97 civic help please!!!!
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My name is Aaron I own a 97 honda civic, my mom bought it for me about 2 months ago.
Im only 16 and so far have put a new engine in my self and done everything by my self, i know quite a bit but not all of it. Any help would be nice.
Ive moded it slightly new suspension and sport springs, 17" low profile wheels, AEM cold air intake, 2 way remote with keyless entry and remote start, kenwood cd head unit and infinty speakers with a kicker amp(I would of bought a Sony unit and speakers with amp, but all this was free from a friend at his job).
I need some help moding the engine for racing and would like it to make the sound like some of the cars in NFSUnderground2. When you shift makes a sound like a nos shot or something like that. what is that and what do you do to install it.
Also what would be a good recommendation for fixing up a 4 cylinder(thats what im running-vtec), anything that could make me a better racer. The main reason im doing this stuff is because I love cars and a guy discraces the Honda name and wants to race me for a grand, please help me show this fool how real Honda people do it.
Thanks Aaron
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Im only 16 and so far have put a new engine in my self and done everything by my self, i know quite a bit but not all of it. Any help would be nice.
Ive moded it slightly new suspension and sport springs, 17" low profile wheels, AEM cold air intake, 2 way remote with keyless entry and remote start, kenwood cd head unit and infinty speakers with a kicker amp(I would of bought a Sony unit and speakers with amp, but all this was free from a friend at his job).
I need some help moding the engine for racing and would like it to make the sound like some of the cars in NFSUnderground2. When you shift makes a sound like a nos shot or something like that. what is that and what do you do to install it.
Also what would be a good recommendation for fixing up a 4 cylinder(thats what im running-vtec), anything that could make me a better racer. The main reason im doing this stuff is because I love cars and a guy discraces the Honda name and wants to race me for a grand, please help me show this fool how real Honda people do it.
Thanks Aaron
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broly12phoenix »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I need some help moding the engine for racing and would like it to make the sound like some of the cars in NFSUnderground2. When you shift makes a sound like a nos shot or something like that. what is that and what do you do to install it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
granted I've never played NFS:U but I am guessing that's a blow off valve...and you need a blowoff when you have a turbo to let pressure escape if you close the throttle, so thats what the blowoff does...if you're interested in turboing, read up in the induction section of this board
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broly12phoenix »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also what would be a good recommendation for fixing up a 4 cylinder(thats what im running-vtec), anything that could make me a better racer. The main reason im doing this stuff is because I love cars and a guy discraces the Honda name and wants to race me for a grand, please help me show this fool how real Honda people do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you can't beat everybody, he might be running 10's you dont know
either way, get good at driving, take up some auto-x newbie courses, and get better at driving if you care about more than just driving in a straight line, and worry about putting down more power later
granted I've never played NFS:U but I am guessing that's a blow off valve...and you need a blowoff when you have a turbo to let pressure escape if you close the throttle, so thats what the blowoff does...if you're interested in turboing, read up in the induction section of this board
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broly12phoenix »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also what would be a good recommendation for fixing up a 4 cylinder(thats what im running-vtec), anything that could make me a better racer. The main reason im doing this stuff is because I love cars and a guy discraces the Honda name and wants to race me for a grand, please help me show this fool how real Honda people do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you can't beat everybody, he might be running 10's you dont know
either way, get good at driving, take up some auto-x newbie courses, and get better at driving if you care about more than just driving in a straight line, and worry about putting down more power later
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the guy that wants to race is using a 95 honda civic the only mod to his 4 cylinder is a cold air intake, and he's droped about 2000grand into the interior, like sparco seats(nice seats) and a crap walmart durabrand cd head unit, with speakers.
he gets a new paint job once a month, guess he gets bored.
he gets a new paint job once a month, guess he gets bored.
