I'll start off by saying up front that I'm relatively new to forced induction. I just got my tax return back and am curious as to what would be the best bang for the buck. Boosting my D series with GReddy, or swapping in a B16A2...can't afford the 18C1 unfortunately...

What would be the pros and cons of each?

Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

 

search.. topics been covered alot

my personal opinion, r u looking for reliability? go with the swap.. if your looking for something that is potential reliability but hella fun and cheaper, go the boosted d root.

If i was in ur case, i would turbo the d. Not only do ya get the bov sound, d- series are pretty peppy. As far as the greddy kit, DO NOT TUNE WITH THEIR MANAGEMENT!!! The blue box runs super rich. Tune with hondata /crome/neptune, whatever... THe kit only runs 5.5 psi which is good for dd but its easily upgraded with a boost controller etc.

Putting ur own kit together is also cheaper too.. but takes longer.

 

reading an article on D16Z6 boosting, they said you can get the best bang for the buck with a TD05H-14B which is a hair bigger than a T25. The turbo comes off of a first gen mitsubishi eclispe/eagle talon. Based on the dyno they gave 106whp (stock civic ex) jumped to 220whp with just the turbo. And the best thing is these turbos are only 100-250 dollars generally, the bad thing is finding a decent one somewhere. So if u dont feel like looking than go with a T2 T3 turbo and have a tuner tune and dyno it for you. Yea dont use greddy applications for tuning. dont forget turbo timer! good luck

 

go with the SWAP

 

d16 turbo all the way

 

d16 turbo till it blows because you went crazy with the boost controller then swap it

 

Boost the D-series... it's cheaper, more fun, and you get more power.

 

i have a del sol si, went with the greddy kit on my d16 (get an intercooler). i drove it around for a few months, then my ******* mechanic stripped a headbolt hole installing some ARP studs, so i've gone with the b18c1 swap (will be a turbo soon, already bought a turbo, just need a new manifold) been rocking the b18 swap for a couple days now, and it pulls pretty hard, but i thought the d series turbo was a lot more fun.
just my 2 cents, having been on both sides.

 

b16a2 turbo

 

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has nothing to do with this topic.
D series turbo=more power, and cheaper than most swaps.
B series= more potential in the long run.
it just depends how fast you wanna go

 

so hes going to cought up $2000 for an increase of 34hp and a few ft lbs of tq.. or could invest the same amount and gain way more power and torque.

If you do go the FI route.. do your research.. it may not be for you. Lots of things can go wrong

 

I find myself in this same dillema. the JDM SOHC swap I bought here locally has started leaking from the front main seal. I have a spare z6 in the garage that I could rebuild and boost, but I'm thinking the equal-length driveshafts of the b-series engines would be a huge benefit in road racing, which is really what I'm interested in the most anyway. there is a BUNCH that can go wrong with boost, but turbo d-series produce WAY more torque than a b-series will, turbo or not

hm.... decisions, decisions eh? there are definitely worse things in life though, than deciding which way to do your car up

 

turbo d man. It has as much potential as a turbo b. and try and peice together your turbo setup using H-T classifieds and any other resource you have because that will save you money. greddy kits arent all that great for the $$$ you spend. unless you get a used one off someone cheap like I did

 

to add, just make sure you get a good tune. go with something like crome or uberdata. its free and good. if you got it tuned and dialed in right, it will be reliable and much faster than any b swap.

 

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nothing better than opening the hood and seeing the DOHC VTEC written on the valvecover

 

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nothing better than opening the hood and seeing the DOHC VTEC written on the valvecover </TD></TR></TABLE>

true dat but turbos are so fun your descion bro!

 

B16's are the biggest wastes of money known to man kind. Boost the D.

 

turbo

 

Thank you everyone for your opinions on this matter. Looks like I'm gonna have to do some pondering. Thanks again, everyone.

 

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go with the swap b/c u are always going to want more power and speed

 

Here you go, Just some FYI. I would personally do the D-Turbo btw.

HOW TO: Turbocharge your Honda

 

im bout to do turbo d16...on 10 pounds with a good tune there can be 186whp 170wtq...seen it happen. search on turbod16.com for more information

 

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10psi and only 186 whp??? you're goin easy on that.

the blue box alone has seen that and thats only 5.5 psi

at 10 psi proper tuning i would be hoping for nothing less then 225whp

tell me in not being generous??

 

Oooooohhh!!! Cool turbo D-series way to go, save the sohc. Single slam turbo is the coolest cuz we all know a d series is the best thing since sliced bread. You can use an HX manifold and save sooo much money. Cuz you know turboing a car that was/is designed for N/A is a great idea and asking for advice about it in the 92-civic del sol forum where almost everybody has a d series in their car is also a good way to get an unbiased answer.

How bout this: nothing turbo is cheap even in HONDA's, so if cost is a major factor you shouldn't even be doing this. You should also ask in the FI forum and you will get better responses than:

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Which have no factual backing other than that persons opinion.

Because if those people knew anything they would know: B16 has thicker sleeves, thicker rods than a GSR(b18c1, much thicker than a D series), the block webbing is better, the head is the best flowing aside from a Type R, and the rod stroke ratio makes it boost and rev friendly because stress on the rods is reduced, hence it has no block girdle. But shiat you should just turbo the D, to be different and special and cheap. Because those things make fast cars.