If i have JasonRacing superchager running at stock boost, with AEM CAI, Mugen header 4-1, mugen muffler. HOw much hp i'll be getting at wheel ?
also if i add toda camshaft how much extra hp will i get ? which one is better spoon camshaft or toda ?
thank for answering my stupid question

 

Jackson Racing superchargers have been known to make less power than stock when untuned. You will have to dyno it to find out.

 

i am torn between both myself. i want to go all motor but i also want to charge it... only time and money will tell i guess.

 

Contact Rboosted717 ... he is making alittle over 260 to the wheel.

 

btw, here is his web site http://www.geocities.com/superchargedtyper/

 

first off its a Jackson Racing charger, not a Jason Racing charger.
Next, you can't put NA cams in a FI car. Especally a JRSC car. You need to run boosted or FI cams which in a way don't really exist unless you make your own. Crower makes some, but they havn't had good results with a jackson setup and kinda steer away from JR people.
As for power its hard to say. Not all JRSC cars are the same since tuning is such an issue. I would just go dyno your car and find out for sure. Check Dynojet.com for a list of places near you.

 

soon to be even more power once I have some more time in the next week or two!
Going for 270whp and 175trq!

 

If you mess with cams you would be better off with a GSR intake and the factory R exhaust cam. SC'ers dont like valve overlap. Invest in hondata or/and a J@S Safeguard.

 

What!?!?! If by "untuned" you mean that you forgot to install the manifold, then yes, thats correct

 

Nope - manifold in place - cf. http://www.geocities.com/supercharge...formation.html

 

I would imagine something wasnt installed/setup right...Mike?

 

That was correct...but it appeared to be correctly installed, only after removal and reinstallation was it discovered that there was an error with the original installation.

 

basically the problem in the beginning was the JR relay was wired wrong. the timing was retarded way too much and the car war running leaner then you would want to even know.
After fixing those minor issues on the dyno the car did a 190whp run. Stock R's with the JRSC on them do 180-190whp. I did 182-190whp with a stock R JRSC setup and an intake and exhaust. After more tuning and doing the correct mods, the power kept getting higher. The big limit all JRSC R owners have with the stock 5.5psi is getting over the 200whp and maxing at 215whp. I was able to get 232whp on 8psi with a few more tuning mods and adjusting. With 10psi I was able to get to 250-265whp with even more tuning mods and more tuning with still more to go. Still I havn't even touched the internals of the engine minus the addition of ti-retainers which just make the car safer at higher revs with the boost. Kinda like how a J&S is a protection against blowing an engine.

 

mike,
do you know much boost a JRSC could run? just curious

 

JRSC's require like no tuning for good gains off the bat. Mine was thrown on and timing was retarded. I just advanced it back to stock and any power loss was back in full. I havent dyno'd my LS yet, but a 13.9 does say something, especially since its an automatic.

the blower is said to be good up to 10psi... but I know of people who have gone beyond. the main problem is lack of an intercooler cuz at higher boost, the efficiency of the supercharger is gone and a lot of heat is being put out. with higher boost you will still realize 20% gains over 6psi boost, but its generally not worth it.

However, for autocrossing, its more than decent. you get 2psi at idle and full boost by 2000rpm... boost even exceeds the 6psi mark at higher rpms.

Any other questions hit me up on IM or on the website listed. But to save me some time, if you arent happy with a 40% hp and torque increase... better off going to a turbo or N/A. If you are interested, however, I'll be more than happy to help.

 

The jrsc works very well on the gs-r and ls. But remember guys, were talking about the jrsc on a type R, and that's a whole different ballgame! My install was airtight, and I hit 174whp, lightly tuned (dynojet), with the base 5.5psi kit. Other guys seem to hit between 165whp-180whp depending on the level of tuning. When I say "other guys," I mean the dozen or so jrsc'd type R owners that I've been in touch with over the years helping each other work the kinks out of the kit. I'm sure Mike could tick off the names of another dozen guys in the same boat.

With band-aids (BTC, tps trick, v-afc, J&S) and mucho wideband a/f tuning I hit 190whp. I hit 200whp by replacing all the band-aids with an engine management system. Finally, I reached 218whp when I replaced the header/cat/exhaust, all still at 5.5psi.

My numbers are very typical of other jrsc'd type R's that I've met over the past 2 years. Look, we'd all be jumping for joy if there was the slightest bit of truth to JR's claim that the jrsc on a type R gives a 40% increase in whp. The average type R makes about 163whp. The promised 40% increase would put the car at 228whp!!

I know what it took to get my car to 218whp, and I know the struggles of a lot of other jrsc'd ITR owners to make it past the elusive 200whp mark. Even if Oscar Jackson sold his soul to the devil, there's absolutely, positively no way the base kit, even expertly tuned to the finest, will make 228whp. To put it mildly, the chit hit the fan when all the ITR owners complained to JR that the kit didn't put out anywhere near the promised numbers. You are sadly misinformed if you still think an untuned base jrsc kit on a type R will make anywhere near that kind of power.

I apologize for ranting a bit, but I was pretty p/o'd about JR's false advertising when I bought the kit two years ago, and it upsets me when misinformed people outside the ranks of JR perpetuate the untruths.

 

If your getting 2psi at Idle something is wrong, you shouldnt have any boost at idle.

I made 215hp with 5.5lbs of boost with my stock JR kit and bolt ons. If you do the rights mods and tune it you can make decent power.

scott