I just recived my Stage 4 intake manifold from BlackTrax performance, and I thought I would share some pics so everyone could see how it turned out. The reason I decided to go this route is because after fighting the fittiment, bracket and sensor issues involved with my Venom intake, I wanted to have an intake that would retain all of the stock sensors, stock fit, and have the most volume possible, and after looking at the completed product there is just as much, if not more air volume inside of this than the venom. And so everone knows, this is the stage 4 turbo, whick is heavily ported, butterflies removed, and two 1" stacking plates.

 

the price is??

 

here is a price list from their site:

-STAGE1: Retain IAB's w/ gasket match porting. $250.00 w/ core exhange

-STAGE2: Removal of IAB plates, precision machined internally, T/B bore and port & polish. Great for stock engines looking for midrage hp increases. $300.00 w/ core exhange

-STAGE3:Removal of IAB plates, precision machined (alternative BTP1 design), T/B bore and port & polish. Recommended for engines with cam upgrades. $325.00 w/ core exchange

-STAGE4/Turbo:Removal of IAB plates, precision machined (alternative BTP2 design), T/B bore and port & polish. Hi end hp increases for drag racing or turbo applications. $350.00 w/ core exhange

1" Thick Stacking Plates: $35.00

Manifold Core Charge $50.00

 

precision machined? i could do a better job with a die grinder. look at all that mismatch inside there.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rosko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">precision machined? i could do a better job with a die grinder. look at all that mismatch inside there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

hahah seriously that looks like they grinded all of them by eye

 

that looks like crap, you may have the stacking plates out of order or fliped wrong or something (i hope) where it is short on one side it is long on the other so i they they are arranged wrong.

 

i am sure its very precise how they machined it, just not accurate at all...

 

........... no comment...........

 

Let us know how much hp it makes. Ive heard their stage 3 makes 10whp for NA.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rosko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">precision machined? i could do a better job with a die grinder. look at all that mismatch inside there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol

Honestly... I'm not too impressed with this manifold. It's not that its bad work, but when compared to other manifolds that I have seen ported, this looks pretty sloppy. By the way, instead of taking pictures of the exterior, you should have included the view of the runners.

Let us know how it performs though. That's what really counts.

 

Doesn't look like it's going to flow smoothly, but it does have more volume.

 

I'm a little noob on turbo setups so...
why using two stacking plates on oem im?

 

just gives the plenum more volume (holds more air) just more air readily available for the engine to suck in.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrecisionH23a &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

lol

Honestly... I'm not too impressed with this manifold. It's not that its bad work, but when compared to other manifolds that I have seen ported, this looks pretty sloppy. By the way, instead of taking pictures of the exterior, you should have included the view of the runners.

Let us know how it performs though. That's what really counts.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I couldnt get any clear pics of the runners, or the plentum for that matter, but honestly in person it does look good, but I do see what you are saying about the stacking plates, but I honestly don't see how it could hut the performance that much, but thats just me. And I just wanted to show people how it turned out because I heard good things about them but never saw the products, and I thought I could help out people that were interested in them, but I think that I should deffinatley see some substantial gains from it compared to the stock mani, but I will try and get a stock one and dyno both when I get the car running.

 

I would like to see someone on here that's unbiased take one of these to the dyno.

Let us know what kind of numbers you get.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LudeyKrus &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would like to see someone on here that's unbiased take one of these to the dyno.

Let us know what kind of numbers you get.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks man, I will deffinatley get some before and after numbers.

 

I agree with the other guy, flip the plates and take another picture and see how much better they line up, its only 5 bolts right?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uneek4dr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree with the other guy, flip the plates and take another picture and see how much better they line up, its only 5 bolts right?</TD></TR></TABLE>

if you look at the pics it doesnt look like you can flip them. The 5th bolt wouldnt go in. maybe i'm wrong but it sure as hell looks like they only go on there one way.

 

i think you could flip those all day and they wont line up.

maybe it wont be such a big factor since its turboed.

 

This is a dyno test I did a while ago of the Blacktrax Manifold. It was NA though, not boosted. The manifold I used at the time was basically a Stage 2 (port matched & single staged). I now have a Stage 3 (like above but the runners are ported as well) but haven't dyno tested it yet.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1250755


P.S. The inside of my Manifold looks the same as the one above (uneven) so one of my next projects is to even it all out myself which isn't too difficult. It would be nice if it was done better to begin with though.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2lude4u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">P.S. The inside of my Manifold looks the same as the one above (uneven) so one of my next projects is to even it all out myself which isn't too difficult. It would be nice if it was done better to begin with though.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

wow, I thought those guys machined those.......? Looks like die grinder work to me....

 

i guess i should take some pics of the manifold i did that to with a die grinder to compare....

 

kind of disappointed in the percieved quality as well... but let us know how it performs, I am more of an NA guy, but I am all for making some good innnovations towards using the stock manifold, or at least the design of it! (tapered runners...where else do you see those things...)