Soo...I TIG'd up my first collector last night!!!

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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Default Soo...I TIG'd up my first collector last night!!!

**Keep in mind that I have maybe 45 minutes of total weld time experience, and that I have never been fully trained. All of my techniques have been picked up from this site (and my online mentor. You know who you are... )**

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The inside is black because I didn't purge it. I'm surprised how very little sugaring there actually was though. Penetration was very good (about 75%), and really the only trouble I had welding the peice was welding the top where all 4 pipes meet. I don't know how you guys do it.

This is just the start of my EF top mount turbo manifolds that I hope to be selling here very soon!!! PM me if your interested!

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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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good job man! for your first time I think you kicked the **** out of my first time lol. I'll PM you the info on how to weld the inner part. Its really simple you just havent thought about it :-P


AWE no! not another manifold fabricator ROFL. keep up the practice! start making creative **** and just KEEP welding.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:31 AM
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Looks good, not bad
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 04:21 AM
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Trying to figure out why you welded the wastegate elbow on there at this stage? Won't it be more difficult to weld the runners on the collectors on that side now? Maybe not it just looks that way from these pics.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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Just curious how you know it's about 75% penetration?
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and really the only trouble I had welding the peice was welding the top where all 4 pipes meet. I don't know how you guys do it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

How do we do it, very carefully
I have been building manifolds for years now and collectors is still the part I dread the most.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 07:47 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jays91DXhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Trying to figure out why you welded the wastegate elbow on there at this stage? Won't it be more difficult to weld the runners on the collectors on that side now? Maybe not it just looks that way from these pics.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The way the runners are going to sit, doesn't interfere with the WG tube at all. And with this way I can make sure the runners won't interfere with the WG/WG tube.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just curious how you know it's about 75% penetration?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Of couse this is really just an estimate, but I welded the whole collector before I drilled the hole for the WG tube. That way I could see the penetration on the side. I left a small gap between the tubes so I could check how much penetration there was.

Thanks guys!

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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Gotcha
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 08:20 AM
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Not too shabby for your first and such little time welding. On the sides of the collector, add/feed more filler next time so you avoid the undercutting.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Nice work Bryson
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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N0ice
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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By looking at ur welding, u were born a welder
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 02:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> and really the only trouble I had welding the peice was welding the top where all 4 pipes meet. I don't know how you guys do it.

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Some people use these, it makes it A little easier to get in there,
http://www.weldingdirect.com/w....html
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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bah...you had to go and tell everyone. just PM it to him!!!!
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ~RTErnie~ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bah...you had to go and tell everyone. just PM it to him!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not like it's an earth shattering secret.

Side note: Who isn't attempt to sell manifolds anymore?
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rkeith &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It's not like it's an earth shattering secret.

Side note: Who isn't attempt to sell manifolds anymore? </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol I didnt know about those nozels and I have been doing manifolds for years, thanks for telling us all
-James
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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this site is turning into manifold-tech.
Good start on the welding, add a bit more filler to loose the undercutting.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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What brand/model of TIG did you use? Kicks the hellass out of my first welding experience..actually, out of my first 10 experiences..

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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbocivic94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">By looking at ur welding, u were born a welder </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol! Whats funny, is that almost 5 people have told me that! The first time I ever welded anything was a DP with a MIG. I posted up the pics, and someone told me that I should try and find a job. I think I might try and get certified and then see what kind of job I can get...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 91TSiGuy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not too shabby for your first and such little time welding. On the sides of the collector, add/feed more filler next time so you avoid the undercutting.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I will definetly try that! I also want to try out a 3/32" tungsten and filler and compare the results.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mkehler &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What brand/model of TIG did you use? Kicks the hellass out of my first welding experience..actually, out of my first 10 experiences..
Matt</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's a Miller Maxstar 150STH. It was worth every penny! As soon as the funds permit, I'd like to sell it, and get they Dynastar 200 so I can weld aluminum as well.

Thanks guys!

And about the comments about another manifold maker coming about...

Its just the way of buisness. However, I'm not here to take away the buisness of other companies, or copy someone elses design. The whole reason I started doing this was because I have my own designs that I'd like to produce... One of them, being a 4.0L Jeep turbo manifold...
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 04:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ~RTErnie~ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bah...you had to go and tell everyone. just PM it to him!!!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

O sorry I didn't know it was A big secret... I guess there goes the turbo manifold industry..lol


Modified by Dragline at 4:43 PM 2/1/2006
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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Those nozzles rock, learn something everyday.

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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Its just the way of buisness. However, I'm not here to take away the buisness of other companies, or copy someone elses design. The whole reason I started doing this was because I have my own designs that I'd like to produce... One of them, being a 4.0L Jeep turbo manifold... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hear that. There are about 150,000 people making turbo manifolds for Hondas... We need people working on other applications to bring the prices down. I only do Kia manifolds right now.
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I hear that. There are about 150,000 people making turbo manifolds for Hondas... We need people working on other applications to bring the prices down. I only do Kia manifolds right now.</TD></TR></TABLE>

im doing neons and srt-4's :-D
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 11:29 AM
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Lookin' good man
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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The problem with those long nozzles is you still can't see down inside a deep small
opening.I just use a gas lens and pull the tungsten way out.If your welding down into an opening that is almost sealed up.Put the torch in the opening and click the pedal so the post purge is on and let the post purge fill the hole up with argon for a sec first then weld .Argon is heavier than air so it forces all the air out the top.
Here is a collector that I did yesterday.All I did is buff the color off .No sanding was doneon the outside.

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