Mugen Sway Bars
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Re: (Tyson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">mugen doesnt make anything for EF's anymore, as far as i know.
i bought mine used in very good condition. so i consider myself lucky.</TD></TR></TABLE>
except rear bushings
i bought mine used in very good condition. so i consider myself lucky.</TD></TR></TABLE>
except rear bushings
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Cool, was just reading about that grey mugen ef6 somewhere and it said the owner got mugen sways from king motorsports or somewhere.
I ask anyway but seems ill be outta luck.
What would the next best option be.
Its for my EF7 so i suppose what is the best for your Si.
Progress
ST
Eibach
Whiteline - Australian, never heard of them on here
I ask anyway but seems ill be outta luck.
What would the next best option be.
Its for my EF7 so i suppose what is the best for your Si.
Progress
ST
Eibach
Whiteline - Australian, never heard of them on here
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Forgot to add, mugen do make there pro2 kit.
Hugely expensive though,
A fellow over in scotland needed a rear bumper as someone hit him in the rear. He demanded a genuine replacement seeing as the other party were paying. He got a japanese letter together etc and they replied saying that the had one in stock and if need be more could be made from their mould but it would take longer.
Dunno??
Hugely expensive though,
A fellow over in scotland needed a rear bumper as someone hit him in the rear. He demanded a genuine replacement seeing as the other party were paying. He got a japanese letter together etc and they replied saying that the had one in stock and if need be more could be made from their mould but it would take longer.
Dunno??
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i dont like progress' rear bar. i dont think the geometry works very well, and it attaches to the subframe, which is not going to be good on the non reinforced subframe on our EF.
i think ST bar is good. they have their own hardware, so its good for those chassis that dont already have a rear swaybar, basically any non-Si.
neuspeed has a swaybar set available and they are made to fit directly into the stock brackets as well. its a bit pricey tho.
intrax is the same i believe.
same thing with eibach too? i think.
as for whiteline, i know of their products. they seem to rely heavily on swaybars when tuning. some ppl prefer higher spring rates instead.
i think ST bar is good. they have their own hardware, so its good for those chassis that dont already have a rear swaybar, basically any non-Si.
neuspeed has a swaybar set available and they are made to fit directly into the stock brackets as well. its a bit pricey tho.
intrax is the same i believe.
same thing with eibach too? i think.
as for whiteline, i know of their products. they seem to rely heavily on swaybars when tuning. some ppl prefer higher spring rates instead.
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Re: (Cyclonium)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cyclonium »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> He got a japanese letter together etc and they replied saying that the had one in stock and if need be more could be made from their mould but it would take longer.
Dunno??</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats interesting....
Dunno??</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats interesting....
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Ya neuspeed seem very pricey, like the direct fit thing though.
Eibach was my preferred one but Rob at NoLimit told me that they were discontinued, so that put an end to that.
Whitline have got ok review this side of the water from lads using them on their rexs.
Never heard about intrax. ST ive read alot about but i would really like a more direct fit. Just a thing I have.
Better make a decision soon though, lol
EDIT: Read the second post there. Yes it is but think they were like £1500 stg per bumper.
It was CRX-UK on http://www.hondacrx.co.uk/forum
It was from M-TEC who are now Mugen afaik
Eibach was my preferred one but Rob at NoLimit told me that they were discontinued, so that put an end to that.
Whitline have got ok review this side of the water from lads using them on their rexs.
Never heard about intrax. ST ive read alot about but i would really like a more direct fit. Just a thing I have.
Better make a decision soon though, lol
EDIT: Read the second post there. Yes it is but think they were like £1500 stg per bumper.
It was CRX-UK on http://www.hondacrx.co.uk/forum
It was from M-TEC who are now Mugen afaik
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funny you mention crx-uk. they havent approved my forum registration yet... might have something to do with calling the site owner an ***....
i actually do have a technical quesiton. perhaps i can ask you and its about swaybars in fact.
you know the CRX 1.6-VT have different front swaybars right? so is there any aftermarket swaybar available for it? also, do you know what the stock swaybar size is?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1496911
M-Tec is just the renamed company in order to clear the corporation from its past tax evasion. too bad. at least they can keep the mugen trademark, just not the company name.
i actually do have a technical quesiton. perhaps i can ask you and its about swaybars in fact.
you know the CRX 1.6-VT have different front swaybars right? so is there any aftermarket swaybar available for it? also, do you know what the stock swaybar size is?
