Hey, just replaced the head, timing belt ,etc and tried to fire it up tonight. Motor turns over, but doenst start. The tach doesn't jump when cranking...but I have spark. I hear the fuel pump come on and I also hear the main relay click off after approx 3 seconds. Any ideas?

Thanks
Mike

 

Since you just replaced those parts, I would make sure the timing marks all line up first. Next, since you have spark, Spray some choke cleaner into the intake and see if it will fire. If it does, your not getting fuel. Are the plugs wet when you pull them? Check for pressure at the fuel rail. I hate to ask but do you have plenty of gas in the tank? (Slingblade ) How old is the gas and how long has it been sitting?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MikeMarkota &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey, just replaced the head, timing belt ,etc and tried to fire it up tonight. Motor turns over, but doenst start. The tach doesn't jump when cranking...but I have spark. I hear the fuel pump come on and I also hear the main relay click off after approx 3 seconds. Any ideas?

Thanks
Mike</TD></TR></TABLE>

it is really irritating when people start a post, HEY I DID THIS, HEY I DID THAT NOW IT WON'T START...then on top of that they do not say wether it is 2 DOOR MAC DIESEL TRUCK OR A 1976 ACCORD........
Mike it is kind of hard to give you proper answers till you tell us a bit more about your car

 

noobie...My apologies...just figured the principles are the same for most accords here

anyway, 92 DX 5pd. 2.2L

I'll check the timing (when crank is at TDC cam must have "UP" on the cam facing up and the 2 notches horisontal with the block?) I'll see if I'm getting fuel at the rail..

Thanks
Mike

 

mike my man,, we get questions asked here from 1976 to new accords carburated and injected, that's why it is good to always specify , you will get a faster response in most cases ,,,Anyway,, you are correct on the timing alignment make sure you are at top dead center # 1 ,.. also chk the ground wire at thermostat housing make sure it is tight

 

alright, I've got fuel at the rail (loosened the 17mm bolt on the fitting and got plenty of gas coming out + spark plugs got fuel on em) I don't have the two horizontal lines on my cam pulley (replaced my cracked cam pulley with one from a 93 prelude f22) but when the crank notch is at 12, piston #1 is at TDC...and the notch on the cam is saying "UP" at the 12 o clock postion as well. Will check the ground..

Thanks for the help
mike

 

yeah check the ground..we got pwned once..and drive us nuts!

 

i cant find a ground wire going any where near the t-stat housing... There is one ground that goes from the driver side of the chasis that goes to the valve cover, correct? Mine isn't reaching...only thing I can think of not connected..

thanks
mike

 

ground going from strut tower is now connected to the motor mount bracket...can't find ANYTHING else disconnected.

Starterfluid doesnt start it...could the timing being off one or 2 teeth do this? I'd figure it'd run like **** like that..but everythins is lined up

 

What method did you use to check for spark?

 

timng gun attached to ignition wire
removing plug, holding ignition wire with spark plug IN and having some crank it
screw driver in the igntion wire.

all 3 methods resulted in spark...

 

You could check your timing with the light just cranking it over and rule out being off a tooth.

 

did you align the crank pully to TDC AND the cam? I see that you aligned the cam with the UP mark but did you align the crank before you slip on the timing belt? If anything you need to post what you did step by step in detail and then you will probably get a fast answer

 

oh yeah, this happened to me before when I changed the head on my CRX. Might apply to you. One of the mistake I made is a hose that connected to the back of my intake manifold was disconnected. Second mistake is that you have to keep cranking because you drained the fuel... takes a while to get going

 

hey, yes crank was at TDC when I put the cam at TDC.

Hose is connected...

is my lack of tach movement idicative of any problem?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MikeMarkota &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but when the crank notch is at 12, piston #1 is at TDC...and the notch on the cam is saying "UP" at the 12 o clock postion as well. </TD></TR></TABLE>You know, the 92 has a single timing mark that is 180 degrees off and three little marks on the correct side of the crank for timing. When your marks line up, does the rotor point to the #1 position of the distributor. Just trying to make sure that you are not at TDC exhaust.

 

hey, brought the motor to TDC and cam @ UP

I have 3 dimples on the crank pulley...facing the exhaust side of the motor. Dimpes start at around 9 oclock and end ~11 o clock

edit: yes at TDC rotor points to #1.

The plastic cap under neath the acutal distrib. cap looks like it has a piece of it broken off near the top. would that cause any problems? My 2 spare dizzys also have that same problem.


Modified by MikeMarkota at 11:25 AM 1/28/2006

 

How did you determine TDC?

 

by using the the notch (dont know how else to describe it) on the crank..putting it @ 12 o clock while verifying the dowel I placed in #1 was at the top of its movement.

is there a mark on the flywheel I can verify with?

 

Yeah, thats the marks I was refering to earlier. With your dowel at the top of it's stroke, the 3 little marks should line up with your timing scale on the flywheel and the rotor should point to #1 on the dist.

 

timing scale on the flyhweel? do you mean the 3 dots on the flywheel when its @ TDC?

does it sound like my timing is on?

thank you!


edit: in the wiring underneath the dizzy, there is a part where it branches into 4 seperate connecers. One to the block, one to the housing on the upper rad. house, one to the stater, and a round small connecter with a red wire. Where that attaches to is broken...do you know what it is and what it does? could that be the source of my no start problem?



Modified by MikeMarkota at 11:52 AM 1/28/2006

 

AS you are facing the engine from the front, on the left side of the exhaust manifold and right over the starter, there is a rubber plug that you remove to set the timing with a light. Thats where the scale is that I'm talking about. There are lines on the flywheel that line up with the scale.

 

ah, alright. so set timing by loosening the top nut on the dizzy and adjust until its right? Which do I align with?

thanks
mike

 

alright, what a time for my timing gun to break.

I loosen the 3 nuts on the dizzy and adjusted it while another person cranked the car. Still same result.

I dont get why my tach isnt even jumping...

 

First of all, with the motor at what you believe to be TDC, are the triple marks in the middle of the scale?