Ok, well the time has come to finally upgrade my Teg. Just a breif history, I have a 95 ls auto 4 door (DB8) that was givin to me for free. It has 192,xxx mile and suprisingly runs decent still, no smoke or leaks. Unbelievable. Well, like i said, it's upgrade time. Would like to get this project running by spring and then painted before the summer. Here is what I have planned, any opinions and suggestions welcomed:


ls/vtec
golden eagle ls/vtec conversion kit
bore & hone .40 over
stock crank micropolished & maybe knife edged
eagle rods
arias pistons flat head(good for n/a,turbo/nitrous) compression 10.4
new bearings
arp main & rod bolts
sleeve guard

4-2-1 header
custom piping
magna flow exhaust

GSR head pretty much stock for now (cams later)
adjustable cam gears
Intake (not sure what yet)

hondata s100 for tuning

gsr lsd tranny

tein coilovers
type r front & rear sway

Goal is for a streetable ride with a mild turbo 6-8 months later. Trying for around 250-270 whp (maybe more) of course with the turbo. Not to sure what it will make with out it. Guesses anyone?

Once the drivetrain is complete, then I will work on cosmetics, paint, jdm type r front conversion and interior.

 

sounds solid..

get a cheap header and wait on the exhaust since you want to turbo later...youll more than likely be getting a custom 2.5"-3" exhaust for the turbo setup

id advise against knife edging the crank..

and you can make a lot more than 300whp w/ forged rods and pistons

 

you own a DB7

 

how are you gonna smog this beast? just wondering 'cause i planning to go lsvtec too but cali smog check is no joke. . .

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by effects66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok, well the time has come to finally upgrade my Teg. Just a breif history, I have a 95 ls auto 4 door (DB8) that was givin to me for free. It has 192,xxx mile and suprisingly runs decent still, no smoke or leaks. Unbelievable. Well, like i said, it's upgrade time. Would like to get this project running by spring and then painted before the summer. Here is what I have planned, any opinions and suggestions welcomed:


ls/vtec
golden eagle ls/vtec conversion kit
bore & hone .40 over
stock crank micropolished & maybe knife edged
eagle rods
arias pistons flat head(good for n/a,turbo/nitrous) compression 10.4
new bearings
arp main & rod bolts
sleeve guard

4-2-1 header
custom piping
magna flow exhaust

GSR head pretty much stock for now (cams later)
adjustable cam gears
Intake (not sure what yet)

hondata s100 for tuning

gsr lsd tranny

tein coilovers
type r front & rear sway

Goal is for a streetable ride with a mild turbo 6-8 months later. Trying for around 250-270 whp (maybe more) of course with the turbo. Not to sure what it will make with out it. Guesses anyone?

Once the drivetrain is complete, then I will work on cosmetics, paint, jdm type r front conversion and interior.</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont waste your money on cam gears. its a VERY VERY fine tuning, dynotuning tool.. which you will not be doing yet, so spend the money on something worthwhile at this point in time.

bore .40 over? on a 1.8 honda?? didnt even know that was possible while maintaining reliability at all. hope youre sleeving it if you can pull that one off.

i like the c/r youre going with for turbo, mild.. but not bitchy 8.5:1 like everyone preaches lower compression for turbo.

tune well, build well.. and youll have a decent setup.. what kind of turbo and setup are you planning to run in the future. remember.. turbo is going to require maintenance no matter what, so just be prepared for that. good luck

 

I have a friend that knows someone that can smog it. Otherwise, I just smoged the car this month so I am good for 2 years. I did talk to the guy smogging it and the rules state, that if it was available in the car then you can put it in. Even if you are swapping out and mix matching. It has to been available for that car. Any other option parts you need the cert # sticker (should come with the product if you are buying smog legal stuff) and show that to the smog guy.

 

Thanks for the info.

The bore is in mm not inches. Standard is 81.00mm and just boring it to 81.50mm. Anything past this (which would start at 83.00) you have to sleeve the block.

 

ditch the block gaurd. ive read they create hot spots, so you may want to avoid this.

im doing LSvtec too, so congrats.

 

I haven't heard that yet. good to know. I will look into a bit further.

 

Damm u must be rich or what j/k..hahaha....first of all hold back on the header since u r going turbocharging pretty soon....compression is too high for turbocharging....unless u plan to use race gas full time or maybe retard alot of degrees...hey(safe side).....be sure not to use block guard...better of to sleeve.......(addiction to BOOST) hahaha....tuning a fresh turbocharge car will be a bitch but if done right......(WHOA)....yea.....besides all everything sounds good........also....u planning on hardcore racing.....and long run...i prefer an LS tranny for its taller gear...u noe....!!!!! HOPE it works out..

