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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 04:49 PM
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looking to take my ac out of h22a, becuase it doesnt work anyway was wondering what belt i need to replace it with when i take it off. I saw that i will need a shorter belt. have searched numerous times but not found ne thing to really answer my question.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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Instead of taking out the compressor - you can just leave it there and some how disengage the clutch. That way it won't rob the engine of power at all.

....you might just need an AC service or something. Try replacing the suva and make sure you evacuate the system for a good 30min or so.

The lines are self explanatory. Just disconnect everything. But like i said, just disengage the clutch somehow and just take out all the lines and everything. It won't be difficult.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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i took mine out. when i got a new belt, i took a piece of string and put it around the pulleys and cut it to the length i needed. i went to advance auto with the old belt and the string and they measured the string and gave me one that fit exactly.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 07:49 PM
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i took out my friends ac, and we went to autozone and they had a alternater belt with-out ac in there system. it worked fine.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:20 PM
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Like i said. Thats too much work.

Just remove the suva from the lines - and disengage the clutch for the compressor.

There is absolutely no need for another belt. Just keep the compressor on - but it's just not working because the compressor clutch isn't engaging.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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Any idea on the hp gain for doing this? If I'm not mistaken it is 5 or 6, correct?
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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very true. but some people want to lose the extra weight, and clean up the engine bay a little. either way would work.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:29 PM
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i thought you only lose hp with your AC only when it is on. otherwise it makes no difference... is that correct?
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:31 PM
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You're correct. It doesn't rob power at all unless its on.

THe pulley spins freely on a bearing until the clutch is engaged - then it connects to the compressor and it starts working. But if you won't have it on - it doesn't do ****.

Its a worthless mod to me. The compressor weighs nothing but a few pounds - you can easily play baseball with it(not really - unless you have a big ******* bat).......

If someone wants to clean up the bay, just take out the AC lines, compressor - receiver dryer.....and all that.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:37 PM
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That's a good idea. I am getting a built H22 put in my 4th gen within a week. (currently getting built) and I was going to get all that unnecessary stuff out while the motor was out of the car. AC and anything else that isn't needed. might consider doing what you recommended kingpin.
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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I think that would be better - because you can always just hook up the lines, charge the system with suva and go.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 05:18 AM
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or u can just call me marcel...i did use to have a prelude...and i didn't have ac in it...or either one of my civics
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 06:06 AM
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lol ite mario my bad...i didn't even think bout that homeboy. dustin actually wanted to kno this since he's the one with an h22 in his prelude but i will get in touch with u soon then. thanx bro
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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even if the clutch is disengaged, it will still rob your engine of a little power, its something else the engine has to rotate...and that compressor weighs like 15lbs! take it out, it's just a few bolts, and looks a lot better without it in there. take out that ac fan too. it's in no way too much work to go up to the store to get a new belt.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelude_h22vtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">even if the clutch is disengaged, it will still rob your engine of a little power, its something else the engine has to rotate...and that compressor weighs like 15lbs! take it out, it's just a few bolts, and looks a lot better without it in there. take out that ac fan too. it's in no way too much work to go up to the store to get a new belt.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats full of ****.
If the clutch is not engaged, the pulley spins freely. How the hell does that rob the engine of power? Stop spreading false information

And 15lbs is nothing. Tell him to clean how his damn trunk - or lose 15lbs. Thats stupid in my opinion.

You've been added to my dumb list.

The point of adding a clutch is for it to NOT rob the engine of power - otherwise, they'd probably leave it on all the time.

Either way will work, but if you don't feel like taking off the belt and doing the extra work.........don't.

AND - what the hell do you mean take out the AC fan?..........there is no AC fan. There's a blower fan - but that pushes the air into the passenger compartment. If he takes that out, he won't have heat either.........so, once again, thats dumb.

If he wants to take osme things out - take out the condenser, the lines, the receiver dryer, and you can take out the evaporator. Leave everything else. If you want to replace the belt, take out the compressor also.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheKINGPin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

AND - what the hell do you mean take out the AC fan?..........there is no AC fan. There's a blower fan - but that pushes the air into the passenger compartment. If he takes that out, he won't have heat either.........so, once again, thats dumb.

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There is an AC fan, dude. It's right next to the rad fan.....don't tell others they're full of **** when you don't know either.

There's also an entire AC wiring harness that can be removed.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:10 AM
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Well technically its an "AC fan" however, it is used for other things.

The fans we have are "puller fans" meaning that they pull air through the radiator and condenser. So, taking those off would be stupid - technically, it'll just make the cooling system less efficient at idle. And when i say cooling, i'm talking about engine cooling, not air cooling.

Either way, i'd leave it in.

If it was a 'pusher fan' i'd take it off.

