuff from smashing into your face is a blanket statement too. if i cut a huge hole in the glass, and end up getting smashed in the face, that doesn't mean that that blanket statement still isn't true.

edit &gt; i thought about this, and i got your point now. though it's not a normal occurence, your point is that perhaps his dust covers weren't wide enough, and in turn that affected things for him.. to me.. however, the oem dust cover does fit over the koni yellow shock body just fine.


Modified by reno96teg at 11:24 AM 2/15/2006