This is the worst post ever. Who cars just race him and get it over with just dont ******* hurt anyone. There is no tech in this post what so ever. Try this on i have a 89 K car and i want to make sound like freakin Ferrari what should i do????
come on man you were 16 at one point too
listen if he drives a honda too, how is he discrasing them...thats kind of retarded, no?
race him, he might suck at drivign and you might beat him...meh just have fun. and remember there's always someone faster
listen if he drives a honda too, how is he discrasing them...thats kind of retarded, no?
race him, he might suck at drivign and you might beat him...meh just have fun. and remember there's always someone faster
wow... first of all i do not believe that you swapped out your engine... so your probably running a dx motor, d16y7, or a ex motor ,d16y8. both of these engines are SOHC- means single over head cam...
that "nos shot" you hear is a blow off valve. and to equipped your car with a blow off valve you need to boost your car also known as a turbo. i would not suggest boosting a single overhead cam engine just for the fact that you are goin to have to replace a few things. like pistons becuz they probably would melt if your engine isnt in super great condition. and then you would have to change your exhaust to maybe like a 2 1/2" piping and other **** to. so save up your money and swap with dual over head engine. and then you could turbo that. i would go with a b16a2. and for a turbo. go to http://www.cheapturbos.com.. AND PLEASE DONT RACE FOR A "G" BECUZ WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE SO FAR, YOU PROBABLY DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
that "nos shot" you hear is a blow off valve. and to equipped your car with a blow off valve you need to boost your car also known as a turbo. i would not suggest boosting a single overhead cam engine just for the fact that you are goin to have to replace a few things. like pistons becuz they probably would melt if your engine isnt in super great condition. and then you would have to change your exhaust to maybe like a 2 1/2" piping and other **** to. so save up your money and swap with dual over head engine. and then you could turbo that. i would go with a b16a2. and for a turbo. go to http://www.cheapturbos.com.. AND PLEASE DONT RACE FOR A "G" BECUZ WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE SO FAR, YOU PROBABLY DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I LoVe CiViCs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> like pistons becuz they probably would melt if your engine isnt in super great condition. .</TD></TR></TABLE>
not true at all
if you get it tuned properly you will be fine, if you lean the hell out of it, you are going to mess **** up
not true at all
if you get it tuned properly you will be fine, if you lean the hell out of it, you are going to mess **** up
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I LoVe CiViCs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow... first of all i do not believe that you swapped out your engine.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not tune ups
but tuned, as in engine management
meh people learn by messing things up, not by things going right...sad to say but thats what I believe, and the stupidier someone is, the moer change they have at learning ... lol
but tuned, as in engine management
meh people learn by messing things up, not by things going right...sad to say but thats what I believe, and the stupidier someone is, the moer change they have at learning ... lol
I never said he was disgracing hondas, only if he has altezza lights then forget it.....
true
and wen you boost your car you should be getting recent tune ups becus the pressure your putting on the cylinder walls and pistons is too great for them to handle. one tune up a year wont do it
true
and wen you boost your car you should be getting recent tune ups becus the pressure your putting on the cylinder walls and pistons is too great for them to handle. one tune up a year wont do it
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ok after what you guys said, let me make something clear, my dad owns a Car customizing shop and he supervised me in swaping the engine, he said i do this and that and i learned a lot.
second off i have been driving a standard for 2 years, i learned to drive a car with a standard. So yes i know how to drive.
you guys also asked why he is discracing Honda, reason i say that is he has replaced 4 transmissions in the past 6 months on his Honda. Its a standard and he suchs at driving it.
Also last thing you said some things about racing for a grand, what the heck is the big deal with that. Im right now working at computer store customizing computers, and it took me about a year to find a job.
I live in a labor rich town that has 3 colleges in it. Now go figure.
I thank all you guys for the help.
One last thing i told you guys the mods i have right know, what do you think the next mod that i do should be.
Thanks Aaron
second off i have been driving a standard for 2 years, i learned to drive a car with a standard. So yes i know how to drive.
you guys also asked why he is discracing Honda, reason i say that is he has replaced 4 transmissions in the past 6 months on his Honda. Its a standard and he suchs at driving it.
Also last thing you said some things about racing for a grand, what the heck is the big deal with that. Im right now working at computer store customizing computers, and it took me about a year to find a job.
I live in a labor rich town that has 3 colleges in it. Now go figure.
I thank all you guys for the help.
One last thing i told you guys the mods i have right know, what do you think the next mod that i do should be.
