My local dealer wants $215 to flush my tranny on my 96 lx auto. Now, i may be a teen but im not dumb . What exactly is done when the tranny is flushed?

 

tell your dealer he is about $140 over retail

 

they hook it up to a machine and let it run.

 

i called them, i think im going to go in and talk to them and see if i can get a better deal. When i called i just asked how much a transmission flush was and he was like oh its $215

 

I know of more than one dealership that does not recommend power flushes.
Provided by another forum member. I cannot remember his name and he WILL flame me!

Honda Auto-Trans Flush = 1 case (12 qrts) Honda ATF aprox $50. 1 new drain bolt washer $1.
1) Put the front of the car up on jackstands with the wheels off the ground. Put a large container under drain plug.
2) Remove the transmission drain plug (3/8" drive ratchet works fine). Let transmission drain and wipe sludge off drain plug.
3) Reinstall drain plug and snug (not tighten). Fill transmission with three quarts of ATF.
4) Start engine and shift into drive. Gently accelerate and let transmission upshift through the gears (don't go over 50 MPH).
5) Step on brakes and bring speedo to 0.
6) Shift into reverse and accelerate to 20 MPH.
7) Bring speedo back to 0 with brakes. Shift to park and shut off engine.
8) Repeat steps 2 through 7 TWO MORE TIMES.
9) Drain the transmission once more. Reinstall drain plug and tighten firmly (don't forget to reinstall crush washer).
10) Remove jackstands and put vehicle on level ground.
11) Fill transmission with 2 1/2 quarts of ATF. Start engine. Shift to drive, then reverse, then put back in park and shut off engine.
12) Check transmission fluid level. Top off if needed to bring fluid level to the top of the crosshatch marks on the dipstick.

 

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American Honda doesn't recommend power flushing.

 

I'll weigh into this conversation by saying this;
The 4 Honda's in my driveway have had 7 power Flushes done between them since they were bought used. Of those 7 times, there has been no complications; unless you consider the restoration to service a Transmission which wouldn't shift (the '88 spare) a complication.
The system I'm familiar with (BG Products) utilizes a flush solvent and and a flow rate sufficient to circulate, but not agitate. As of last week, the Indy Honda repair shop of which I associate has used this procedure for four (4) years without incident.
Draw your own conclusions

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most of the machines I have seen acually let the trans pump do the exchange. new fluid sucked in from 1 tank and old fluid pumpted into another.

 

i have 104.5xx on my car with the fluid never having been changed. do you think i should just do a normal change, or let the dealer do it?

 

I'd just change it

 

All Honda Dealers (competent ones at least) Do Not reccomend power flushes. I went through The American Honda Trainig Program (PACT) some years back and this is what we were told.

 

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Provided by another forum member. I cannot remember his name and he WILL flame me!

Honda Auto-Trans Flush = 1 case (12 qrts) Honda ATF aprox $50. 1 new drain bolt washer $1.
1) Put the front of the car up on jackstands with the wheels off the ground. Put a large container under drain plug.
2) Remove the transmission drain plug (3/8" drive ratchet works fine). Let transmission drain and wipe sludge off drain plug.
3) Reinstall drain plug and snug (not tighten). Fill transmission with three quarts of ATF.
4) Start engine and shift into drive. Gently accelerate and let transmission upshift through the gears (don't go over 50 MPH).
5) Step on brakes and bring speedo to 0.
6) Shift into reverse and accelerate to 20 MPH.
7) Bring speedo back to 0 with brakes. Shift to park and shut off engine.
8) Repeat steps 2 through 7 TWO MORE TIMES.
9) Drain the transmission once more. Reinstall drain plug and tighten firmly (don't forget to reinstall crush washer).
10) Remove jackstands and put vehicle on level ground.
11) Fill transmission with 2 1/2 quarts of ATF. Start engine. Shift to drive, then reverse, then put back in park and shut off engine.
12) Check transmission fluid level. Top off if needed to bring fluid level to the top of the crosshatch marks on the dipstick.

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anyone have anything else to add to this.. my tranny has the original fluid in it and has 104,5xx on it.

