Possible 05' 600RR Problem!
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Possible 05' 600RR Problem!
Hello everyone.
I would like to link you to a post I made on another forum board so that we can get more imput on this problem and thus become better aquainted with it and find out if this is something that we as a community need to deal with imediately.
http://www.600rr.net/vb/showth...49121
!!FOLLOWING IS THE COPIED THREAD!!
I will try to update both sites as much as I can and as often as I can. I would appreciate if you respond to the original thread on the 600RR.net forums but if you can not do that I will make sure I check this forum as often as I can.
..Hello my fellow riders!
As some of you may remember, a while back, I was asking about a slight shimmy in the front end of my 2005 CBR600RR. Well... this little shimmy may be more dangerous then it seems.
About 1 month after that post, in a low speed left hand turn, the front simply imploded and down I went. The bike hit the ground hard enough on the front to simply snap the left bar-end weight completely off. Next thing I know, a guardrail is comming really close lol. I am fine, but the bike hit the guardrail and has some extensive damage.
About the same time I wrote my post on these boards I called the dealership that sold me the bike and they told me 1 of 2 things was more then likely the problem concerning the front shimmy: 1. I did not know how to treat THAT particular bike or, 2. I was putting to much weight on the front. They did NOT offer to bring the bike in to check it out. They told me a good investment to midigate the "rider error" would be a steeringdamper, which I promply purchased. While this did stabilize the front, somewhat, the feeling was still there and my gut was telling me that it was not me. I did, however, trust in the techs and decided to work on putting less weight on the front. This is where I am at fault simply for being to trusting of the "experts".
Now here is the warning part...
I have been riding sportbikes for the last 5-6 years. I have the basic MSF course, the advanced MSF course and tracktime. I used to ride my bike hard in the canyons, but that was a year or so ago and I have since then realized that I should save that kind of riding for he track.
After the accident the CHP were out and inspected the road for any signs of a spill which may have caused a loss of traction. They found none. From my point of view the front forks simply imploded after about 2 hours of normal country riding. The dealership where I purchased the bike are very apprehensive to checking the bike for errors so I did some searching on the net and found that I am not the only one who has had this happen with the '05 600RR. There are accounts of at least 5-6 other people, thus far, that have come forth and stood their ground about this being a mechanical issue and not the normal "rider error". I have been in contact with one person who send his forks to GPSusspension where the expert tore the shocks appart and noted a BROKEN FRONT FORK SPRING. It has since come to my attention that others have been experiencing this shimmy in the '05 600RR which leads me to believe that there may well be something seriously wrong with a batch of these bikes.
Help please...
I would love for you all to check with your local dealers, friends, susspension guru's and see if you can, together with myself, try to dig up some cold hard facts so that IF this happens to anyone they will not just be brushed off by their dealership/insurance company. I personally believe that Honda need to be informed, and take a stand on this issue, even if it is only .5% of total sales that experience this problem.
Every single one of us is riding on 2 wheels and, regardless of rider skill, a severe mechanical failure will put you on your *** very fast. Every single person riding a sportbike is in one way or another trusting his life to the manufacturer and as such we deserve to be treated as more then just numbers and percentages. If even 1 person gets killed because of this it would, and should, be a tragedy.
So... Please help me shed some light on this issue and please take everyone seriously when they ask about headshake, shimmy or "squishy" feelings regarding the front end. Insist that they send their bike in for a serious checkup BEFORE something happens.
If anyone would like to contact me personally about this please feel free to email me at e_dresskell@hotmail.com and please add "Regarding 600RR" in the title or it will most likely get deleted by my spam filter.
I will try my best to keep you all updated on the progress of this. I am calling GPSusspension on Monday and am going to talk to the expert there myself. I will also be calling the dealership and getting an update on the bike the same day.
Thank you very much!
Sincerely;
Erlend Dresskell
Modified by Erlend at 11:01 PM 2/4/2006
I would like to link you to a post I made on another forum board so that we can get more imput on this problem and thus become better aquainted with it and find out if this is something that we as a community need to deal with imediately.
http://www.600rr.net/vb/showth...49121
!!FOLLOWING IS THE COPIED THREAD!!
I will try to update both sites as much as I can and as often as I can. I would appreciate if you respond to the original thread on the 600RR.net forums but if you can not do that I will make sure I check this forum as often as I can.
..Hello my fellow riders!
As some of you may remember, a while back, I was asking about a slight shimmy in the front end of my 2005 CBR600RR. Well... this little shimmy may be more dangerous then it seems.
About 1 month after that post, in a low speed left hand turn, the front simply imploded and down I went. The bike hit the ground hard enough on the front to simply snap the left bar-end weight completely off. Next thing I know, a guardrail is comming really close lol. I am fine, but the bike hit the guardrail and has some extensive damage.
