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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:41 PM
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Just a little backround information. I am in the Navy stationed in Japan and I own a 96 R. I want to take the car back with me and register it in TX so I am making this thread to show what is the process of taking it back. I do not fully know how to do this so I am e-mailing the TX DMV as we speak. I will show you all what I am telling the DMV and what they are saying to me. All I am doing right now is finding out information. If it works out for me then great and if it does not well many parts will find their new home when I get back.

Note: I am not transfering out of Japan for another couple of years so I have quite a bit of time to research this topic. All the information I find out will be posted here in this thread for research purposes.

This is the email I sent the DMV.

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My name is %%%%%%%%%%% and I am in the Navy stationed in Japan. I currently own a 1996 Honda Integra (RHD) that I am using as my personal vehicle while stationed here in Japan. My tour does not end for another couple of years and I want to take my POV back to Texas with me when I get stationed in the USA. I would like to know what I need to do in order to get my vehicle registered and titled in Texas/Bexar County. I am aware of the United States Customs Declaration form HS-7 that must be completed prior to entry to the United States but any additional information would be greatly appreciated.

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Also If you guys have any information regarding this issue post it here.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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I thought if you were in the service, 2 years was the maximum you can hold a car in the US.

(BTW, I am no pro at thie subject)
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:53 PM
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good luck to you, i've had mine for almost a year now, and i still haven't been able to register it. hopefully you'll have better results than i.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 05:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by migs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I thought if you were in the service, 2 years was the maximum you can hold a car in the US.

(BTW, I am no pro at thie subject)</TD></TR></TABLE>

what i thought(I myself may be wrong) was that if you are a foriegn diplomat and want to bring your POV over, you can do so with no rules for 2 years, then it goes back. I do not know if that carries over to bringing a car back from overseas though. I think you must have it registered.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 06:38 AM
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good luck
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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good luck with your registering the vehicle... if it doesn't go through, at least you'll have a lot of parts or a really awesome track-only car!
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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If all else fails just bring the car over here and use it as a track/show car. The military will ship it over for free, if its paid off, why not? I also believe being in the military you are alotted a certain amount of time to get it registered. When the time comes if its ported in MD give me a call. I know some customs people there.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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These documents contain text of correspondence sent by TxDOT to the county tax assessor-collectors, statutory agents who provide vehicle registration and titling services for citizens in Texas. This information is provided to apprise the general public of issues affecting the state’s vehicle titling and registration process.



Registration and Title Bulletin #013-03

Date: February 5, 2003
To: All County Tax Assessor-Collectors
Subject: Entry Declaration Form for Importation of Personal Vehicles

PURPOSE
To provide uniform guidelines for the entry declaration form required for the importation of personal vehicles for use by non-residents, returning military personnel, and returning official government employees.

DETAILS
Effective immediately, the U.S. Customs Form CF7501 (refer to attachment) will be the official entry declaration document used for the importation of personal vehicles by individuals.

Note: TAC LTR 37-98 provided a list of forms which can be used as satisfactory proof of entry through U.S. Customs. These 8 separate forms can be found under Figure 4 of the Vehicle Title Manual. This information is an addendum to the acceptance of the entry forms.

This information in no way supersedes the mandatory requirement of the U.S. DOT Form HS-7 or any other importation documentation.
U.S. Customs Offices will allow the individuals to file a CF7501 to document the "entry" of that vehicle. The following statement must be written on the face of the CF7501: "This vehicle originally entered the United States at the port of _______ on (insert date) by the individual filing this CF7501."

This procedure only applies to vehicles that meet the following criteria:

Personal vehicle
Imported for personal use by non-residents, returning military personnel, or returning official government employees
Conform with DOT safety standards
Duty free (no bond required).
COUNTY ACTION

Accept and process title transactions containing the required documentation for imported personal vehicles, as stated under DETAILS.
Otherwise, deny and advise applicant what is needed.
CONTACT
If you have any questions regarding this bulletin, please contact your local Texas Department of Transportation, Vehicle Titles and Registration Division Regional Office. Thank you.



In some cases the Registration and Title Bulletins (RTB) contain attachments. If you require a copy of the original signed RTB and the attachments, please email your request with the RTB number to VTR Info Request/Open Records. Repeat requests are subject to charges in accordance with Open Record policies. A subscription service is also available for an annual fee of $250. Subscribers will automatically receive all RTB mailings as they are issued

US DOT CUSTOMS DECLARATION FORM.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...t.pdf

If you notice on the declaration form there is a block for having the car go though a registered importer, but the Integra has not been approved for this so you can not go that way. The other way is to check block #7 which is for racing use but if you read the print it says that it will be imported for a specific amount of time and the must be exported after that time has ran out.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The military will ship it over for free</TD></TR></TABLE>

No they won't. If the car does not meet US requirements then they will not ship it as a normal POV.

