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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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I have a 94 Integra LS i was thinking of going B18C5 (Type R) i work next door to a performence shop they do all custom jobs guy told me to stick with my B18B the guy told me for $4,500 he would completly build my engine & said for another $4,000 a good turbo. They build all there own stuff piping intercooler everything. I don't know what to do the B18B Throws 140Hp Wheres the B18C5 throws 200Hp don't know what to do...
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 05:45 PM
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$4500 is ALOT for a non vtec build. And $4000 is alot for a turbo. Dont get bullshit by this guy anymore. take somewhere reputable. it can and will be done for much much less than what he quoted you.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000turbogsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$4500 is ALOT for a non vtec build. And $4000 is alot for a turbo. Dont get bullshit by this guy anymore. take somewhere reputable. it can and will be done for much much less than what he quoted you.</TD></TR></TABLE>

100% behind this guy
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 05:52 PM
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well thats kinda steep for a build i's say parts are about 2Gz for a REALLY good build with like crower rods and all that good stuff oversized pistons and sleeves if you do it yourself and a peak boost turbo kit is only like 3500. but it really depends what you want to do... dishing out dough for a type R motor 1-3G'z? i duno and only getting 195hp is kinda lame you could just do a ls vtec turbo and get pretty good #s
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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LS/VTEC is always nice, but you can never go wrong with turbo... and 4500 for a rebuild and 4000 for turbo ... WOW... I'm totally behind what 2000turbogsr said... total bullshit...
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 08:55 PM
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That guy is out to make a not so honest buck. You could get a lot more for your money by doing the proper research on what you would like. $4K can get you a JDM ITR motor...and maybe another $600 to put it in (doing it yourself). I've driven a few JDM ITR powered vehicles, and let me tell you, they are very quick. I watched my friend race an LS turbo hatch, and pull a car length on him. This was before he got his DTR header and tuning done. I don't like boost so much, but a properly built setup can be a formidable weapon. I have a buddy with a built B18B turbo setup, and his ride is very quick as well. I would take the ITR powered EK (now fully built GSR powered and for sale in my sig) over the turbo hatch. It's a bit more friendly to drive daily, and you don't have to wait for the turbo to spool up.

It all boils down to you deciding what your power goals are and where you want to ultimately go with the car. Driving a highly modified car everyday is going to lead to repairs eventually. If you get wild with it, get another daily.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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with 4 g's you can have built ls/vtec with turbo...that guy is plain stupid...hes trying to hussle you bro...
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:37 PM
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all you people arent keeping in mind LABOR COSTS... also like he said the guy does custom work.. maybe the guy has some crazy custom cams or internals you never know. if you want something done worry free its ok to pay a little more for it. if his work is TOP NOTCH, Tell him to turbo you for 3500. thats including warranty and if he does clean work
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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sounds about right to me.

Like stated above LABOR COSTS.

If built yourself you could save 1000 to 1500 dollars.


Now for the 4000 turbo system that sounds a little steep. But if it is all custom work, then maybe.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:48 PM
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$4k for a turbo? That is too much.
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Old Jan 23, 2006 | 09:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by deck &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">$4k for a turbo? That is too much. </TD></TR></TABLE>

AHHHH I just modified my post and then clicked and saw your post.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:16 AM
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go with the type r. then you can turbo it for a decent amount of hp.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 12:19 AM
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ow yeah......dont let anyone tell you that c5 cant be boosted
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 06:12 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_dc_fan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ow yeah......dont let anyone tell you that c5 cant be boosted</TD></TR></TABLE>

The C5 or B18C can be boosted with proper tuning. However, eventually the motor is going to need to be built. Same for any motor really, but the 10+:1 compression isn't friendly for boost. The cylinder pressures start to get pretty high...eventually you'll melt something or worse...put a piston through the block...maybe rattle a sleeve loose. Best to build a higher compression motor before you boost it...lower the CR to keep your risks to a minimum. It's insurance for a reliable setup that will keep your boost passion happy.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 06:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HONDA_TYPE_R &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The C5 or B18C can be boosted with proper tuning. However, eventually the motor is going to need to be built. Same for any motor really, but the 10+:1 compression isn't friendly for boost. The cylinder pressures start to get pretty high...eventually you'll melt something or worse...put a piston through the block...maybe rattle a sleeve loose. Best to build a higher compression motor before you boost it...lower the CR to keep your risks to a minimum. It's insurance for a reliable setup that will keep your boost passion happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

with proper tuning you should be fine. i have heard of people that have been running strong for 2+ years with GSR engines WITH proper tuning.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 07:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LSracing94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

with proper tuning you should be fine. i have heard of people that have been running strong for 2+ years with GSR engines WITH proper tuning. </TD></TR></TABLE>

after the 2 years ?
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 08:55 AM
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man for 8.5 grand you could have one of the beastliest motors ever. Do some research on some other shops because this guy seems like he is trying to make a steal at you
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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boooooooo that guy, 8k? you could get a car for that much sir.
id say to hell with the c5, boost the ls motor
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98GSRrdr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

after the 2 years ?</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do you mean after the 2 years?? i dont really know anyone from first hand experience who has had a turbo gsr for over 2 years solid, but i am sure it would continue running strong
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kyo Kusanagi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

100% behind this guy</TD></TR></TABLE>
100 % behind the guy that is 100% behind the guy who sd that.. lol
but any who.. man.. thats 8400 gs in total for that.. u might as well buy the type-r engine..
http://www.jazzproparts.com/Pr...98-00
get amazing hp... and still have room to make it more powerfull..
or like i was told to build my own gsr block..
dude with all tha money u can defenetly get a TYPE-R ENGINE AND SOUL IN UR BABY.. feel me.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 11:53 AM
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yes, 8500 is too much.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 08:26 PM
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or if you have that kind of $$$ to toss around - buy a K20A and have some serious fun.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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OMFG! I could build a Monster Boosted LS motor for about $3500 with all new parts and labor!! and that's not just the block either...full head work IM,TB, FR, FPR etc. you just have to shop around. and for $4000, you could get a FullRace kit which is one of the best out there. don't let someone make you a turbo manifold without the proper testing and tunning of the runners. sure it'll work and look nice, but will probably perform shitty.
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Old Jan 24, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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The K series swap is probably a better decision to go with if your paying that much money.
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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how about you just buy the full swap for 4500 dollars and get the greddy turbo for 2500... that way your **** is all legit and a lot younger than buidling your current ls for 4 grand.... oh yeah and tell that mechanic that crack kills
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