I am about to turbo my motor, but i have a CEL that says im running lean. i thinks its only the number two cylinder judging by the spark plugs. Im putting a brand new greddy turbo kit with e-manage. I was wondering if i should replace the injectors with gsr 240cc or prelude 310cc injectors or stick with new stock injectors? and should i buy a new fuel pump for for the greddy kit?

thanks

 

your injectors are 240cc same as gsr. get the dsm 440cc injectors out of any eclipse turbo. sets can be picked up for cheap (+-$50)

 

this will work with greddy emanage? and what about the fuel pump?

if i have a y8, do i use the black top, blue top? is there a difference?

i need to modify the clips, and i dont need a resistor box because i am obd2, is this correct?

 

YOU CANNOT TURBO YOUR CAR.

in all honesty, you need to read about turbos before u jump right in. e-manage is terrible, get rid of it. you need a real system, crome, hondata, something. and you need AT LEAST dsm 390 cc injectors. preferably 450's. this also means u need to switch to obd1 and use obd0 injector clips and a resistor box.

just to let u know, you arent ready, so take a step back, and re-think what yer doing. do you really wanna blow your motor?


Brett

 

I live in ca, greddy is street legal, obd1 wont pass b.a.r.

i know about converting my car to obd1 and using uberdata and all that. im just not sure about the e-manage. i have to settle with the e-manage for a while. i got a really really good deal on a brand new greddy turbo kit, and i know the e-manage isnt all that great and obd1 with uberdata is way better, but i live in ca. so if anyone could answer my question about injectors and fuel pump with using e-manage. thanks


Modified by 97spooncivic at 7:42 PM 2/4/2006

 

I think you should at least get a new fuel pump. A walboro 255 works good

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97spooncivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I live in ca, greddy is street legal, obd1 wont pass b.a.r.

i know about converting my car to obd1 and using uberdata and all that. im just not sure about the e-manage. i have to settle with the e-manage for a while. i got a really really good deal on a brand new greddy turbo kit, and i know the e-manage isnt all that great and obd1 with uberdata is way better, but i live in ca. so if anyone could answer my question about injectors and fuel pump with using e-manage. thanks


Modified by 97spooncivic at 7:42 PM 2/4/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>

You will want some 310's at the min for the kit. I would reccomend 440's if you plan on 10psi. The 310's are good for 8-10psi before you push them too far. I live in CA also and can help you with tunning via Crome if you want some help/advice. The emanage will produce less then desirable results.

 

you just need to go all out and do it right or u wont make it to your 1st smog appointment. go obd1 untilits time for you to smog your car. then take the turbo kit off and put the stock injectors back in along with the obd2 ecu. after you smog, take an afternoon and put the turbo kit back on. no big deal, will only take ya a couple hours.

thats the RIGHT way to do it. and if i lived in cali, thats how i would do it.


Brett

 

ill want to do that, but dyno time is expensive. hybrid93eg said he would help me out with the tuning, but doesnt it have to be done on a dyno? tuning plus dyno time = alot of $ i dont know i have

 

so? once yer done, you wont need to tune every time u take the kit on and off. the chip will be burned. you can just take out the ecu and slap in the obd2 ecu. then, after you're smogged, put the obd1 ecu back in along with the conversion harness and you are still tuned. the chip doesnt get erased every time u take it out.

go obd1 man, trust me you will blow up your car if stay obd2 and use e-manage


Brett

 

i think you just sold me i still need the emanage to take my car out to get tuned but after that, im gonna sell it. what is the going rate for emanage with everything?

i found someone to tune it for my but it isnt really local. anyone know someone in the OC who can tune?

 

Emanage works fine, lots of people use it with great results.. It wont make as much power as a dyno tuned car on a standalone, but alot of us are looking for certain results that the greddy kit can offer.

Install the kit as per instructions, a walbro 255lph pump is a easy install and will be some added saftey.

I would strongly recommend installing a WBO2 inside the car, the PLX250/300's are lower priced WBO2's.

Im no expert on tuning cars, but i tune the fuel from the WBO2, and timing by looking at the plugs.. (street tuned)

The kit is probably designed to run with stock injectors, so i dont think it would be a great idea to go oversized since you will probably run way too rich (the kit has a tendancy to run rich from the get-go)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HamiltonRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Emanage works fine, lots of people use it with great results.. It wont make as much power as a dyno tuned car on a standalone, but alot of us are looking for certain results that the greddy kit can offer.

