How much difference is there between the ITR and GSR shocks/springs? I've been searching and it looks like it lowers the car a little bit (15mm) and is a little bit stiffer. Is it noticeable enough to put the ITR suspension on my GSR?

What would a good price be for ITR shocks/springs/rear lca?

 

hey buddy, go with the type R suspension all the way! Double wishbone suspension, developed for race cars designed to tear around a track it's no wonder Honda decides to equip the coilover setup onto most all of their cars. The Type R is no exception and has refined the suspension to work with the chassis to deliver the most solid driving experience available. They don't call it the "Best handling FWD car in the world" for nothing.



1. In front, stiffer springs keep the Type R cornering with absolute precision and predictability. The spring rate has risen 22% from the rest of the Integra crowd. The springs are responsible for the Type R's slightly harsher ride when compared with other Integras. The stiffness isn't extreme, but it's not going to be absorbing any road lumps for you as the Type R keeps it's driver intimately in contact with the road at all times .

2. Special gas-pressurized dampers equipped with Honda's Progressive Valve system to allow change in dampening force depending on driver demands. Compression damping force has been increased 115% while rebound damping force increased 70%.

3. For the rear, progressive rate springs are equipped to keep things comfortable during the daily drive while firming up to demand when a soft suspension just won't cut it. There is also a 22% increase in maximum stiffness on the rear springs.

4. The rear dampers have been upgraded to 66% stiffer in compression damping force and 31% stiffer in rebound damping force.

 

To sum it all up...ITR suspension= alot better lOl...the spring rates are stiffer where are they have stiff bushings as well...The ITr has a lower tie bar and trunk bar that makes the car handle alot better

 

The lower tie bar is not a swappable item. The trunk bar can be, but you will need to drill and tap the holes to mount it. As for the struts and springs, I would buy something better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Comp97GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The lower tie bar is not a swappable item. The trunk bar can be, but you will need to drill and tap the holes to mount it. As for the struts and springs, I would buy something better. </TD></TR></TABLE>Agree 100% Go get a good coil-over setup, and larger rear swaybar. Get a nice lower chassis brace as well. A-spec racing has a nice brace.

 

would u go brand new or used??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dc2gsr96 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">would u go brand new or used??</TD></TR></TABLE>

new. Shocks are wear items.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigslimdog &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How much difference is there between the ITR and GSR shocks/springs? I've been searching and it looks like it lowers the car a little bit (15mm) and is a little bit stiffer. Is it noticeable enough to put the ITR suspension on my GSR?

What would a good price be for ITR shocks/springs/rear lca?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You cannot just buy a set of ITR shock/spring and put on your GSR. The rear LCA is different on GSR (fork type shock mount). ITR has a eye bolt mount. And last but no least, you will probably spend too much on a set of used ITR shocks. These things are over-priced.

A nice shock/spring combo, hard suspension bushings and thicker rear sway bar is all you need.

 

Don't Gs/Ls/RS/GS-R tegs have double wishbone suspensiontoo...I thought the only differences were shocks, springs sway bar tie bar, LCA's, and thicker reinforcments for the chass.

 

You're right 9000rpms

I thought all you needed to do was to get the LCA's from an ITR and you can use the ITR shocks in the rear.

The fronts you won't have an issue.

What you can also do is run Koni Yellows in the rear (if you want) and couple them with ITR springs. Not sure how much LCAs will cost you though.

As for lower brace, the Comptech Tie/Combo bar is beefy

Instead of ITR shocks, if you do run ITR LCA's, you could get the Bilstein shocks instead

 

I'm sorry to bring this thread from the dead but i've seen no other pages with pictures or anything and i've researched about type R suspension for the the last week or so and this was the most helpful due to the specific numbers that "iheartdc2" had stated....
I hate stock suspension and my budget is kind of tight and I found a set of JDM Type R suspension WITH control arms for only $150 at a local (hour drive) JDM shop. (NaganoUSA) SO i figure i'd post some of the Type R vs GSR before and after..


The JDM Type R P/N.. look for it when making the buy..


The front shocks on the JDM has only 9 coils as opposed to the 10 on the USDM GSR


And on the rear you can clearly see the difference in the springs and control arms. They gave me 1 ABS control arm and 1 Non ABS control arm, so one of my ABS lines are being held in by zip ties lol , make sure you get what's needed for you car. I didn't notice when I bought it, only when installing.



before:



after:



I had a friend at a local shop do an alignment for me on Type R specs seeing as its Type R suspension.. and only for $50


End result, Smoother, stiffer ride, removed some major wheel gap (less than 1" .. some people say 15mm, some say 3/4", I didn't measure but pics speak for themselves), great responsive handling and spent no more than $200.

I have to say I'm VERY pleased with the feeling of the ride. It's super smooth, turns feel way safer and easier and the stock GSR shocks felt all mushy and not stable..
I also ordered the OEM Type R rear sway bar, 23mm from Japan on ebay for $107 with endlinks . For $150 on the suspension and $100 on the sway bar, I think I got a great deal. My last 3 cars ( EG, EJ1 , DC4 ) I used Tein Basics and they felt wonderful for being slammed most the time, great stable ride but at $800, they only bring unwanted attention from local thieves. I hear a lot of people say bad stuff about Teins but I loved them! Never tried the Koni/GC but everyone says it's awesome..