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1496911
M-Tec is just the renamed company in order to clear the corporation from its past tax evasion. too bad. at least they can keep the mugen trademark, just not the company name.
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LOL, where was that on norcal.org, stolled onto there one day as i do every now an then and got a shock, lol. It is the owner, CRX-UK who got the bumper.
Afaik there are some companies making them.
Ive seen some mugen and cusco ones on sir's and i know eibach make/made some, dont know about whiteline but i know some have been made fit on the rear.
Think VT is 18 fornt and 15 rear. Stand corrected though
Afaik there are some companies making them.
Ive seen some mugen and cusco ones on sir's and i know eibach make/made some, dont know about whiteline but i know some have been made fit on the rear.
Think VT is 18 fornt and 15 rear. Stand corrected though
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ha yeah. i knew he was joking, but i know loaded sarcasm when i see it, and i didnt care for it. especially after he was denying mea culpa.
you know what swaybar im talking about right? the different endlinks on the front swaybar?
18/15 is just like normal tho... hmm... whyd they even bother with a different setup if its not different rate?
you know what swaybar im talking about right? the different endlinks on the front swaybar?
18/15 is just like normal tho... hmm... whyd they even bother with a different setup if its not different rate?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont like progress' rear bar. i dont think the geometry works very well, and it attaches to the subframe, which is not going to be good on the non reinforced subframe on our EF.
i think ST bar is good. they have their own hardware, so its good for those chassis that dont already have a rear swaybar, basically any non-Si.
neuspeed has a swaybar set available and they are made to fit directly into the stock brackets as well. its a bit pricey tho.
intrax is the same i believe.
same thing with eibach too? i think.
as for whiteline, i know of their products. they seem to rely heavily on swaybars when tuning. some ppl prefer higher spring rates instead. </TD></TR></TABLE>
as to design efficiency i'm not sure i'm ready to comment since this is more of a point and shoot reply, but the shorter arms seems like a stiffer bar to me in an apples to apples comparison.
i can comment on longevity, as i had that bar on my crx for 9 years, with various suspension setups (none stock, but everything from progress springs to 600lb gc's). no tearout, cracks, or any other issues, other than mounting to the shock if you have funny shock forks (advance design).
seat of the pants reaction- rotated well. also reflected in the times i was turning in autox that something was working.
now that that bar is gone (stolen) i'm shopping for a new one.
i thought about the st, but it is heavy as fawk.
the progress competition bar looks ok, and a few well known racers (roadracejunkie on here for one) have recommended it.
i've been looking at the tanabe bar- sounds nice. hollow and chromoly= stiff and light.
i'd love to try an asr setup with a big hollow bar, but it seems the ef is getting snubbed for the moment by charleston.
i think ST bar is good. they have their own hardware, so its good for those chassis that dont already have a rear swaybar, basically any non-Si.
neuspeed has a swaybar set available and they are made to fit directly into the stock brackets as well. its a bit pricey tho.
intrax is the same i believe.
same thing with eibach too? i think.
as for whiteline, i know of their products. they seem to rely heavily on swaybars when tuning. some ppl prefer higher spring rates instead. </TD></TR></TABLE>
as to design efficiency i'm not sure i'm ready to comment since this is more of a point and shoot reply, but the shorter arms seems like a stiffer bar to me in an apples to apples comparison.
i can comment on longevity, as i had that bar on my crx for 9 years, with various suspension setups (none stock, but everything from progress springs to 600lb gc's). no tearout, cracks, or any other issues, other than mounting to the shock if you have funny shock forks (advance design).
seat of the pants reaction- rotated well. also reflected in the times i was turning in autox that something was working.
now that that bar is gone (stolen) i'm shopping for a new one.
i thought about the st, but it is heavy as fawk.
the progress competition bar looks ok, and a few well known racers (roadracejunkie on here for one) have recommended it.
i've been looking at the tanabe bar- sounds nice. hollow and chromoly= stiff and light.
i'd love to try an asr setup with a big hollow bar, but it seems the ef is getting snubbed for the moment by charleston.