Im still waiting for a reply from the TX DOT.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by armaniex92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


No they won't. If the car does not meet US requirements then they will not ship it as a normal POV.


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Check your regs! They will.

&lt;worked Customs for the Army
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 02:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by walker111 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Check your regs! They will.

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We have to go though FISC personal property over here and when I went over there they said they wouldn't do it. I knew that wasn't right so i've been looking for the instruction. No instruction=No proof. I think its a DOD instruction not a Navy instruction.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 02:10 PM
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not usre about japanese cars (rhd) but i do know they will ship your car from overseas for free..

you know if anything.. as a last resort, you could also chop the front off, and ship that back, as personal property.. as household goods.. i know itll kill your total weight limit.. but you could always put that into a USDM teg.. not the same, but always an option.. or you could ship it back as a racecar.. im not sure if the military will do that or not.

good luck, and thanks for servicing. i just got out of the navy last week as an IT2
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/

Your car can not be legally imported into the United States as a complete car because it is not on the Import Eligibility list posted at the above link that is maintained by NHTSA.

You will also not get approved for a show/display exemption, or for a race exemption for importation of the vehicle, so don't bother trying.

Your best bet is to have the car dismantled (drivetrain removed), and have the shell and drivetrain shipped and imported separately into the country. When you ship in a wrecked vehicle (has to be totalled or near to it), or a vehicle without a drivetrain, it can not be considered by Customs or the US Gov't as a "vehicle", but instead must be considered as parts.

Once the shell has cleared customs as parts, you can re-assemble the vehicle at your own discretion and you in effect become the vehicle manufacturer at that point.

This is the exact way that Shelby kit car manufacturers can make their kit cars and sell them without having to comply with current Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (dual SRS, etc...) and EPA OBD2 requirements, because they sell them without drivetrains, so the US gov't can consider them cars, just an assemblage of parts. The owners of the kit have to install a drivetrain themselves, and technically they are considered by the US gov't to be the vehicle manufacturer at that point.

Now, what you do with either car (an imported re-assembled JDM car, or a US built kit car) is up to you and the DMV.

I recommend that you not say anything about the vehicle being imported, or being RHD, etc... to the DMV. Fill out your application for a title and registration with the JDM VIN on the paperwork, and if your state requires it you can even have a VIN inspection done by highway patrol or an inspection station since the VIN is stamped into the firewall and is on the plate under the hood.

Each state is different how they handle these types of registrations. Whether TX will consider your car a "kit" car or a re-assembled car, or just a normal Integra is up to them.

Like I said though, flaunting the words JDM and RHD and Imported will immediately raise red flags at the DMV and you will have big problems because this type of thing is not done very often so hardly any normal DMV employee will be well-versed in exactly what needs to happen.

Best of luck.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 03:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YumVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/

Your car can not be legally imported into the United States as a complete car because it is not on the Import Eligibility list posted at the above link that is maintained by NHTSA.
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I read that link before I started this. Those rules apply to people wanting to register their car fedarally. I do not want to register the car fedarally but register by state(TX).

To import the vehicle you have to have the HS-7 properly filled out.

Ive heard of the "kit car" idea and im looking into that so if I find out any information on this I will post it up here.

Im just trying to put out information regarding this topic.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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Good luck!
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by armaniex92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I read that link before I started this. Those rules apply to people wanting to register their car fedarally. I do not want to register the car fedarally but register by state(TX).

To import the vehicle you have to have the HS-7 properly filled out.

Ive heard of the "kit car" idea and im looking into that so if I find out any information on this I will post it up here.

Im just trying to put out information regarding this topic.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The HS7 is a federal document, customs is a federal government organization. If you want to bring the car legally into the country you have to use an HS7, you are correct. The Texas DMV has been instructed by the federal government to require the HS7.

Can you tell me which box on the HS7 you plan on having your customs broker use when they declare the car to get it entered into the country? That's right, you can't just fill out an HS7 by yourself. You have to have a customs broker do it for you, and it has to be signed off on by customs.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...t.pdf

Box 1: for cars 25+ years old
Box 2a: for cars that have certification labels attached by the manufacturer certifying FMVSS compliance
Box 2b: cars that meet all requirements and have a letter from the manufacturer verifying compliance
Box 3: for cars that are on the eligibility list, being given to a registered importer to bring into compliance (only rhd cars on list are 94-97 accord & 90-99 skyline)
Box 4: for cars that are being immediately exported and only being shipped through the US
Box 5: for foreign citizens with foreign-issued passports, and foreign issued registration for car, temporary importation for only one year
Box 6: for foreign diplomats stationed in the US
Box 7: show/display, must have previous approval from NHTSA
Box 8: for vehicles not originally manufactured for use on the road
Box 9: for manufacturers to use to import partially assembled vehicles that comply with all FMVSS and that will be completed in the US
Box 10: not in use
Box 11: not applicable
Box 12: for members of foreign military only on assignment in the US

I don't really see a single box that applies to you and your car.