Thanks Aaron
Ok...<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broly12phoenix »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i learned to drive a car with a standard. So yes i know how to drive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
By standard I assume you mean manual transmission?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broly12phoenix »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I need some help moding the engine for racing and would like it to make the sound like some of the cars in NFSUnderground2. When you shift makes a sound like a nos shot or something like that. what is that and what do you do to install it.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
That would be the sweet sound of turbo. That takes quite a bit of knowledge, time, and money to accomplish. Just read the posts in the Forced Induction Forum here and you'll learn. At this point, your not ready for this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broly12phoenix »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also what would be a good recommendation for fixing up a 4 cylinder(thats what im running-vtec), anything that could make me a better racer. The main reason im doing this stuff is because I love cars and a guy discraces the Honda name and wants to race me for a grand, please help me show this fool how real Honda people do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This guy you want to race only has CAI and blew his tranny 4 times and your worried that your gonna lose to him?
Right now I guess you can start with the basics, i/h/e (intake/header/exhaust) and that should be enough to beat this "honda disgracer" guy. Now if you want some cheap power, dry shot nitrous.
By standard I assume you mean manual transmission?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broly12phoenix »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I need some help moding the engine for racing and would like it to make the sound like some of the cars in NFSUnderground2. When you shift makes a sound like a nos shot or something like that. what is that and what do you do to install it.
</TD></TR></TABLE>
That would be the sweet sound of turbo. That takes quite a bit of knowledge, time, and money to accomplish. Just read the posts in the Forced Induction Forum here and you'll learn. At this point, your not ready for this.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by broly12phoenix »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Also what would be a good recommendation for fixing up a 4 cylinder(thats what im running-vtec), anything that could make me a better racer. The main reason im doing this stuff is because I love cars and a guy discraces the Honda name and wants to race me for a grand, please help me show this fool how real Honda people do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
This guy you want to race only has CAI and blew his tranny 4 times and your worried that your gonna lose to him?
Right now I guess you can start with the basics, i/h/e (intake/header/exhaust) and that should be enough to beat this "honda disgracer" guy. Now if you want some cheap power, dry shot nitrous.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I LoVe CiViCs »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow... first of all i do not believe that you swapped out your engine... so your probably running a dx motor, d16y7, or a ex motor ,d16y8. both of these engines are SOHC- means single over head cam...
that "nos shot" you hear is a blow off valve. and to equipped your car with a blow off valve you need to boost your car also known as a turbo. i would not suggest boosting a single overhead cam engine just for the fact that you are goin to have to replace a few things. like pistons becuz they probably would melt if your engine isnt in super great condition. and then you would have to change your exhaust to maybe like a 2 1/2" piping and other **** to. so save up your money and swap with dual over head engine. and then you could turbo that. i would go with a b16a2. and for a turbo. go to http://www.cheapturbos.com.. AND PLEASE DONT RACE FOR A "G" BECUZ WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE SO FAR, YOU PROBABLY DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.</TD></TR></TABLE>
...Wow.
What engine did you swap in?
that "nos shot" you hear is a blow off valve. and to equipped your car with a blow off valve you need to boost your car also known as a turbo. i would not suggest boosting a single overhead cam engine just for the fact that you are goin to have to replace a few things. like pistons becuz they probably would melt if your engine isnt in super great condition. and then you would have to change your exhaust to maybe like a 2 1/2" piping and other **** to. so save up your money and swap with dual over head engine. and then you could turbo that. i would go with a b16a2. and for a turbo. go to http://www.cheapturbos.com.. AND PLEASE DONT RACE FOR A "G" BECUZ WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE SO FAR, YOU PROBABLY DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO DRIVE. SO GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.</TD></TR></TABLE>
...Wow.
What engine did you swap in?
I'll give you this, you have the best grammar of all the people who come in here completely clueless.
As far as learning about that "wooshing sound" aka a BOV, get and read <U>Maximum Boost</U>
As far as learning about that "wooshing sound" aka a BOV, get and read <U>Maximum Boost</U>
Originally Posted by broly12phoenix
My name is Aaron I own a 97 honda civic, my mom bought it for me about 2 months ago.
