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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Anyone know where i can get a dc4 with a b16a engine smogged and how much would it cost me? I know someone has to know
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 12:34 PM
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illegally or legally? if ur looking for a under the table smog ur looking at the wrong place lol just get a b16a stock ecu and stock cat and ur good to go.
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 12:44 PM
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If he did what you said, he still wouldn't pass visual.

JDMsquad: the only way for you to pass smog is to do it illegally or go OBDII and your smog related b16 parts to 99-00 Si.
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 01:00 PM
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i thought if you have a jdm b16 you would have to change whole much of **** to pass smog? cuz i wanna know too
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 01:42 PM
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pm japjunkie
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 02:43 PM
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does it matter that its a gs-r dc and not a rs or ls?
Old Feb 4, 2006 | 03:41 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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I can pass you.
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Modified by Usagi Yojimbo at 12:40 AM 1/21/2007
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by hazw8st
Remember that vehicle registration, insurance, referee tickets and citations are all huge money makers. The local municipalities have to bring in alot revenue. That revenue is forcefully taken from the middle and bottom tiers in society that do not consult with attorneys and who have the "pay-up and go" mentality. Police officers do clean up the streets and are a great asset to our society, however, the police and courts have to bring in a steady cash flow , and we all know that criminals don't pay their restitution, so that leaves you and me to dish out some dough.
Originally Posted by built562
I call a huge BS on a <FONT COLOR="red">B20</FONT> being BAR'd here in California because it is an illegal swap

<u><FONT COLOR="red">BUMP THIS POST!</FONT></u>

Try using the <u><FONT COLOR="red">SEARCH</FONT></u> function next time<FONT COLOR="red">!</FONT>

Yes, the <FONT COLOR="red">B20</FONT> is a truck motor, yes, it is an illegal swap. Conventional wisdom would agree with you, however, we use propane gas to pass any engine swap in any car. There are legal ways to smog a <FONT COLOR="red">B20</FONT>. Read on......

Illegal <FONT COLOR="red">B20</FONT> swap + propane gas <FONT COLOR="red">=</FONT> Alternative Fueled Emissions compliant engine swap. Alternative fuel is the key word here, forget the motor swap, with Alternative fuel, it is all about making the swap run clean. Even if the engine swap is a turbo GSR, Standalone with ITB's, once it is run on propane, all the performance mods are now legal because you can argue that the GSR, turbo, Standalone and ITB's are needed to take advantage of propane's 110 octane rating. This is cutting edge here, just because this is a loophole that is not commonly used, doesn't mean that it is BS.

Keep in mind that, once you remove the propane and re-tune your setup to run on 91 octane pump gas, you are no longer <FONT COLOR="red">100%</FONT> legal, but wait, there's more.... here is the good part.... the BAR referee sticker in your engine compartment doesn't specify fuel. So, when Johnny law does pull you over, all they do is scratch their heads and wonder how you BAR ref'd a turbo GSR, Standalone with ITB's....

Besides BAR reffing your engine swap there is another interesting loophole that keeps Johnny Law off your back, it is called smog exemption, this exemption is a one time emissions test on propane that certifies your vehicle as an Alternative fueled vehicle and smog exempts the vehicle <u><FONT COLOR="red">FOREVER</FONT></u>, with smog exemption, you will <u><FONT COLOR="red">NEVER</FONT></u> have to smog your vehicle ever again, even when you sell it. Smog exemption is a legal loophole that smog exempts your vehicle forever, no more fooling around with shady emissions shops.

If you look hard enough, there are legal loopholes for everything. Laws, mandates, regulations and government protocols are written by attorneys with legal loopholes and/ oversights written in, that allow everyday citizens to drive, smog, register and import any vehicle ever made on the face of this planet.

For the record, smog exemption, carb exemption, and BAR reffing are 3 completely different processes, these terms cannot be interchanged. BAR reffing, by far, is the most difficult and useless certification. Smog and Carb exemption are far better than a BAR ref'd swap because a BAR ref'd swap still must undergo strict emissions testing, while the smog/carb exempted vehicle doesn't. Also, Johnny Law can ref ticket a Bar ref'd car, but not a carb exempted car. The simple definition of a carb exempted car is a car that is exempted from all carb emissions mandates. Basically, local law enforcement can pop your hood, but, because the vehicle is both smog/carb exempt, it is therefore emissions compliant regardless of what turbo
<FONT COLOR="red">k20</FONT>, GSR or <FONT COLOR="red">b18</FONT> engine swap you may have, a smog/carb exempted car can legally drive around with a fully built turbo GSR with no emissions controls, and never get a referee ticket.

You gotta pay <FONT COLOR="green">$$$$$$$$</FONT> to play.......

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Old Feb 9, 2006 | 04:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek82 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i thought if you have a jdm b16 you would have to change whole much of **** to pass smog? cuz i wanna know too</TD></TR></TABLE>
you just convert everything to 2000 si civic specs or how everything is set up in the del sol that came with a b16.
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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my uncle says that jap motors dont have regestration numbers needed to match the motor to the car.ive got the same problem and it says i need to take my car to a TEST ONLY center...damn i should have kept my d series
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 06:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeye &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my uncle says that jap motors dont have regestration numbers needed to match the motor to the car.ive got the same problem and it says i need to take my car to a TEST ONLY center...damn i should have kept my d series</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think your uncle knows too much for his own good....
Old Feb 9, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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why would you put a b16 in a dc?
Old Feb 10, 2006 | 07:00 AM
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get help from hazw8st he can really help u with this he helped me register and smog my 240 w no problems when nobody else could. I would recommend him to everyone
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 07:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hazw8st &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I think your uncle knows too much for his own good....</TD></TR></TABLE>


yes he does,and thanks for the help and resources.
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why the hell do you have a b16 in a dc?
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vita-Soy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can pass you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Tons of vouches too.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chunty Butt Kevin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why the hell do you have a b16 in a dc?</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdmsquad &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone know where i can get a dc4 with a b16a engine smogged and how much would it cost me? I know someone has to know</TD></TR></TABLE>

Asking in public like this will most likely get you caught by inhouse people.
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chunty Butt Kevin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why the hell do you have a b16 in a dc?</TD></TR></TABLE>
maybe he had a B18 Automatic.....or maybe he got a good deal on the engine....
Old Feb 23, 2006 | 10:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hazw8st &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That's great, however the best way to do it is "electronic certification". The smog certificates all have certificate numbers. If the smog shop gets audited, your smog certificate can get recalled, and that's bad news for the consumer. Electronic certification is the only way to go.

CALIFORNIA REGISTRATION SOLUTIONS (CRS)</TD></TR></TABLE>
how does that work?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hazw8st &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

That's great, however the best way to do it is "electronic certification". The smog certificates all have certificate numbers. If the smog shop gets audited, your smog certificate can get recalled, and that's bad news for the consumer. Electronic certification is the only way to go.

CALIFORNIA REGISTRATION SOLUTIONS (CRS)
</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SoCalGsR1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
how does that work? </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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Old Feb 24, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Chunty Butt Kevin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why the hell do you have a b16 in a dc?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no clue,it is like 20 or so more hp maybe thats why he has it.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SoCalGsR1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
how does that work? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Electronic has a universal certificate number.



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