Well lets first start of with basics. The block in question is a 96 GSR block, but the numbers/letters have been shaved off years ago. The entire block has been shaved and polished. Problem is I don't know if I can legally run T4/SFWD with this block. So should I attempt to finish the build, or just try to get another block?

Thanks.

 

bump, anyone? it is not a stolen block btw, I know many assume this, but its not I assure you.

 

Dart blocks are legal in t4 and do not have any numbers on them. I dont think it will be legal for sfwd.

 

anyone else? I need to know so I can either sell the block or use it.

 

As long as its a factory honda block its legal in NHRA.
Its the Porkers you have to worry about.

 

Take a look at the engine section of the rules for NHRA Hot Rod, then compare them to SFWD and tell me how any block (aftermarket or not) that is "based on" a production piece is illegal for SFWD.

Sport Front:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ENGINE:
Engine swaps permitted. Engine must be from same manufacturer
as body. Engine must be overhead-cam, production-based design.
Maximum two power adders. Redundant power adders, such as a
dual stage nitrous system or twin turbos, will be counted as one
power adder. Engine must be in stock, transverse configuration.
Dry sump oil system, or external oil pumps prohibited unless OEM
equipped and engine is using complete OEM oiling system.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hot Rod:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ENGINE:
Maximum displacement: 2.5 liter (152.50 cid). Engine swap
permitted, but must be from same manufacturer as body. OEM
block and head mandatory. 4-cylinder only. Maximum two power
adders permitted. Redundant power adders, such as a dual-stage
nitrous system, will be counted as one power adder. Dry sump
permitted. Use of vacuum pump for evacuation of crankcase
pressure permitted. All engine-block and cylinder-head castings
must be, or have been, available in a production car or truck from a
recognized OEM assembly line with a minimum production run of
5,000 units.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Clearly, the Hot Rod rules prohibit non-OEM blocks and heads. If the NHRA meant to forbid them in SFWD, then they would have used the same wording, but they don't.

Just sayin...

 

I could have sworn I had read something a few months back about NHRA not allowing non-oem blocks. I know that its not legal in allmotor to run dart blocks. I dunno, but it seems like its okay to run a OEM GSR P72 block even if it has no serial number on it.

 

how is that gonna work out with the dot ? or the pd? law enforcement declairs any defacing of vin #s and or serial numbers is against the law and is considered stolen here in cali...better chk up with your **** or your car will be taken thats for sure its in the p.c of the law book it states \, altering or defacing known or stamped vin,serial #s is considered a felony

 

ok, well heres another question, if I owne the orig. car and have the title, do you think I could just have someone re-stamp the block?

 

i would pm or email a nhra official before u do anything, than if they say no do what u gotta do, nothing to lose

 

Yeah, better to email NHRA directly. pcvengros@nhra.com

Pat Cvengros, he's the tech director for the series this year. BTW, the Dart block is legal for SFWD in NHRA.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by old guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, better to email NHRA directly. pcvengros@nhra.com

Pat Cvengros, he's the tech director for the series this year. BTW, the Dart block is legal for SFWD in NHRA.</TD></TR></TABLE>

As far as you know, has anybody actually run one, though?

BTW, I still owe you lunch.

 

I can't name anyone off the top of my head, but yes, there have been a few Dart blocks, both in SFWD and Street Stock I believe.

I'll call you for the lunch. Free lunches are at the top of my list these days.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DooDoo Brown Racing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, well heres another question, if I owne the orig. car and have the title, do you think I could just have someone re-stamp the block?</TD></TR></TABLE>

is the vin plate still on the bottom part of the motor near the pan rail? if so, i dont think it will be a problem if you keep the title with you to show what block it is. Your best bet is to email them though

-Francisco

 

You should be able to run it without a problem. Why would you need a VIN for the track?

 

I would assume to prove its not stolen. Not sure. My only fear is that I'm gonna send this block to get sleeved and then find out I can use it. Then I'll be pissed and out money. My other concern is even if I have the papers, theres no vin on the block so how can they really tell its mine. I tell you don't try to use a block from a show car...

 

Thank god NHRA tech personal aren't police.All the small block V8 chevys out there have the vin and serial numbers milled off.They're on the deck surface and EVERYONE mills the deck.
Glenn

 

my vin comment was more to show what car it came from. IE:
JH4DC2=B18C
JH4DC4=B18B

 

the person to ask is camp1320 tom...hes the tech guy who busts our ***** at all nhra events!

 

I was just told by an NHRA official that I did not have to worry, that the block will pass tech.