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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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Default Good compression/leakdown but burning oil

98 GSR 154k miles
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Compression is 222, 222, 220, 223
Leakdown is 2%, 2%, 2%, 8%

The numbers above are great except #4 has more leakdown than the rest, still not bad though. I use 10w30 conventional and in a mix of driving (mostly easy driving) burn 1 qt every 1000 miles. Is this anything to be concerned over? It has burned at least a qt. every 2000 miles oil since I bought it at 117k miles.
I figured due to the oil burning the leakdown would have shown an issue but that does not seem to be the case...
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 08:38 AM
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I haven't performed a compression test on my 98 gsr (120 k miles) but mine also burns oil. I know 1 qt every 1000 miles is within spec. However, you are running a thicker oil, recommended in the car is 5w30. Sometimes I need a qt (using 5w30) after 900 or so miles. Kinda makes me wonder whats going on but I still get excellent gas mileage (30-31 freeway) and have plenty of power. Just thought I'd bounce that off you.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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its possible that the compression rings are fine but the oil scraper rings are shot so oil is still on the cylinder walls when combustion happens
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:12 AM
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oil entering the combustion chamber will raise compression, by your #'s sounds like your ready for a overhaul, or just keep addin oil.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:52 AM
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Default Re: Good compression/leakdown but burning oil (DarkDragon)

I was using 5-30 for 2 years but haven't noticed a difference either way with the 10-30.

If oil was entering the head would it boost the leakdown numbers as well? I guess there is an arguement if the b18c1 is *suppose* to usually burn some oil or not. The car still runs great so I'll be just adding oil either way, but this is making me curious. I don't see any wet oil on the plugs after idling either, just black soot.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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no, the engine is not cranking durring a leakdown test so oil cant get past the rings.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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do you get into vtec often? that will burn oil
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 12:59 PM
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Not much...once in a while. I might touch redline 2-3 times in a week.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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could be valve stem seals. you could have great compression numbers, but still burn oil.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 03:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MatHadder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could be valve stem seals. you could have great compression numbers, but still burn oil.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good point. Does it smoke at startup?
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 04:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MatHadder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could be valve stem seals. you could have great compression numbers, but still burn oil.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's the first thing that came my mind when I looked at the compression #'s versus the leakdown #'s.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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No smoke at startup. Only some at WOT 4-8k rpm.
I guess it's just, on average, worn for a 150+k mile car.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 09:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkDragon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its possible that the compression rings are fine but the oil scraper rings are shot so oil is still on the cylinder walls when combustion happens </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, this is possible, and often overlooked. the fact that a car has decent compression does not say anything about the oil rings.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by firewalkerr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I haven't performed a compression test on my 98 gsr (120 k miles) but mine also burns oil. I know 1 qt every 1000 miles is within spec. However, you are running a thicker oil, recommended in the car is 5w30. Sometimes I need a qt (using 5w30) after 900 or so miles. Kinda makes me wonder whats going on but I still get excellent gas mileage (30-31 freeway) and have plenty of power. Just thought I'd bounce that off you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

5w30 and 10w30 are both 30w oils. It is the second number that you care about.
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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Default Re: Good compression/leakdown but burning oil (DarkDragon)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DarkDragon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">its possible that the compression rings are fine but the oil scraper rings are shot so oil is still on the cylinder walls when combustion happens </TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree
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