Making my first turbo manifold (its really hard)

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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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yea i cant make anything work. i can barely get 1 runner to place the collector where i want it. i tried duel ram, top mount, full-race copy.

how was your first manifold? what am i doing wrong? in case you need to know i am using schedule 10 ss. i got a 4" bmc rectanguglar collector.

PLEASE HELP ME.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 08:57 PM
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what i did was place the collector where i wanted it first, and worked the runners back to the head . it took alot of cutting and grinding to get them to fit right, patience is key. keep trying you'll get it.
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 08:58 PM
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nothing like starting with a simple one, lol. good luck
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Old Jan 29, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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i do mine in cad first, that way i have a concrete visual of what i want to do
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 03:03 AM
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yea i tried copying off of one of those from another post , but i couldnt do that either. did you use complete 45 and 90 els? did you cut them to work? if you cut them how can you make sure you are cutting it right and not cheating angles?

so who wants to design a mani for me that i can def copy?
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:09 AM
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ok its really easy. Use your brain...visualize what you want. ( I have a photographic brain..I can see it...and then set it free :-P )

ok... cut ur **** with a chop saw...that will save you like hours. lol.

bolt head flange to head. position turbo where you want it... approx. if you can make a tab that holds the turbo where you want it...bolt it to the turbine center section bolts....so you can still clock the turbine housing if you wish.

Now..I make my merge collector...done. weld merge collector to T3 flange after I bolt it to a chunk of aluminum or the turbine housing.

bolt ur merge collector/flange up to your "mounted" turbo.

now take two bends (90's) in your left hand...and one in your right. And play around with postioning them weird. Try to make a ram horn. Set your collector up and figure that you want the back two runners into teh collector to meet your outer two runnings on the head. DO THIS USING 3 90 DEGREE BENDS ONLY! balance the length between the two sides. now...tacking fitment. .... tacking is your friend. Tack it twice LIGHTLY to hold the pieces there. take 90 degrees from each other...NEVER 180. if you tack 180 how the expletive are you going to get them apart? tack it up and then tack ur collector to your runners.

NOW. go back through and tack each part of teh runner (not at collector and not at head flange) and tack each joint 5 times total...so its STOUT. unbolt ur turbo and manifold...set it on your work bench. Connect the dots.

im going to leave the rest out... I may have given you too much information already. The more you do it the more you'll learn little tricks to make your life easier....so you dont want to hang yourself.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 12:18 PM
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ok ill try that tonight, anyone else want to chime in? 9and can i be a part of your miller club?
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 02:29 PM
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sure I think ur number 3 lol.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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tnaks ill add it to my profile
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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so are you supposed to take each runner out and weld them individually then place them back in their proper place and weld them to the flange and collector? I would like to learn this also.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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word thats how you do it. otherwise you wont be able to move the torch around the pipe.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 09:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by meanEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">word thats how you do it. otherwise you wont be able to move the torch around the pipe.</TD></TR></TABLE>

bah good fabricators dont break them off and weld them individually...thats ridiculous! we can weld taht **** in any position haha

btw....dont give out all the secrets. We dont need 5 more people selling turbo manifolds.
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Old Jan 30, 2006 | 10:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i do mine in cad first, that way i have a concrete visual of what i want to do</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup same here.

It's always the best way to get at least a visual of what you want, and what will most likely work.

I just wish Solidneverworks would be a little more user freindly.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 12:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yup same here.

It's always the best way to get at least a visual of what you want, and what will most likely work.

I just wish Solidneverworks would be a little more user freindly. </TD></TR></TABLE>

No kidding.
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Old Jan 31, 2006 | 04:07 AM
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yea, im having a hell of a time remembering how to just move the pipes around and get them to join up with the head flange... i actually remember more about autocad than i do about solidworks.... although i do like a lot of the features in solidworks better, like the fillet and stuff and the visuals are easier to use.

hopefully ill get some pointers here from solildsuck users, lol
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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here is the progress so far. any suggestions before i weld it up? also do you have any way i can make that alt. bracket a lot nicer?

also look at the manifold i am using. i am cutting it out deeper in the plenum still.








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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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looking great
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 08:41 PM
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yeh i agree. keep at it!
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Old Feb 1, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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the only thing i would recomend is that you make sure you will be able to get all the bolts on there. too tight of a angle off the head flange might make things a little headache down the road. But it looks great keep at it and be patient. good luck
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 03:44 AM
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thanks
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by meanEG &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here is the progress so far. any suggestions before i weld it up? also do you have any way i can make that alt. bracket a lot nicer?

also look at the manifold i am using. i am cutting it out deeper in the plenum still.



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that intake manifold looks good, someone on HT is selling one he ported himself, but its a gsr, talk to him about it if you have more questions.





edit: a user name would help JDMisGOOD
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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just started welding it up tonight.
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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off topic, why is that altinator mounted in the front? is it running off the ac drice on the pully?
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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that intake manifold looks good, someone on HT is selling one he ported himself, but its a gsr, talk to him about it if you have more questions.





edit: a user name would help JDMisGOOD </TD></TR></TABLE>

that is exactly what i was going to do with my spare mani. my buddy with a 4 axis haas was going to do it for me. that was until i made 409whp without it and i figured why waste my time
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Old Feb 2, 2006 | 07:51 PM
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stick to the A20A3 J/k

Because thet alternator is almost in the exact same spot stock
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