 

when they call it a power flush that doesent mean the machine provides the power to flush the tranny ... i have seen many transmissions go bad after a trans flush .. and i was also trained that you never do it .. with solvent (aka their additive) ...if the trans fluid is so dirty that you cant just drain and refill the proper procedure is to put the car on jackstands remove the cooling hoses coming out of the tranny and put longer hoses on it to reach a big pan .... and start the car and keep adding fluid till the fluid coming out of the cooling lines are clean .. it usually takes about 6-8 quarts .. after that hook the hoses back up and refill the trans to the proper level .. remember that honda trannys are very sensitive to the type of fluid you use so only use dealer fluid ......


and for the other poster that has always had it done ... consider yourself lucky ...

just to let you know why so many shops have those machines when they are being marketed to us (the shops) they never say it flushes the trans better then a manual flud they say it is a profit getter ... the conditioner they put through the tranny cost about $5.50 the fluid is about $6.50 (shop cost ) so they spent 11.00 on the fluid change ... and they charge from 70-150 .. for something that takes 5-8 minutes to complete ... the machine cost about 6K but you can pay for that within4 months if you scare your customers into thinking they need it ...

 

an auto fluid change is every bit as easy as an oil change.

a lack of knowledge allows us all to be a sucker sometime.

the 4 cyl needs 2.5 qts. per change, less than $5 per qt. from the dealer for honda atf.

 

I took my car to my local honda to see about my tranny problems im having they said they cant match so suggested a tranny Flush.$190 I have heard many problems such as seals leaking and other problems. All i want is honda to change my Tranny since its under warrenty and is acting up I have a 2000 accord

 

The flush itself Honda has nothing against. It's the additives that make it a bad thing. If you have a "power flush" done with ATF-Z1 (transmission fluid) only, it's great (no additives.... EVER!)

 

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Take the used transmission fluid to Autozone, Pepboys, etc for disposal (should be free). And of course buy a funnel made for automatic transmissions (long hose, I believe 1/2" OD at the tip, just $2 or so).

And be sure to buy a decent to good quality ATF fluid. A friend of mine swears that anything that is ASC certified is "good enough", I still say that if you're only buying 6 quarts, just buy a brand you've heard of (and ASC certified). For what it's worth, I've never changed the automatic transmission fluid on my Honda for the simple reason that I don't have automatic transmission. I have changed the ATF on my '93 Volvo 940, the instructions were reaonably close to that described above.

Those instructions will probably take 10 minutes to follow. When you're done you'll be thinking "what was the big deal?".

 

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Take the used transmission fluid to Autozone, Pepboys, etc for disposal (should be free). And of course buy a funnel made for automatic transmissions (long hose, I believe 1/2" OD at the tip, just $2 or so).

And be sure to buy a decent to good quality ATF fluid. A friend of mine swears that anything that is ASC certified is "good enough", I still say that if you're only buying 6 quarts, just buy a brand you've heard of (and ASC certified). For what it's worth, I've never changed the automatic transmission fluid on my Honda for the simple reason that I don't have automatic transmission. I have changed the ATF on my '93 Volvo 940, the instructions were reaonably close to that described above.

Those instructions will probably take 10 minutes to follow. When you're done you'll be thinking "what was the big deal?". </TD></TR></TABLE>


you obviously dont know much about honda trannys they wont shift properly with non oem fluids .. just spend the extra 1.00 a quart and get the dealer oil ... it will save you money in the long run ... also ... to avoid ever having to flush your tranny just change the fluid every 12000 miles ... and it will never get dirty enough for them to say it needs a flush ...

 

anything other than hondaf fluid will result in harsh shifting and gear lunging.

 

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I know they suck, and not in a good way. That's all I need to know.

If you say to use Honda OEM fluid because Honda transmissions are very particular, then by all means use Honda OEM fluid. Normal transmissions should be fine with a name-brand transmission fluid. But then again, normal transmissions don't fail on a seemingly routine basis.

Did I mention that I don't have a high opinion of Honda automatic transmissions?

I'll be buying a new vehicle next fall (my '99 Accord would be my commuter). The Odyssey is on the short list but I am very leary of it's transmission. My other choices all have manual tranmissions (Volvo V70, Volkeswagon Passat wagon, and the Mazda5).


Modified by Heat at 10:05 PM 2/12/2006