Does your mother know what you've been doing with her car?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im only 16 and so far have put a new engine in my self and done everything by my self</TD></TR></TABLE>
I smell bullshit.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i know quite a bit but not all of it. Any help would be nice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Tip #1: Don't assume you know anything.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive moded it slightly new suspension and sport springs</TD></TR></TABLE>
"New suspension"? Like what?
"Sport springs"? What are the spring rates? What dampers are you using with them?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">17" low profile wheels</TD></TR></TABLE>
WTF is a "low profile wheel"?
And you left out the most important part of the car: the tires. What tires are you using? You realize the tires are the only things that touch the ground and they do all of the accelerating, braking, and turning, right?<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">AEM cold air intake</TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh boy. I bet that gave you a whopping 4 horsepower, for a grand total of 99 at the wheels.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">2 way remote with keyless entry and remote start, kenwood cd head unit and infinty speakers with a kicker amp(I would of bought a Sony unit and speakers with amp, but all this was free from a friend at his job). </TD></TR></TABLE>
You must be so proud

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I need some help moding the engine for racing</TD></TR></TABLE>
What type of "racing"? What organization are you racing with, and class and rule set will you be following? You do realize there is more to racing a car than just the engine, right?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and would like it to make the sound like some of the cars in NFSUnderground2.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's a ******* video game. Time to grow up, step away from the TV, and get out of the house. The real world awaits.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you shift makes a sound like a nos shot or something like that. what is that and what do you do to install it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good lord. Who cares what it sounds like? What does the sound have to do with the performance? I wouldn't care if my car sounded like a Richard Simmons workout video, as long as it does what it is supposed to: accelerate, decelerate, and turn.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also what would be a good recommendation for fixing up a 4 cylinder(thats what im running-vtec)</TD></TR></TABLE>
With what budget? With what goals in mind? Under what rule set (if applicable)?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anything that could make me a better racer</TD></TR></TABLE>
Driver training and practice is the number one way to improve your lap times. I highly recommend a driver training course of some sort to give you proper instruction and seat time for high-performance driving, such as an Evolution Autocross school, a Skip Barber or Bondurant school, or even a NASA HPDE event.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The main reason im doing this stuff is because I love cars and a guy discraces the Honda name and wants to race me for a grand, please help me show this fool how real Honda people do it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And you aren't a disgrace? "Real Honda people" don't go to high school and have retarded kiddie street races between slow lame street cars cars "for a grand." The "real Honda people" take it to the track and do it for the enjoyment.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Honda rules</TD></TR></TABLE>
Honda rules what? All cars are junk, they're all POS machines. Someday when you've grown up and gotten some experience in the real world, you'll realize that blind zealotry will get you nowhere, and there are better things out there than what you've got.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the guy that wants to race is using a 95 honda civic the only mod to his 4 cylinder is a cold air intake</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah? That's the only mod you have too. Which is funny.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he's droped about 2000grand into the interior</TD></TR></TABLE>
Really? 2 million dollars?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">like sparco seats(nice seats) and a crap walmart durabrand cd head unit, with speakers.</TD></TR></TABLE>
My car has no head unit or speakers at all. Guess that means it is lame and a disgrace to Soichiro Honda's name, huh?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok after what you guys said, let me make something clear, my dad owns a Car customizing shop and he supervised me in swaping the engine, he said i do this and that and i learned a lot.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Good to know you learned a lot. Keep learning
you have a long way to go.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">second off i have been driving a standard for 2 years, i learned to drive a car with a standard. So yes i know how to drive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Knowing how to operate a car does not equal knowing how to drive.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also last thing you said some things about racing for a grand, what the heck is the big deal with that. Im right now working at computer store customizing computers, and it took me about a year to find a job.
I live in a labor rich town that has 3 colleges in it. Now go figure.</TD></TR></TABLE>
So why would you waste $1000 of your hard earned money on stupid **** like this? Save it and do something smarter with it.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thank all you guys for the help.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You're welcome. If you'd like to know anything else, don't hesitate to ask. I'll be glad to answer any questions you have. Have a pleasant evening.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One last thing i told you guys the mods i have right know, what do you think the next mod that i do should be.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Driving school. Mod the driver first, not the car.
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