What is his motive of taking this out? I read that it doesn't work - but does he want this for performance or looks?.............
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheKINGPin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well technically its an "AC fan" however, it is used for other things.

The fans we have are "puller fans" meaning that they pull air through the radiator and condenser. So, taking those off would be stupid - technically, it'll just make the cooling system less efficient at idle. And when i say cooling, i'm talking about engine cooling, not air cooling.

Either way, i'd leave it in.

If it was a 'pusher fan' i'd take it off.
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IT ONLY ENGAGES WHEN THE AC IS ON! IT DOES NOTHING WHEN IT'S OFF OR THE AC IS REMOVED. Are you saying fans that sit there and blow in the wind are beneficial to engine cooling?

If it's a puller or pusher or wheel barrow it doesn't matter, it's soul purpose is to give extra cooling to compensate for the AC being turned on.
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 10:51 AM
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Ok. Yes you're correct. I forgot that mine is wired with the cooling fan.

Regardless, we're going off topic.

My suggestion: just take everything else out - but leave the compressor.

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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silverlude15 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hawkze_2.3 = 1
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........ post whoring?

So what kind of belt does he need if he takes his compressor off silverlude15?
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 03:27 PM
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i took my dead ac system out. heres what i did..
removed condensor & fan
removed compressor
removed all lines
removed accumulator
gutted evaporator from vent system
picked up a new alternator belt

i was aiming for weight reduction and cleaner looking engine bay


Modified by danerr at 5:02 PM 1/27/2006
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Old Jan 27, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheKINGPin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok. Yes you're correct. I forgot that mine is wired with the cooling fan.

Regardless, we're going off topic.

My suggestion: just take everything else out - but leave the compressor.

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wtf? i took out everything a/c related and weighed it, came out to 38 lbs, and a good 20 of that is the compressor/bracket......taking that off is a matter of 4 bolts and a prelude S w/o ac belt...and youre saying leave the easiest, heaviest part and remove the lines which are the hardest to get out? the lines to the rec/dryer have to be cut or bent to remove and my lines from the comp to evaporator were so froze together i had to cut that too.

advantages: lose 38 lbs, almost all of it coming off the nose of the car, exactly where you want it to be light
more air to your radiator...the condenser sits in front of it...
less crap to work around

dude, to each his own, but your reasoning makes no sense
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 04:20 AM
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That's true, took mine out too with the condenser, dryer, fan and lines and I bought a belt for a non A/C Accord and fitted right in. Eventhough it "freely" spins it robs some power.
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Old Jan 28, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by weenie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

wtf? i took out everything a/c related and weighed it, came out to 38 lbs, and a good 20 of that is the compressor/bracket......taking that off is a matter of 4 bolts and a prelude S w/o ac belt...and youre saying leave the easiest, heaviest part and remove the lines which are the hardest to get out? the lines to the rec/dryer have to be cut or bent to remove and my lines from the comp to evaporator were so froze together i had to cut that too.

advantages: lose 38 lbs, almost all of it coming off the nose of the car, exactly where you want it to be light
more air to your radiator...the condenser sits in front of it...
less crap to work around

dude, to each his own, but your reasoning makes no sense</TD></TR></TABLE>

My reasoning?..........My only reason was that if he wanted to put AC back in his car in the future - it would be an easy transition.

38lbs?.......is that it? So much work for so little weight. Like i said before - he can probably clean out his trunk and lose that kind of weight. And no - if it spins freely, its probably losing oh maybe .3hp.

The fact is that you're not going to become "quick" by taking out your AC. Do something more constructive with your time.

The AC lines don't have to be bent to be taken out - unless they were bent after they were put in.

Your AC lines froze because you didn't evacuate the system long enough. If you did at all........


You're acting like a compressor weighs SO much when you can easily pick it up with one hand and throw it around the room. 38 lbs is absolute ****. The compressor probably weighs about 1/4 of that - maybe 10lbs. Which is not worth it in my opinion.

Like i said before, if he takes everything else out - and leave the compressor, it'll be easier.

You all must be these HORSEPOWER freaks -"Oh, I took out my AC and gained .3 HP y0!" When in theory, there is no such thing as Horsepower.

If someone wants to become "faster" work on your launching - or your overall driving.....that is what I would be doing. Losing that little weight after all that work?........not worth it. And he might want it back in the future.

Gaining .3"horsepower" will not yield you any different time in the 1/4 mile.

LIke i said, work on your driving, shifting, launching, all that good stuff. Wanna lose some weight? Take out your spare tire - it's way quicker than taking out the entire AC system.

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"I gained .3 hp Y0!"
"Look, my **** is Custom - No AC!"
"Man, my lude doesn't weigh 3,000lbs anymore! It weighs 2,962lbs!"
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