Install the kit as per instructions, a walbro 255lph pump is a easy install and will be some added saftey.

I would strongly recommend installing a WBO2 inside the car, the PLX250/300's are lower priced WBO2's.

Im no expert on tuning cars, but i tune the fuel from the WBO2, and timing by looking at the plugs.. (street tuned)

The kit is probably designed to run with stock injectors, so i dont think it would be a great idea to go oversized since you will probably run way too rich (the kit has a tendancy to run rich from the get-go)</TD></TR></TABLE>


step away from the computer!!! you should NEVER run a turbo honda with stock injectors. it is a BAD idea. they max out at about 3 psi with the tiny greddy turbo.

you dont need the e-manage with a chipped obd1 computer running crome/uberdata. you tune with the crome/uberdata program, you need no extra stuff. sell the e-manage right away, you dont need it. get yourself a conversion harness and chipped computer from somone like xenocron (hes on this site, you can pm him) the car will STAY obd1 until u need to get smogged. then u take off the turbo kit and the conversion harness/ecu and slap the stock ecu back in it with the stock injectors and run that car that way for emissions purposes. i hit you up on aim, you need to reply..... there is alot of things i can teach you so you dont blow up. as u can see from the cars in my sig i know what im doing. please man, im only here to help you


Brett aka theogefhatch

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I Have an STD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as u can see from the cars in my sig i know what im doing. please man, im only here to help you


Brett aka theogefhatch</TD></TR></TABLE>

the car in your sig tells us your slowwww

 

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the car in your sig tells us your slowwww </TD></TR></TABLE>

yer an idiot. if you dont have anything good to say, then STFU im trying to help him out

 

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yer an idiot. if you dont have anything good to say, then STFU im trying to help him out</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

While there are better options than E-Manage, it is not terrible by any means. I would like to see some facts that support your statement that the program is indeed "terrible" and will blow up your car if used. Yes uberdata and crome are better options that are free and may be superior, but I would like to see just exectly where you got the idea that E-Manage is bad.

 

TIMING, E-MANAGE CANT ADJUST TIMING

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I Have an STD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yer an idiot. if you dont have anything good to say, then STFU im trying to help him out</TD></TR></TABLE>

hum, your the one knocking e-manage, its not the best fuel management, but for stock block purposes, it works the best.

just because a standalone is the "best" choice, doesnt mean its the "right" choice for that application. my car runs 11.9@ 124mph, all i have is 11psi an fmu, injectors, fuel pump, p28 chipped. nothing else

your right that its the best, but its rediculas to put such an expensive unit on such an ameture setup

so "yer" the idiot.

people, dont waste your money untill you really need it

 

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Your correct. But he could add a MSD setup to retard timing under boost.

Which would probably still keep his car smog legal (not too sure on the laws)

 

EXPENSIVE??? a chipped p28 with crome is 165 shipped from xeno. basemap and all. its acually CHEAPER than running e-manage. so STFU

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I Have an STD &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TIMING, E-MANAGE CANT ADJUST TIMING</TD></TR></TABLE>
WRONG.
http://www.streetlevelperforma....html
lookit the second item there.
E-manage does in fact have the ability to adjust timing.
i had a turbod16 with emanage that ran fine for almost a year, and what killed it was going over a speed bump and cracking my turbo housing.
wish you honda kids would read up a bit before **** talking.
my dad's got a 625 whp supra thats running an emanage, it's prolly ok for this kids little project car.

 

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WRONG.
http://www.streetlevelperforma....html
lookit the second item there.
E-manage does in fact have the ability to adjust timing.
i had a turbod16 with emanage that ran fine for almost a year, and what killed it was going over a speed bump and cracking my turbo housing.
wish you honda kids would read up a bit before **** talking.
my dad's got a 625 whp supra thats running an emanage, it's prolly ok for this kids little project car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, so you buy more crap and now you can "adjust" timing. Now does this include ignition retard under boost? Or jus the ability to modify the ignition maps. The whole thing is the Emanage is still a piggyback unit, not a standalone unit. The way it accomplishes most of its changes is by "fooling" sensors into seeing something other then thier actual readings. A system like Crome doesn't need to fool anything. It uses the factory sensors like they should be used and simply changes the way the data is handled. I have never personally used the emanage, but I have worked on cars with it and I was FAR from impressed in how the cars acted on the street.

Kids? You're still talking about your daddys Supra. How old are you son?

 

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Kids? You're still talking about your daddys Supra. How old are you son?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hahaha