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Is Disc Brake Quiet Neccesary?

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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 04:34 PM
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Default Is Disc Brake Quiet Neccesary?

I am getting ready to do a full brake job on my 96 LX for the first time and am curious if anyone reccomends that I put that Disc Brake Quiet gel on the front pads. Everything I am buying is Genuine Honda so I don't know if it's needed or not. Some say yes it's great stuff and other's say it's just an extra added headache.

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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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Default Re: Is Disc Brake Quiet Neccesary? (teletekman)

If someone says it's a headache to apply it, they must have it confused with something else. It only takes a 10 seconds to apply it, and it helps keep the brakes from squealing.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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I agree, it's not hard at all. I've never not used it so I don't know if it's necessary or not. But for the little bit it cost and how long one bottle last, I can't see it hurting anything.
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 04:45 PM
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It's cheap insurance against the dreaded Disc Brake Squeek. You can get it both in paste and spray form.
I use Permatex 126HB (Item Number 82017) (4oz soft bottle) and haven't had a noisy pad in years.

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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 09:30 PM
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i always use the squeal stop when i take apart my pad.

it cost like 4 dollar in a bottle, just squeeze some juice on the pad and it will last for years

i use it even with a built in shim+factory brake shim
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Old Feb 7, 2006 | 10:56 PM
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factory pad sets actually come with a little packet of brake moly too, which is used to apply between the shims, same idea as brake quiet, so definitely use them. w/o it is almost definitely asking for squeel.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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The last time I put front brake pads on I never used the squeal stuff and it never squeals. Who knows.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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waht pads did you use, some aftermarket pads come with shims already installed, those have an adhesive backing that dont require the anti squeal
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 12:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Eddiebx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">waht pads did you use, some aftermarket pads come with shims already installed, those have an adhesive backing that dont require the anti squeal</TD></TR></TABLE>

factory replacements
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 08:50 AM
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Factory pads come with factory supplied lube and back shims.. Works great.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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That stuff from the Honda pads goes on the shims, not the pads. Not the same thing. I've never heard of the stuff, myself. But then my pads never squealed either, so I never had the need for a remedy.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 11:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKFLSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That stuff from the Honda pads goes on the shims, not the pads. Not the same thing. I've never heard of the stuff, myself. But then my pads never squealed either, so I never had the need for a remedy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, it's really the same thing. If you have shims, you apply it on the back of the shims. If you don't have shims, you apply it to the back of the pad.
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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How the heck does stuff on the back of the pads stop brake squeal? Aren't they squealing against the rotors?
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BLKFLSH &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How the heck does stuff on the back of the pads stop brake squeal? Aren't they squealing against the rotors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

No. Most cases of "squeal" is the rattle of the caliper against the pad's backing. The shims + supplied grease suppress the rattle that sounds like a "squeal".
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Old Feb 8, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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OK, learn something new every day. Well, maybe once a month.
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:33 AM
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Thanks all for the info. I was getting a bunch of good and bad reviews on it so I thought I would ask around. Thanks again!
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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Good point
The pad is indeed squeaking from it's interaction with the rotor, much like the bone chilling squeak you got in school from the chalk/blackboard thing. It sets up an extremely high frequency vibration that pierces ear drums and calls dogs from miles around.
What the Disc Brake Quiet (Blue Snot) does can be understood two ways.
It acts as a dampening layer which isolates the pad. or
It acts as an adhesive which bonds it to it's corresponding caliper, effectively changing the mass of the shoe causing it's natural resonance frequency to drop to the inaudible range. It can vibrate all it wants, nobody will hear it.

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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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Default Re: (teletekman)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by knucklehead11 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The last time I put front brake pads on I never used the squeal stuff and it never squeals. Who knows.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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