I gave you some damn good advice. I suggest you read, re-read, understand, and apply. Look at the cars that I have owned that I have listed in my sig. I know a thing or two about what I'm talking about.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YumVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The HS7 is a federal document, customs is a federal government organization. If you want to bring the car legally into the country you have to use an HS7, you are correct. The Texas DMV has been instructed by the federal government to require the HS7.

Can you tell me which box on the HS7 you plan on having your customs broker use when they declare the car to get it entered into the country? That's right, you can't just fill out an HS7 by yourself. You have to have a customs broker do it for you, and it has to be signed off on by customs.

http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/...t.pdf

Box 1: for cars 25+ years old
Box 2a: for cars that have certification labels attached by the manufacturer certifying FMVSS compliance
Box 2b: cars that meet all requirements and have a letter from the manufacturer verifying compliance
Box 3: for cars that are on the eligibility list, being given to a registered importer to bring into compliance (only rhd cars on list are 94-97 accord & 90-99 skyline)
Box 4: for cars that are being immediately exported and only being shipped through the US
Box 5: for foreign citizens with foreign-issued passports, and foreign issued registration for car, temporary importation for only one year
Box 6: for foreign diplomats stationed in the US
Box 7: show/display, must have previous approval from NHTSA
Box 8: for vehicles not originally manufactured for use on the road
Box 9: for manufacturers to use to import partially assembled vehicles that comply with all FMVSS and that will be completed in the US
Box 10: not in use
Box 11: not applicable
Box 12: for members of foreign military only on assignment in the US

I don't really see a single box that applies to you and your car.

I gave you some damn good advice. I suggest you read, re-read, understand, and apply. Look at the cars that I have owned that I have listed in my sig. I know a thing or two about what I'm talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im not doubting you at all. In fact I think you are putting out very good information.

I was going to import the car using block #7 getting approval from NHTSA before I even think about putting it on a ship or getting a customs broker. I have an appointment with base legal to discuss this topic so ill see what they tell me. I don't think its going to be anything you (YumVTEC) have not said already but i'll see.
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I just bought a rhd from my local tunning shop, we do bussiness with each other. I know texas is diff from ca but he has brought over 12 96 and 97 itr in containers with out taking them apart and is selling them like hot cakes out here. He sells them reg with tags. Send me your number and I will give it to him. Then he could help you out or something. Its worth a try because he is doing it. all legal. mine is on the way other as we speak. Now I will have two, Man I cant wait.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just bought a rhd from my local tunning shop, we do bussiness with each other. I know texas is diff from ca but he has brought over 12 96 and 97 itr in containers with out taking them apart and is selling them like hot cakes out here. He sells them reg with tags. Send me your number and I will give it to him. Then he could help you out or something. Its worth a try because he is doing it. all legal. mine is on the way other as we speak. Now I will have two, Man I cant wait. </TD></TR></TABLE>

this would be a good option for you. 90% or more of containers don't get opened and inspected by customs, so if this guy is willing to take the risk himself of shipping in complete cars and declaring them as parts (which he has to be doing), and isn't getting caught by customs, then it would save you the hassle of removing the drivetrain.

sounds like he has some hookup at the DMV also if he can get them tagged.

the show/display exemption is rarely rarely granted by NHTSA. your car has to be really f'ing rare or unique to get that.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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couldnt you just register it as a recreation vehicle? after you get all the safety and crash testing guidelines up to part on the R
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YumVTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

this would be a good option for you. 90% or more of containers don't get opened and inspected by customs, so if this guy is willing to take the risk himself of shipping in complete cars and declaring them as parts (which he has to be doing), and isn't getting caught by customs, then it would save you the hassle of removing the drivetrain.

sounds like he has some hookup at the DMV also if he can get them tagged.

the show/display exemption is rarely rarely granted by NHTSA. your car has to be really f'ing rare or unique to get that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey just trying to help out a fellow itr owner, I will say this. When that car comes out of the container, It is in no condition to go to a show, Theses cars are not in the best condition, most of them allways need some kind of body work, ie, scratches, a couple of dings. He had pictures of one of his shipment he had two itr stacked on top of each other, no ****. He was telling me that it is easier to get a itr reg because it is a production car that is sold over here. something like that so please don't qoute me because I don't know the ins and outs, just saying what I was told. but anyhow he said he would help you out so when you are ready just shoot the number.
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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goodluck
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Old Oct 5, 2006 | 09:07 PM
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Hey Nick, how have you been? Did your daughter like the chocolates? So I guess, everyone is moving too.
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