Hope this helps some people who were thinking about getting the Type R suspension and didn't know too much about it..

 

^^^ looks like you might need some RTA bushings too.

 

thats exactly what my buddy told me when I was getting my alignment, how can you tell by not even seeing them? the alignment readings?

 

Hey EF_hatch, i have a GSR too and i was planning to do the type r suspension swap, and it looks pretty easy from what you're saying. All i have to do is purchase the front ITR suspension and the rear with the lower control arms?

Also, my GSR shocks only have 100k on them and i just installed my ITR rear sway bar with ASR brace, it rides real nice. I can't even imagine how much nicer it would be with ITR shocks!

PM me please!

 

I think i bought this set of GSR shocks from you EF_Hatch. Lol, if so they ride great! My older gsr suspension with 186k was getting too old.

 

Well I did put the old GSR shocks on craigslist so maybe you bought them? lol and I don't have the ASR brace but I do also have the JDM rear sway bar and some hard race RTA bushings. I take corners with much confidence and my car is super responsive. I'm very satisfied with my suspension.

 

Yeah i bought them off ya at Tysons lol. You put a 23 mm rear sway bar without a brace? I also got some hard race bushings too, just have to find time to replace mine. I'm glad to hear you're enjoying your setup though, i want some ITR shocks now!

 

don't run the 23 without a brace. you can run the ST suspension 19mm without a brace and it even attaches at the shock bolts levering up the effect.

as for the jdm itr suspension. good deal if the shocks aren't worn out or leaking. there's really no other shock/spring package for 150 that will give you an improvement

if your gsr shocks are good you could always get tein h tech springs which are basically itr springs +15%

 

Haha Yea I remember, you had the green DC4 with the fog lights and stuff.. I was pretty fried that day from what I remember hahah..and Yea I don't have a brace but it's on my to do list for sure.. and if you can find a full set for cheap, it's a great buy. I got all good shocks , no leaks but as all used items, some what cosmetic wear..

 

because the way your rear end is squatting. your front end should be a little bit lower then your front with this set up.

 

Racebum:I meant i wanted the ITR struts, the whole OEM set up, my bad. Never thought of H-tech springs or putting new springs on my GSR shocks though, i always read that that the manufacture has the specs for a reason. I'd rather just purchase a whole new set-up.

EF_Hatch: Yeah it was the green GSR, the DOHC VTEC was de-badged and since 97 integra GSR's came with ls meshes, it is not too flashy. I think my GSR is one of the lowest trims, green on tan interior. Yeah the brace is awesome, and i picked up a jdm front end from Nagano recently too, non-hid though. Your teg looked real nice with them, i'll probably go there to get the itr suspension too. Cosmetic ware is cool, no one is going to see them anyway lol

Oh by the way, i just put that 22 mm ITR rear sway bar in with the ASR brace and the GSR suspension i got from you. It was kind of a bitch, the left shock mount that connects to the LCA seized and broke on me, and my abs line was caught in between! I had to stretch out the lower shock mount with heavy duty flat head screw drivers to slip the abs line out, it was a nightmare. Luckily i did research and ordered the OEM bolts beforehand. I had to take the LCA's to my friends shop on thanks giving to press them out, then i had to go on a crazy search for bushings since everything was closed. Story ended well with a steal, for a set of $80 Energy suspension bushings on craigslist, it was a freaking life saver. This is my DD for work and school!

 

I changed the RTAs and I'd say it sits pretty much the same.. and yes, they were horrible

 

Byatch - when that lower bolt broke, I had to remove both my rear ABS sensors completely, as well as removing the metal brackets that hold the line in place... **** took me like 2 hours at least lol and that sounds like a sweet set up! I been cheapin' out on the ASR brace cuz I rather get an Alarm right now seeing as my boy's car just got taken.. And yea man I really thought it was an LS, I woulda tried to race you if I saw you on the roads lol but the ASR brace is deff on my top priority list along with the Alarm and my tail light gaskets that keep letting water get in my trunk! .. I don't think it makes much of a difference but you should have gone with the 23mm JDM bar. I got mine for $100

 

Those VSS sensor wires are a serious pain until you learn how to deal with them. When I started overhauling my bushings I got myself into trouble with them a little bit. But as long as the wire doesn't break they still carry a signal and it's all good.

 

EF_Hatch:

Yeah that lower shock bolt sucks, and it's a common problem. Alarm is good idea, it really gives you an ease of mind where ever you go. With my ASR brace and 22 mm ITR rear sway bar, the handling is phenomenally better. I'm happy with a 22 mm bar, but 23 would have been nice too. I think my handling would be so much better if i got to install my hard race rear trailing arm bushings.
Let me know if you see another ITR suspension for sale, I'm hoping nagano will have them sometime!