can you use d16z6,y5,y7,y8 and zc rods in a d16a6 block with d16a1 pistons?just wondering if all the rods have differant strengths between the differant series of motors..whats the strongest and weakest? TIA Brian

 

i heard tha a6 / zc rods are the strongest but i wouldnt take my word on it

 

thanks.Can anyone varify this i wanna do a all oem part high compression build on my d16a6 and i looked at a compression caculator,it said all those rods are the same stroke,length,ratio and same deck height as the d16a6.can anyone clarify?TIA Brian

 

all D16 (except 86-87 D16A1) rods are the same and carry the same part number:

13210-PM6-000

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by d16efhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks.Can anyone varify this i wanna do a all oem part high compression build on my d16a6 and i looked at a compression caculator,it said all those rods are the same stroke,length,ratio and same deck height as the d16a6.can anyone clarify?TIA Brian</TD></TR></TABLE>
all the rods, etc. are the same - the piston to deck height with D16A1 P29 or DOHC ZC PM7 pistons is 1mm (0.040") - the A6 is .5mm (0.020") - compression height on PM7/P29 piston is 29mm - on A6 piston it is 29.5mm

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jlicrx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
all the rods, etc. are the same - the piston to deck height with D16A1 P29 or DOHC ZC PM7 pistons is 1mm (0.040") - the A6 is .5mm (0.020") - compression height on PM7/P29 piston is 29mm - on A6 piston it is 29.5mm</TD></TR></TABLE> so could i use d16y8 rods with d16a1 pistons without any machining? TIA Brian

 

yes - i threw that stuff in about piston to deck height so that when using the compresion ratio calculator you would be sure to get the right numbers entered in order to get the correct ratio

 

aren't the 99-89 d16a1 rods a little bit beefier?....I heard they were I have both sets at home and I will check on this tommorrow

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gnar kill &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aren't the 99-89 d16a1 rods a little bit beefier?....I heard they were I have both sets at home and I will check on this tommorrow</TD></TR></TABLE>
86-87 D16A1 rods are a little thicker (also makes them heavier)

 

i have a shitload of d16y8 rods if you want them...10 dollars for 8 of them plus shipping

 

thanks for all the reply's guy's.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by x_outlaw_x &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a shitload of d16y8 rods if you want them...10 dollars for 8 of them plus shipping</TD></TR></TABLE> i'll get back with you about them rods.i'm just trying to get all the stuff figured out for my d16a6 build up with zc pistons the compression caculator yields a 12.1.1cr would that be same to run with 94octane fuel?also would this be obtainable to run on stock valvetrain if i keep my stock rev limit(7200)???

 

the strongest OE rod you can put in a D-series 1.6l is a 90-01 Teg LS/B20 rod with the with the Wristpin bushing re-bushed to accept the d-series smaller wrist pin.

get the rods shotpeened and add ARP rod bolts for extra security.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by K-Drum &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the strongest OE rod you can put in a D-series 1.6l is a 90-01 Teg LS/B20 rod with the with the Wristpin bushing re-bushed to accept the d-series smaller wrist pin. </TD></TR></TABLE> thanks for that info but im looking for a straight up bolt in rod with no machinging,this will be my first honda motor build(first motor build at all actuallly)so im going with the easy stuff for my first time...

 

with D16A6 block, D16A6 head, D16A1 pistons and stock D16A6 headgasket, compression ratio would be 10.78:1 - Y8 head would give you 12.2:1

 

sorry i forgot to leave out im gonna be using a d16y8 2 layer hg.i just figured it out and im getting 12.1cr

 

any desent machine shop would be able to make short work of it. Last itme we at SBR had it done I think it was 10-15$ a rod, and they pressed in the wrist pin as well for that price. (that will need to be done if you are using OE Honda pistons) might check Ebay for some that are already done...

 

i get 11.44 for that - don't forget that with the A1 pistons you have 0.040" deck height, not 0.020" like A6

 

hmm well either way its better than 9.1cr.what cr caculator are you using?

 

http://www.knology.net/~jediklc/D.htm

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by K-Drum &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the strongest OE rod you can put in a D-series 1.6l is a 90-01 Teg LS/B20 rod with the with the Wristpin bushing re-bushed to accept the d-series smaller wrist pin.

get the rods shotpeened and add ARP rod bolts for extra security.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the big end of LS rods are wider than D-series rods, so in addition to the pin you also need to mill off the sides of the rods to get them to fit the crankshaft

 

oh i didnt the piston to deck height would be differant would this setup work without any machining?sorry for all the questions ima new to building engines.....

 

no problem - a lot of people overlook the piston to deck height - A1 pistons are P29 and DOHC ZC pistons are PM7 (pistons are exactly the same) - in the calculator just use OEM ZC for piston to deck height instead of OEM D16A6

 

**** I knew I was forgeting something... thanks man

 

so would this setup work.d16a6 block,d16y8 rods,d16a1 pistons without any machining?