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Ya the whole sir/vt front suspension setup is different though.
LCA, Knuckles, Front crossmember. When doing say the ES bushes, most of the front bushes are from a DA Teg afaik.
TBH I dont know why they have that weird setup, must be something though
LCA, Knuckles, Front crossmember. When doing say the ES bushes, most of the front bushes are from a DA Teg afaik.
TBH I dont know why they have that weird setup, must be something though
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tanabe makes a swaybar set for crx?
what i dont like about it is where the bends are. also, shorter arms means more bindage than rotational force, which is what a swaybar should only be.
what i dont like about it is where the bends are. also, shorter arms means more bindage than rotational force, which is what a swaybar should only be.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cyclonium »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When doing say the ES bushes, most of the front bushes are from a DA Teg afaik.
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hmm interesting.
see, this is crap i wanna find out. lol. go poke crx-uk and tell him to approve my registration.
btw, there was a set of real mugen front and rear bumpers for an 88 on ebay like a few weeks ago....
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hmm interesting.
see, this is crap i wanna find out. lol. go poke crx-uk and tell him to approve my registration.
btw, there was a set of real mugen front and rear bumpers for an 88 on ebay like a few weeks ago....
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Its stiffer than our 16v which is 14mm i think.
I really dunno,havent got a vt anymore which i could put the vernier on.
Sure pm me any info you find on them and ill have a read, would also like to know.
PM me on CRXUK as i cant on here im still a newbie, how long do i have to wait for thatto go away??
I really dunno,havent got a vt anymore which i could put the vernier on.
Sure pm me any info you find on them and ill have a read, would also like to know.
PM me on CRXUK as i cant on here im still a newbie, how long do i have to wait for thatto go away??
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tanabe makes a swaybar set for crx?
what i dont like about it is where the bends are. also, shorter arms means more bindage than rotational force, which is what a swaybar should only be.</TD></TR></TABLE>
theory is sound, but i didn't experience binding (afaik) and shorter also means lighter.
have you heard people complain about binding? i'm not defending it, just wondering where you're coming from.
tanabe bar- i haven't seen an application specific picture - just specs.
http://www.mach1car.com/Produc...26R-1
from one of my emails:
Dear buyer,
The Tanabe Sway bar will mount the same way as the OEM bar and in the stock holes on the control arm. The weights on our website are estimations and are by no means exact. We can offer a Honda-Tech discount if you provide us with the part number to the bar you are looking to purchase and your shipping address. Thanks and we look forward to doing business with you! If you have any other questions or need anything else don't hesitate to let us know. Thanks for the inquiry and we look forward to hearing from you,
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(440) 460-5450
inquiries@mach1car.com
http://www.mach1car.com
what i dont like about it is where the bends are. also, shorter arms means more bindage than rotational force, which is what a swaybar should only be.</TD></TR></TABLE>
theory is sound, but i didn't experience binding (afaik) and shorter also means lighter.
have you heard people complain about binding? i'm not defending it, just wondering where you're coming from.
tanabe bar- i haven't seen an application specific picture - just specs.
http://www.mach1car.com/Produc...26R-1
from one of my emails:
Dear buyer,
The Tanabe Sway bar will mount the same way as the OEM bar and in the stock holes on the control arm. The weights on our website are estimations and are by no means exact. We can offer a Honda-Tech discount if you provide us with the part number to the bar you are looking to purchase and your shipping address. Thanks and we look forward to doing business with you! If you have any other questions or need anything else don't hesitate to let us know. Thanks for the inquiry and we look forward to hearing from you,
Mach 1 Sales Staff
Mach 1 Car Accessories
5161 Mayfield Rd Suite #10
Lyndhurst, OH 44124
(440) 460-5450
inquiries@mach1car.com
http://www.mach1car.com
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Re: (Tyson)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cool. tanabe ones sounds good. id go with that. same to you cyclonium.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i'm planning on trying it- the only thing tha is a pain is not really being to compare it on paper to other bars (i don't know the inner diameter of the bar to figure out torsional stiffness). it'll all be seat o the pants.
i'm planning on trying it- the only thing tha is a pain is not really being to compare it on paper to other bars (i don't know the inner diameter of the bar to figure out torsional stiffness). it'll all be seat o the pants.