About the same time I wrote my post on these boards I called the dealership that sold me the bike and they told me 1 of 2 things was more then likely the problem concerning the front shimmy: 1. I did not know how to treat THAT particular bike or, 2. I was putting to much weight on the front. They did NOT offer to bring the bike in to check it out. They told me a good investment to midigate the "rider error" would be a steeringdamper, which I promply purchased. While this did stabilize the front, somewhat, the feeling was still there and my gut was telling me that it was not me. I did, however, trust in the techs and decided to work on putting less weight on the front. This is where I am at fault simply for being to trusting of the "experts".
Now here is the warning part...
I have been riding sportbikes for the last 5-6 years. I have the basic MSF course, the advanced MSF course and tracktime. I used to ride my bike hard in the canyons, but that was a year or so ago and I have since then realized that I should save that kind of riding for he track.
After the accident the CHP were out and inspected the road for any signs of a spill which may have caused a loss of traction. They found none. From my point of view the front forks simply imploded after about 2 hours of normal country riding. The dealership where I purchased the bike are very apprehensive to checking the bike for errors so I did some searching on the net and found that I am not the only one who has had this happen with the '05 600RR. There are accounts of at least 5-6 other people, thus far, that have come forth and stood their ground about this being a mechanical issue and not the normal "rider error". I have been in contact with one person who send his forks to GPSusspension where the expert tore the shocks appart and noted a BROKEN FRONT FORK SPRING. It has since come to my attention that others have been experiencing this shimmy in the '05 600RR which leads me to believe that there may well be something seriously wrong with a batch of these bikes.
Help please...
I would love for you all to check with your local dealers, friends, susspension guru's and see if you can, together with myself, try to dig up some cold hard facts so that IF this happens to anyone they will not just be brushed off by their dealership/insurance company. I personally believe that Honda need to be informed, and take a stand on this issue, even if it is only .5% of total sales that experience this problem.
Every single one of us is riding on 2 wheels and, regardless of rider skill, a severe mechanical failure will put you on your *** very fast. Every single person riding a sportbike is in one way or another trusting his life to the manufacturer and as such we deserve to be treated as more then just numbers and percentages. If even 1 person gets killed because of this it would, and should, be a tragedy.
So... Please help me shed some light on this issue and please take everyone seriously when they ask about headshake, shimmy or "squishy" feelings regarding the front end. Insist that they send their bike in for a serious checkup BEFORE something happens.
If anyone would like to contact me personally about this please feel free to email me at e_dresskell@hotmail.com and please add "Regarding 600RR" in the title or it will most likely get deleted by my spam filter.
I will try my best to keep you all updated on the progress of this. I am calling GPSusspension on Monday and am going to talk to the expert there myself. I will also be calling the dealership and getting an update on the bike the same day.
Thank you very much!
Sincerely;
Erlend Dresskell
Modified by Erlend at 11:01 PM 2/4/2006
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Was it Alba Action? Because they told me to fukc myself too when my 04 had motor issues. Mine came from there and they were very reluctant to help whatsoever. Several hundred dollars + a few months later I sold the bike for a loss.
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Re: (.Ash)
I would preffer to keep the dealership out of the topic as far as any kind of blame is concerned. They are at least appearing to want to get to the bottom of things although they are taking their time. If this problem is as widespread as I have started to think it is less of a dealership issue and more of a straight up waranty/manufacturer issue.
Thanks for your responce none the less!
Erlend
Thanks for your responce none the less!
Erlend
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Re: (Erlend)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Erlend »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would preffer to keep the dealership out of the topic as far as any kind of blame is concerned. They are at least appearing to want to get to the bottom of things although they are taking their time. If this problem is as widespread as I have started to think it is less of a dealership issue and more of a straight up waranty/manufacturer issue.
Thanks for your responce none the less!
Erlend</TD></TR></TABLE>
Fair enough. I just hope you have plenty of time; I didn't see my bike for a couple months and they still charged me a few hundred in tests and such. I was stupid not to pursue; they probably tell everyone they won't cover due to "user abuse" and the ones who come back to fight are the ones that win. I just didn't have the time or money to deal with it after 2 months and change.
Thanks for your responce none the less!
Erlend</TD></TR></TABLE>
Fair enough. I just hope you have plenty of time; I didn't see my bike for a couple months and they still charged me a few hundred in tests and such. I was stupid not to pursue; they probably tell everyone they won't cover due to "user abuse" and the ones who come back to fight are the ones that win. I just didn't have the time or money to deal with it after 2 months and change.
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