 

compression is not too high for boost. its all in tuning. its all in tuning. its all in tuning. its all in tuning. its all in tuning. its all in tuning. its all in tuning. its all in tuning.

 

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i like the c/r youre going with for turbo, mild.. but not bitchy 8.5:1 like everyone preaches lower compression for turbo.

tune well, build well.. and youll have a decent setup.. what kind of turbo and setup are you planning to run in the future. remember.. turbo is going to require maintenance no matter what, so just be prepared for that. good luck</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree... ur not boosting too high for what ur goals are. don't listen to the other guys stating ur comp is gonna be too high. you did mention that you were gonna run a mild boost application though, something in the lines of a greddy would be perfect, but ur gonna be under ur 250-270whp mark. remember, lower comp lets you boost higher. and higher boost means more heat. i see that u've done your research. the GSR trannys gonna be quaiffe LSD equipped right. that's a good choice since they have the lifetime warranty and a good upgrade from the LS trans.

here are some tips that i'll leave you with:

-get GSR or ITR water/oil pumps
-make sure your pistons are forged. not necessary, but highly recommened.
-ITR main/rod bearings/ARP lock bolts.
-you don't need Eagle rods... i'm running stock LS rods.
-get ur crank balanced.
-get a good ECU.... i'm running a chipped p28 socketed Hondata s200
-don't forget to modify your harness.

btw. i'm running strong after 1 year of having LsVtec and i rev up to 8100 almost 3 times a day, and i just came back from Vegas.

and like everyone said... you got a DB7... 4DR non VTEC.
good luck!!!

 

Thanks again for the input.

As for the compression, I will be driving about 6 or so months before I put a turbo in it. And yes, it is going to be a mild boost (7-8) I don't see the need to go higher for what I am trying to acheive. I know and hear of people that are turboing there GSR's and Type R's and it is all good. I am not going to be racing it. It is going to be a street car but with just enough kick to keep up with people maybe even surprise a few with a 4dr. It is really about tuning, knowing your car and the limits.

I did forget that I will be putting in the GSR water/oil pumps and the Arias pistons are forged.

And to the guy that said I must be rich or something, no I am not, I am doing most of the work myself with the exception of the machine work. All in all, it will be a little cheaper than getting a total swap and I get the satisfaction of doing it my way and what I want.

Yes I was wrong with the DB8 statement....DB7

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by finest_GSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damm u must be rich or what j/k..hahaha....first of all hold back on the header since u r going turbocharging pretty soon....compression is too high for turbocharging....unless u plan to use race gas full time or maybe retard alot of degrees...hey(safe side).....be sure not to use block guard...better of to sleeve.......(addiction to BOOST) hahaha....tuning a fresh turbocharge car will be a bitch but if done right......(WHOA)....yea.....besides all everything sounds good........also....u planning on hardcore racing.....and long run...i prefer an LS tranny for its taller gear...u noe....!!!!! HOPE it works out..</TD></TR></TABLE>

dont listen to ONE WORD this person is saying.. taller gears are NOT better for boost. i dont care what arguement anyone has to say about it. short gearing yeilds going through boost faster, as well as not falling out of boost during the shift. your compression is absolutely fine for boost, especially given a good tune. i guess people dont keep stock gsr compression and boost those, right? yeah. they do and compression for stock gsr would be 10.6:1. the compression is perfect.. given a good tune, the right size turbo, a gsr tranny (which is perfect IMO).. you could yeild some pretty decent numbers. and this hardcore racing this idiot is talking about.. i didnt know that was even possible to "hardcore race" with a street driven car.. hes not in import pro stock bud. do yourself a favor.. keep your setup.. dont waste money on all motor parts and small diameter exhausts right now.. save your money and be happier in the end like i always say. keep gsr tranny, keep compression and build a nice kit.

 

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dont listen to ONE WORD this person is saying.. taller gears are NOT better for boost. i dont care what arguement anyone has to say about it. short gearing yeilds going through boost faster, as well as not falling out of boost during the shift. your compression is absolutely fine for boost, especially given a good tune. i guess people dont keep stock gsr compression and boost those, right? yeah. they do and compression for stock gsr would be 10.6:1. the compression is perfect.. given a good tune, the right size turbo, a gsr tranny (which is perfect IMO).. you could yeild some pretty decent numbers. and this hardcore racing this idiot is talking about.. i didnt know that was even possible to "hardcore race" with a street driven car.. hes not in import pro stock bud. do yourself a favor.. keep your setup.. dont waste money on all motor parts and small diameter exhausts right now.. save your money and be happier in the end like i always say. keep gsr tranny, keep compression and build a nice kit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

ditto.... also effects, i see your from simi valley.... i live in oxnard now and we have weekly meets at the frys here. check it out... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1386987